Obamacare is a mess

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,570
    rssesq said:

    Go Beavers said:

    rssesq said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    rssesq said:

    rssesq said:

    have a "cadillac" plan with anthem bc/bs, before ACA $395, now $690
    Appreciate it bro.

    With anthem being the only one left in the market and predicting and 65% increase in the coming year, even us "well off" are gonna be priced out. I'm already payin an amount akin to a Lexus GS F lease so I can help subsidize the heath care of two 400 pounders who smoke 2 packs of 'Ports per day and whom eat 5 times a week at Mickey D;'s.

    no you aren't...
    I know but don't count my money socialist, lol.

    "the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of OTHER people's money."
    Ask the soviet union. Oh my bad, they don't exist anymore.

    Ask all the other countries with a single payer system.
    the doctors in those countries have a good standard of living, not an INCREDIBLE standard of living.

    You're shifty.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    u got me confused wit Blankfein and your Wall street brethren. ;)
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwHVLFF80ww
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Thought this was relevant / interesting


    Why aren't we more focused on the high costs of health care? We are not getting a great return on our investment here.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,570
    The increase is all because insurance companies can't can't compete across state lines. Haven't you heard?
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    it's cause our doctors hardly make any money at all, havnt ye heard.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rssesq said:

    it's cause our doctors hardly make any money at all, havnt ye heard.

    What are you getting at?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stop sweating me


  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    Every western country and every western country ranking better than US has tax funded healthcare in one way or another.

    But the land of the brave and the free and the weird prayers every day at school can't get to the conclusion that it's better than your shitty capitalist system.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    Just admit you got it all wrong and correct yourself.

    You're not the best country in the world. But try to better yourself. Like, in not leaving climate change agreements and not killing citizens who cant afford healthcare.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited March 2017
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Just admit you got it all wrong and correct yourself.

    You're not the best country in the world. But try to better yourself. Like, in not leaving climate change agreements and not killing citizens who cant afford healthcare.

    What time is it over there where you are?
    How much have you had?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Just admit you got it all wrong and correct yourself.

    You're not the best country in the world. But try to better yourself. Like, in not leaving climate change agreements and not killing citizens who cant afford healthcare.

    What time is it over there where you are?
    How much have you had?
    0236 am

    some nuts. What we over here at least call "chili nuts".

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Maybe worth a little time to read:

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/racket-of-rackets/
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    Just received a memo from out HR department regarding our benefits. To prevent costs from going even higher, we are getting reduced coverage.
    This is how it will change:
    Premiums up 20% (was going to be even higher until we lowered the coverage by the following)

    Dr. visit up 50%
    ER visit up 50%
    Medication copay up 33%
    Max out of pocket up 75%
    Annual Deductible up 300% Yes, three hundred!

    These increases were to keep our premiums from increasing even more than the 20%.
    O yeah, and we were just told that at this time no raises are being approved.

    Where do those people work who claim health benefits aren't skyrocketing?

    I was far better off before this mess took over.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,570
    Had that same presentation from HR in 1995.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mace1229 said:

    Just received a memo from out HR department regarding our benefits. To prevent costs from going even higher, we are getting reduced coverage.
    This is how it will change:
    Premiums up 20% (was going to be even higher until we lowered the coverage by the following)

    Dr. visit up 50%
    ER visit up 50%
    Medication copay up 33%
    Max out of pocket up 75%
    Annual Deductible up 300% Yes, three hundred!

    These increases were to keep our premiums from increasing even more than the 20%.
    O yeah, and we were just told that at this time no raises are being approved.

    Where do those people work who claim health benefits aren't skyrocketing?

    I was far better off before this mess took over.

    mine aren't, but I work in the insurance industry, so....
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    rssesq said:

    rssesq said:

    have a "cadillac" plan with anthem bc/bs, before ACA $395, now $690
    Appreciate it bro.

    With anthem being the only one left in the market and predicting and 65% increase in the coming year, even us "well off" are gonna be priced out. I'm already payin an amount akin to a Lexus GS F lease so I can help subsidize the heath care of two 400 pounders who smoke 2 packs of 'Ports per day and whom eat 5 times a week at Mickey D;'s.

  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    clusterfudge. enjoy everybody's mansions on your permanent vaca bro.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Just received a memo from out HR department regarding our benefits. To prevent costs from going even higher, we are getting reduced coverage.
    This is how it will change:
    Premiums up 20% (was going to be even higher until we lowered the coverage by the following)

    Dr. visit up 50%
    ER visit up 50%
    Medication copay up 33%
    Max out of pocket up 75%
    Annual Deductible up 300% Yes, three hundred!

    These increases were to keep our premiums from increasing even more than the 20%.
    O yeah, and we were just told that at this time no raises are being approved.

    Where do those people work who claim health benefits aren't skyrocketing?

    I was far better off before this mess took over.

    mine aren't, but I work in the insurance industry, so....
    The best part is I been plunking money into my HSA for about a decade without taking hardly any out.
    So I can afford to take a higher-deductible policy each year, and my premiums go down.
    So I can afford to put more money into my HSA.
    And the company contributes for participating in their wellness program.
    At the end of the day, health insurance is costing me about $100 per month.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Go Beavers said:

    Had that same presentation from HR in 1995.

    Go Beavers said:

    Had that same presentation from HR in 1995.

    Yeah, as if this is something new lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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