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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Far right abandoning Trump-

    "Undeniably he is in contradiction with the commitments he had made," Le Pen said in an interview with France Info radio. "I am coherent, I don't change my mind in a few days. He had said he would not be the policeman of the world, that he would be the president of the United States and would not be the policeman of the world, but it seems today that he has changed his mind."
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Far right abandoning Trump-

    "Undeniably he is in contradiction with the commitments he had made," Le Pen said in an interview with France Info radio. "I am coherent, I don't change my mind in a few days. He had said he would not be the policeman of the world, that he would be the president of the United States and would not be the policeman of the world, but it seems today that he has changed his mind."

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  • benjs
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    I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

    On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

    On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

    I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

    I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

    I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

    Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?
    1. Americans generally don't trust Russia, due to knowledge of past offences and spying/influencing tactics
    2. Donald Trump reached out to Russia for spying assistance in public calls to action
    3. Intelligence agencies warned of the possibility of Russian propaganda

    So based on this, apologies to those I'll offend again, but do you blame Russia for attempting to indirectly influence an easily influenced populace? Or, alternatively, do you blame an entire populace who claim to be superior for so many reasons, but can't seem to stitch together a reasonable logic-based decision, or avoid making one based on unfounded hatred or analysis defining Clinton as unfit without doing the same due diligence on Trump?
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  • benjs said:

    I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

    On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

    On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

    I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

    I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

    I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

    Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?
    1. Americans generally don't trust Russia, due to knowledge of past offences and spying/influencing tactics
    2. Donald Trump reached out to Russia for spying assistance in public calls to action
    3. Intelligence agencies warned of the possibility of Russian propaganda

    So based on this, apologies to those I'll offend again, but do you blame Russia for attempting to indirectly influence an easily influenced populace? Or, alternatively, do you blame an entire populace who claim to be superior for so many reasons, but can't seem to stitch together a reasonable logic-based decision, or avoid making one based on unfounded hatred or analysis defining Clinton as unfit without doing the same due diligence on Trump?
    The people that would take offence can't comprehend this post, Benjs.

    In order for them to understand how they were manipulated... you'd have to create some sort of picture that, after viewing, they could colour with crayons.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    benjs said:

    I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

    On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

    On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

    I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

    I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

    I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

    Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?
    1. Americans generally don't trust Russia, due to knowledge of past offences and spying/influencing tactics
    2. Donald Trump reached out to Russia for spying assistance in public calls to action
    3. Intelligence agencies warned of the possibility of Russian propaganda

    So based on this, apologies to those I'll offend again, but do you blame Russia for attempting to indirectly influence an easily influenced populace? Or, alternatively, do you blame an entire populace who claim to be superior for so many reasons, but can't seem to stitch together a reasonable logic-based decision, or avoid making one based on unfounded hatred or analysis defining Clinton as unfit without doing the same due diligence on Trump?
    I don't blame Russia. The blame is definitely on ignorant fools but those fools can't be convinced that they are fools.
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  • rgambs
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    benjs said:

    I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

    On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

    On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

    I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

    I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

    I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

    Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?
    1. Americans generally don't trust Russia, due to knowledge of past offences and spying/influencing tactics
    2. Donald Trump reached out to Russia for spying assistance in public calls to action
    3. Intelligence agencies warned of the possibility of Russian propaganda

    So based on this, apologies to those I'll offend again, but do you blame Russia for attempting to indirectly influence an easily influenced populace? Or, alternatively, do you blame an entire populace who claim to be superior for so many reasons, but can't seem to stitch together a reasonable logic-based decision, or avoid making one based on unfounded hatred or analysis defining Clinton as unfit without doing the same due diligence on Trump?
    The people that would take offence can't comprehend this post, Benjs.

    In order for them to understand how they were manipulated... you'd have to create some sort of picture that, after viewing, they could colour with crayons.
    I dunno, Thirty, sounds suspiciously similar to a graph, so it would probably be dismissed on sight.
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  • rgambs said:

    benjs said:

    I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

    On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

    On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

    I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

    I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

    I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

    Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?
    1. Americans generally don't trust Russia, due to knowledge of past offences and spying/influencing tactics
    2. Donald Trump reached out to Russia for spying assistance in public calls to action
    3. Intelligence agencies warned of the possibility of Russian propaganda

    So based on this, apologies to those I'll offend again, but do you blame Russia for attempting to indirectly influence an easily influenced populace? Or, alternatively, do you blame an entire populace who claim to be superior for so many reasons, but can't seem to stitch together a reasonable logic-based decision, or avoid making one based on unfounded hatred or analysis defining Clinton as unfit without doing the same due diligence on Trump?
    The people that would take offence can't comprehend this post, Benjs.

