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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    I'm talking about your hero bafoon where is the evidence that Obama wired tapped bafoon tower ..
    The new reports are that Obama circumvented American intelligence rules by obtaining shared information through Britain. That is how Comey, Clapper and Trump can all be correct on their statements.

    The following is a discussion with Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff who does not like Trump:

    http://therealnews.com/t2/story:18593:Empire-in-Decay:-Federal-Government-Falling-Apart-as-Spying-Allegations-Fly
  • Does anybody really believe that a reporter, who nobody ever heard of, "went to his mailbox" and found my tax returns? @NBCNews FAKE NEWS! Can you imagine what the outcry would be if @SnoopDogg, failing career and all, had aimed and fired the gun at President Obama? Jail time! Will be going to Detroit, Michigan (love), today for a big meeting on bringing back car production to State & U.S. Already happening! CEO's most optimistic since 2009. It will only get better as we continue to slash unnecessary regulations and when we begin our big tax cut!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,562
    BS44325 said:

    Correct. Just stating that your assumption that the Gang of 8 would necessarily be aware of surveillance on Trump is not a certainty. The intelligence community has failed on this end recently.
    No that was not my point. My point was that the Gang of 8 is entitled to see classified information. Therefore, if Trump saw evidence in his capacity as POTUS (not some shit he read on a rag), then it does not have to be de-classified before sending to Capitol Hill. You made an argument sometime back that de-classifying was not an easy thing and I'm saying it's unnecessary. I'm not arguing that the Intelligence Community failed to notify the GO8 at any point. That doesn't surprise me.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,853
    BS44325 said:

    The new reports are that Obama circumvented American intelligence rules by obtaining shared information through Britain. That is how Comey, Clapper and Trump can all be correct on their statements.

    The following is a discussion with Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff who does not like Trump:

    http://therealnews.com/t2/story:18593:Empire-in-Decay:-Federal-Government-Falling-Apart-as-Spying-Allegations-Fly
    Where is the evidence from WH staff specifically from bafoon himself ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,562

    Does anybody really believe that a reporter, who nobody ever heard of, "went to his mailbox" and found my tax returns? @NBCNews FAKE NEWS! Can you imagine what the outcry would be if @SnoopDogg, failing career and all, had aimed and fired the gun at President Obama? Jail time! Will be going to Detroit, Michigan (love), today for a big meeting on bringing back car production to State & U.S. Already happening! CEO's most optimistic since 2009. It will only get better as we continue to slash unnecessary regulations and when we begin our big tax cut!

    Funny that the official WH statement last night didn't say it was fake. It actually said it proved that Trump paid a lot in taxes (25%). So which statement is accurate?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    No that was not my point. My point was that the Gang of 8 is entitled to see classified information. Therefore, if Trump saw evidence in his capacity as POTUS (not some shit he read on a rag), then it does not have to be de-classified before sending to Capitol Hill. You made an argument sometime back that de-classifying was not an easy thing and I'm saying it's unnecessary. I'm not arguing that the Intelligence Community failed to notify the GO8 at any point. That doesn't surprise me.
    Gotcha. Yes you are correct that they are entitled. The question though is again "if" there is information being withheld from them who is doing the withholding? Also if information came to Trump from a foreign source...as now it is being speculated that initial surveillance came to the Obama administration through Britain...what are the sharing requirements/abilities at that point? Maybe Trump can't share info that came through GCHQ? These are things we don't know.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    Where is the evidence from WH staff specifically from bafoon himself ?
    You can't always get what you want.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,853
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,853
    So when will he ever take responsibility for anything at all ?
    He blamed all those women for his assault on them the man is a gangster !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • I will be interviewed by @TuckerCarlson tonight at 9:00 P.M. on @FoxNews. Enjoy!

    Anyone on the train going to watch? I am curious if comments from the fox news haters around here will start to come only after msm gives their take or will they watch and comment before the headlines and tweets start coming?

    jose?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366
    edited March 2017
    Idris said:

    it was always an issue.
    It was always a thing, but not an issue for so many people. Apparently the instances have gone up by 5000% since Trump took office. That is kind of significant, lol. Well, I have nothing to hide. Nevertheless, if this has become common practice instead of the exception, I think I'll probably stop travelling to the USA and keep my money in Canada. I'm not willing to subject myself to that.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I honestly watched Fox News for a solid six months last year. I wanted to hear a different perspective, like maybe I wasn't getting it with the other news sources. It was truly terrible. The Five, Bill, and Hannity are just terrible. They don't even try to have credibility or journalistic integrity. I think the same can be said for the MSNBC prime time but it's to a whole other level on Fox. I can honestly say that the time I spent watching Fox, my level of personal paranoia on things increased. They're very good at that. Thankfully I'm aware of things like that, whereas their vast majority of the elderly market does not.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited March 2017

    I wanted to hear a different perspective, like maybe I wasn't getting it with the other news sources. It was truly terrible. The Five, Bill, and Hannity are just terrible. They don't even try to have credibility or journalistic integrity.

