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Bentleyspop

President Obama has admitted to the wiretapping....

https://youtu.be/2LcP4R9_QkA

josevolution

Those taxes are for 1 yr ok let's move on he's good to go it proves he's a upstanding tax paying citizen and always has no , i mean we really don't need to see from 2006 to now for what it's funny but HRC released her taxes all the way back to the 70's so did her husband when he was president..

josevolution

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/four-things-we-learned-about-trumps-tax-returns-from-maddow-w472202

ikiT

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

ikiT

Didn't he take an enormous loss ($916 million because he's SO good at business) in 1995 that, according to reports, would have allowed him to not pay any taxes for 18 years after that? 2006? That was only 11 years later.

Seems like what is known as "bullshit", not only inside, but outside the beltway.

DISTRACTION

josevolution

Tiki said:

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

Exactly those taxes were leaked by his administration to create a distraction keep your eye on the ball folks like Tiki is saying Russian influenced our elections !

ikiT

“I love the poorly educated!”—Donald Trump (2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0

cincybearcat

See - Rachel Maddow is just a blowhard like Hannity and Limbaugh.

josevolution

cincybearcat said:

See - Rachel Maddow is just a blowhard like Hannity and Limbaugh.

Ok I can agree do please tell us who will report on issues like this on a non by partisan basis , where can we get info like this surely not in faux&friends so here we are we're do we turn now ?

Smellyman

cincybearcat said:

See - Rachel Maddow is just a blowhard like Hannity and Limbaugh.

She is far left like they are far right. She uses pesky facts though. The latter don't need to use facts pandering to their audience.

mrussel1

josevolution said:

Tiki said:

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

Exactly those taxes were leaked by his administration to create a distraction keep your eye on the ball folks like Tiki is saying Russian influenced our elections !

I doubt that... Trump runs his own interference and it's much bigger (as evidenced by the infamous Sat morning tweet). This isn't a big story so if they planted it, it's nothing. Get something from the last six years.

But really.. the only thing that will really tell us anything of use are the business taxes. You have to see where his corporate liabilities are. Any debts to Russian banks or anything nefarious will not be on his personal taxes I wouldn't think. He puts everything into LLC's, corps, etc. That would be my guess.

dignin

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

Tiki said:

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

Exactly those taxes were leaked by his administration to create a distraction keep your eye on the ball folks like Tiki is saying Russian influenced our elections !

I doubt that... Trump runs his own interference and it's much bigger (as evidenced by the infamous Sat morning tweet). This isn't a big story so if they planted it, it's nothing. Get something from the last six years.

But really.. the only thing that will really tell us anything of use are the business taxes. You have to see where his corporate liabilities are. Any debts to Russian banks or anything nefarious will not be on his personal taxes I wouldn't think. He puts everything into LLC's, corps, etc. That would be my guess.

I have a nutty conspiracy theory about this.




I think someone has one (or more) of Trump's tax returns with damaging info in it. They are trying to blackmail Trump and to show they have the goods and are serious they leak a few pages to a reporter.

Okay, it's now safe to take off your hat.

But either way, short of Trump being behind this leak, we know that this info is out there. So hopefully we will eventually see more leaks.

Common sense tells me his tax returns contain very damaging info.

BS44325

josevolution said:

Tiki said:

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

Exactly those taxes were leaked by his administration to create a distraction keep your eye on the ball folks like Tiki is saying Russian influenced our elections !

https://youtu.be/QvMq2YZloZM

josevolution

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Tiki said:

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

Exactly those taxes were leaked by his administration to create a distraction keep your eye on the ball folks like Tiki is saying Russian influenced our elections !

https://youtu.be/QvMq2YZloZM

Haha please tell us the you believe his not capable of doing shit like this or that he was not aware of any Russian collusion...

BS44325

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Tiki said:

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

Exactly those taxes were leaked by his administration to create a distraction keep your eye on the ball folks like Tiki is saying Russian influenced our elections !

https://youtu.be/QvMq2YZloZM

Haha please tell us the you believe his not capable of doing shit like this or that he was not aware of any Russian collusion...