    In order for them to understand how they were manipulated... you'd have to create some sort of picture that, after viewing, they could colour with crayons.
    I dunno, Thirty, sounds suspiciously similar to a graph, so it would probably be dismissed on sight.
    Lol

    We should start a thread similar to the Ames Mystery thread: "Post your coloured Trump comprehension cartoons here thread"

    At least then we could begin to say nice things to guys we've been scrapping with.

    "PJFan... great job almost staying within the lines!"

    "GF... are you sure you didn't want to use any colours? A little more effort and this could be really good!"

    "Professor... I love your signature! It shows great pride and you know what... you should be proud!"

    Hopefully... the 10C could give us stickers and we could place these on the submissions for our peers to make them feel awesome.
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  • rgambs
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/field-guide-sarcastic-masters
    "Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm."
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I enjoy sarcasm.
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  • PJPOWER said:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/field-guide-sarcastic-masters
    "Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm."

    Lol

    A 'veil' of sarcasm is a little different than a 'sprinkling' of sarcasm here and there.

    And hey... you don't have time to be researching psychology stuff. You haven't completed your picture yet.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    And there are adult colouring books out there.

    I don't mean "adult" colouring books, though there are probably those, too.
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  • I enjoy sarcasm.

    Me too.

    Very underrated for making points. The typical response to effective sarcasm is to attack sarcasm itself- as if somehow... that makes the point being made null and void.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2017

    PJPOWER said:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/field-guide-sarcastic-masters
    "Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm."

    Lol

    A 'veil' of sarcasm is a little different than a 'sprinkling' of sarcasm here and there.

    And hey... you don't have time to be researching psychology stuff. You haven't completed your picture yet.
    I'm sensing a lot of inadequacy and denial around here. Also linked to bullying type of behavior. Do you enjoy bullying people?
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • PJPOWER
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    If you are having trouble detecting sarcasm, you may be interested in this excerpt from the same article posted above.
    "Some highly intelligent people who have autism or Asperger's syndrome, for example, may fail to understand jokes and sarcasm. But her research has shown that people who are particularly good at detecting sarcasm also tend to be better at identifying emotional facial expressions. They seem to understand social situations better overall, she says."

    So it seems to me the that the over usage of sarcasm implies inadequacies, and the inability to detect sarcasm relates to other mental problems.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:

    PJPOWER said:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/field-guide-sarcastic-masters
    "Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm."

    Lol

    A 'veil' of sarcasm is a little different than a 'sprinkling' of sarcasm here and there.

    And hey... you don't have time to be researching psychology stuff. You haven't completed your picture yet.
    I'm sensing a lot of inadequacy and denial around here. Also linked to bullying type of behavior. Do you enjoy bullying people?
    Says the guy who's "In Yo Face...."
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2017

    PJPOWER said:

    PJPOWER said:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/field-guide-sarcastic-masters
    "Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm."

    Lol

    A 'veil' of sarcasm is a little different than a 'sprinkling' of sarcasm here and there.

    And hey... you don't have time to be researching psychology stuff. You haven't completed your picture yet.
    I'm sensing a lot of inadequacy and denial around here. Also linked to bullying type of behavior. Do you enjoy bullying people?
    Says the guy who's "In Yo Face...."
    I fail to see your point other than an ill attempt at projecting.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,118
    PJPOWER said:

    If you are having trouble detecting sarcasm, you may be interested in this excerpt from the same article posted above.
    "Some highly intelligent people who have autism or Asperger's syndrome, for example, may fail to understand jokes and sarcasm. But her research has shown that people who are particularly good at detecting sarcasm also tend to be better at identifying emotional facial expressions. They seem to understand social situations better overall, she says."

    So it seems to me the that the over usage of sarcasm implies inadequacies, and the inability to detect sarcasm relates to other mental problems.
    So? Do I have mental problems or am I inadequate? Or maybe I just can't read?
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  • PJPOWER
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    PJPOWER said:

    If you are having trouble detecting sarcasm, you may be interested in this excerpt from the same article posted above.
    "Some highly intelligent people who have autism or Asperger's syndrome, for example, may fail to understand jokes and sarcasm. But her research has shown that people who are particularly good at detecting sarcasm also tend to be better at identifying emotional facial expressions. They seem to understand social situations better overall, she says."

    So it seems to me the that the over usage of sarcasm implies inadequacies, and the inability to detect sarcasm relates to other mental problems.
    So? Do I have mental problems or am I inadequate? Or maybe I just can't read?
    I'm not sure, I don't know you very well. Don't shoot the messenger...
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