Donald Trump

Gern Blansten said:

kenny olav said:

I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?

benjs said:

Gern Blansten said:

kenny olav said:

I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?

1. Americans generally don't trust Russia, due to knowledge of past offences and spying/influencing tactics
2. Donald Trump reached out to Russia for spying assistance in public calls to action
3. Intelligence agencies warned of the possibility of Russian propaganda

So based on this, apologies to those I'll offend again, but do you blame Russia for attempting to indirectly influence an easily influenced populace? Or, alternatively, do you blame an entire populace who claim to be superior for so many reasons, but can't seem to stitch together a reasonable logic-based decision, or avoid making one based on unfounded hatred or analysis defining Clinton as unfit without doing the same due diligence on Trump?

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

benjs said:

Gern Blansten said:

kenny olav said:

I haven't posted on here in awhile. I just want to say I can't decide if I can or if I can't believe that this guy is the President.

On the one hand, given the toxic level of discourse that has arisen over the last few decades, it makes sense that enough people would vote for him to give him an Electoral College victory.

On the other hand, this is a new low even for the country that put Dubya in charge. I mean, how do we go from Obama to Trump?

I honestly don't think America's reputation can ever recover from this. It doesn't matter that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million. It shouldn't have been that close. I was 100% for Bernie during the primaries, but I had no issue voting for Hillary Clinton in November. Because Donald Trump is a disgusting pig, a raging narcissist, a bigot, a warmongering lunatic and a pathological liar.

I could go on and on about the failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party... but they pale of comparison to that of Trump and the modern Republican Party. The claim that "Trump is anti-establishment" was not only plainly false, but also no excuse for maintaining the status quo with Clinton over a fear-mongering shit-for-brains asshole with no detectable soul.

I wouldn't be worried about Clinton starting a war with North Korea right now.

Clinton made mistakes but think back to the all out internet war that was going on against her. That was a calculated attack from Russia to assist Trump. The question is did Russia have dirt on Trump so they knew they could manipulate him if he was elected? Or did they think assisting Trump would expose how a democracy can be manipulated by bombarding the ignorant voting public with bullshit?

1. Americans generally don't trust Russia, due to knowledge of past offences and spying/influencing tactics
2. Donald Trump reached out to Russia for spying assistance in public calls to action
3. Intelligence agencies warned of the possibility of Russian propaganda

So based on this, apologies to those I'll offend again, but do you blame Russia for attempting to indirectly influence an easily influenced populace? Or, alternatively, do you blame an entire populace who claim to be superior for so many reasons, but can't seem to stitch together a reasonable logic-based decision, or avoid making one based on unfounded hatred or analysis defining Clinton as unfit without doing the same due diligence on Trump?

The people that would take offence can't comprehend this post, Benjs.

In order for them to understand how they were manipulated... you'd have to create some sort of picture that, after viewing, they could colour with crayons.

I dunno, Thirty, sounds suspiciously similar to a graph, so it would probably be dismissed on sight.

PJPOWER said:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/field-guide-sarcastic-masters
"Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm."

oftenreading said:

I enjoy sarcasm.

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJPOWER said:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/field-guide-sarcastic-masters
"Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm."

Lol

A 'veil' of sarcasm is a little different than a 'sprinkling' of sarcasm here and there.

And hey... you don't have time to be researching psychology stuff. You haven't completed your picture yet.

I'm sensing a lot of inadequacy and denial around here. Also linked to bullying type of behavior. Do you enjoy bullying people?

PJPOWER said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You are the company that you keep.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/14/world/europe/trump-tower-neighbor-europe-populists-orban-wilders-le-pen.html

Now, please, show me the sarcasm.

If you are having trouble detecting sarcasm, you may be interested in this excerpt from the same article posted above.
"Some highly intelligent people who have autism or Asperger's syndrome, for example, may fail to understand jokes and sarcasm. But her research has shown that people who are particularly good at detecting sarcasm also tend to be better at identifying emotional facial expressions. They seem to understand social situations better overall, she says."

So it seems to me the that the over usage of sarcasm implies inadequacies, and the inability to detect sarcasm relates to other mental problems.