Everybody is capable yet there was no Russian collusion to be aware of...unless you know of something that James Clapper doesn't?

mrussel1

I'm confident that Lindsey Graham will put country first and do his job as head of the judiciary committee. I may not agree with his politics (or McCain's) but I know where they stand morally.

ikiT

snoopdoggs in the mothafuckin hizz-ouse

ikiT

should be an interesting hearing at 230

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Tiki said:

So...over the weekend had a little CNN on. 2 talking heads, one conservative and one liberal, around the weekend anchor. Maybe it was the time change, maybe I'm just OVER it, but I have no idea what anyone's names were, the anchor may have been Ana Cabrera.

The conservative says that it's assumed as fact that there was a turned down FISA warrant and one that was accepted. The lib starts yelling at the guy and soon they're just shouting over each other. I'm thinking, is that what happened? Is that true? Is it just spin?
I've gotten to the point where I can't even follow this shit along.

Support media you trust. I just bought a 9.99 Washington Post subscription. The NYT is next.

Most reporting confirms the FISA warrant story above but the truth is nobody knows 100%. FISA requests are classified and if there even was/were FISA requests the next question would be who was/were listed as the target(s). Nobody knows anything with certainty. The New York Times and the Washington Post are hardly anymore trustworthy on this issue.

No offense, but this is sort of crap. Trump made the accusation. He can easily have the information sent down to the select committees. He could even strong arm a public release. The fact that there are "media reports" and conflicting information is emblematic of what a crock of shit this likely is.

"He can easily have the information sent down" is sort of crap as well. That's the kind of sentence one would read in the Washington Post. This involves sources and methods. You don't know if this is "easy" at all. You also don't know what the select committee even knows or can talk about at this point. Also...no offense.

McCain, Schiff and others have been explicit that they've seen nothing.
Unless you're saying Trump's only source is the media, then yes he can ensure that Congress gets what they need..because presumably it's been shown to him, driving his tweet.

Give me a break. Don't defend the defenseless.

This is not defending the defenseless. I have already told you that I am open to the possibility that Trump is full of shit on this point. The DOJ has just asked for and been granted more time to bring evidence to the committee. There still may be no evidence to give but if that is the case I assume they would already just say so. Why ask for a delay? DOJ will either have to say there is no evidence of spying or will have to come up with a reason why it can't share any evidence that exists. Declassification of evidence, sources and methods is just not as simple as all the intelligence analysts on the AMT think. Cards are being placed on the table and we'll soon find out whether Trump is lying or whether it is the beginning of watergate 2.0 and in that case it will be all of you who will have to defend the defenseless.

It doesn't need to be declassified to send to the select committees.

So you say.

What do you mean? You have the select committees who are by law allowed to view classified materials adn if the POTUS deems certain intelligence to be too sensitive, you have the Gang of Eight. This isn't "so I say"... this is the actual US Code.

Great press conference with Schiff and Nunes on right now. One point that came up was previous failure of Intelligence to notify Gang of 8 of "incidental" spying on congresspersons when required in the past. Nunes said that they went through a process to "clean this up" but that it's possible IC failed to provide proper notifications again.

josevolution

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Tiki said:

It's still about the FBI director's SENATE TESTIMONY on RUSSIA today at 230 ET.

not this probably fake distraction leaked by the WH.

Exactly those taxes were leaked by his administration to create a distraction keep your eye on the ball folks like Tiki is saying Russian influenced our elections !

https://youtu.be/QvMq2YZloZM

Haha please tell us the you believe his not capable of doing shit like this or that he was not aware of any Russian collusion...

Everybody is capable yet there was no Russian collusion to be aware of...unless you know of something that James Clapper doesn't?

lol yeah ok and he didn't grope women all over the world how does it feel to believe a man like this who has no moral compass at all and lies at least once a day ...