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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited March 2017

    I honestly watched Fox News for a solid six months last year. I wanted to hear a different perspective, like maybe I wasn't getting it with the other news sources. It was truly terrible. The Five, Bill, and Hannity are just terrible. They don't even try to have credibility or journalistic integrity. I think the same can be said for the MSNBC prime time but it's to a whole other level on Fox. I can honestly say that the time I spent watching Fox, my level of personal paranoia on things increased. They're very good at that. Thankfully I'm aware of things like that, whereas their vast majority of the elderly market does not.

    I only like Tucker.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    unsung said:

    I only like Tucker.
    I believe that. Tucker is the best of the opinion people. I would like to see him have his own channel or broadcast independent of a networks agenda. I feel like he tries to fill a role or play a part on the given network he's on. Him being independent could be something I'd tune into.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,407
    On twitter he seems to have a better grasp on reality than some of the other Fox folks.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Tucker's face when his guests are talking is just intolerable, how has he not fixed that yet??

    It's truly intolerable.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,853
    In a Repudiation of Trump, a Senior House Leader Rejects Wiretap Claim - The New York Times
    https://apple.news/A9LQ63QulQwKPcLTfki6YWg

    Ok so maybe a bafoon supporter here can provide some evidence or anything to back up his claim hey pjfan do you have a link or anything to help clear this mess up ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited March 2017

    In a Repudiation of Trump, a Senior House Leader Rejects Wiretap Claim - The New York Times
    https://apple.news/A9LQ63QulQwKPcLTfki6YWg

    Ok so maybe a bafoon supporter here can provide some evidence or anything to back up his claim hey pjfan do you have a link or anything to help clear this mess up ...

    I can't state it any more clear.
    I don't give a flying fuck if this story is true or not. It in no way affects me personally at all and I don't think it affects you either.
    As you pro-impeach people say "give it time"
    If the story ends up being true the media will be ashamed.

    edit - removed not
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366
    edited March 2017

    I can't state it any more clear.
    I don't give a flying fuck if this story is true or not. It in no way affects me personally at all and I don't think it affects you either.
    As you pro-impeach people say "give it time"
    If the story ends up not being true the media will be ashamed.
    Plus you're not even a Trump supporter, so Jose shouldn't have asked you in the first place. :)

    Why do you think the media will be ashamed though? I think the media has mostly treated this under the assumption that it isn't true, and have mostly been talking about what that fact means. And I doubt the alt-right fake news folks will care one way or the other. They'll just say it's true, and there is a cover-up going on, lol.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    Plus you're not even a Trump supporter, so Jose shouldn't have asked you in the first place. :)

    Why do you think the media will be ashamed though? I think the media has mostly treated this under the assumption that it isn't true, and have mostly been talking about what that fact means. And I doubt the alt-right fake news folks will care one way or the other. They'll just say it's true, and there is a cover-up going on, lol.
    Not sure how the word not ended up in my post, I was typing too fast.
    I meant being true.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366

    Not sure how the word not ended up in my post, I was typing too fast.
    I meant being true.
    Huh? Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • ^^^
    My first post said If the story ends up not being true the media will be ashamed.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,562

    I can't state it any more clear.
    I don't give a flying fuck if this story is true or not. It in no way affects me personally at all and I don't think it affects you either.
    As you pro-impeach people say "give it time"
    If the story ends up being true the media will be ashamed.

    edit - removed not
    Are you saying you don't give a fuck if either
    A. the former president was illegally spying on a candidate or
    B. the current president lied to the nation and accused the president of committing a crime

    The only way you shouldn't care about this if you don't care about American politics. Considering your time spent here, I don't think that's the case. So please explain how you can care about American politics but not care about A or B? Both have extreme ramifications as to the trustworthiness and truthfullness of the chief executive.
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