Recent Wave of Immigrant Arrests - What Does it Mean?

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    seriously. jesus.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,559
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    really ?

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    really ?

    What on Earth were you saying?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    So why give people the false hope that if they immigrate to the US, it will be all rainbows and unicorns? If we do not have the jobs, food, healthcare or other means to provide for people already here, why do we keep trying to adopt more and more? The US has turned into the cat lady.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,615
    rgambs said:

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    really ?

    What on Earth were you saying?
    We have to learn bafoonism it's the new language and soon to come Russian!!
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,374
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    So why give people the false hope that if they immigrate to the US, it will be all rainbows and unicorns? If we do not have the jobs, food, healthcare or other means to provide for people already here, why do we keep trying to adopt more and more? The US has turned into the cat lady.
    My grandparents were told wonderful things about the US. This was in the early 1900s. I think most people come here for opportunity or to escape oppression. Contemprary immigrants come here for the same reasons. I can't think of the US without a welcoming immigration policy as so many people in this country are part of the immigration legacy.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    So why give people the false hope that if they immigrate to the US, it will be all rainbows and unicorns? If we do not have the jobs, food, healthcare or other means to provide for people already here, why do we keep trying to adopt more and more? The US has turned into the cat lady.
    it's not false hope if it's still better than where they are.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Ms. Haiku said:

    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    So why give people the false hope that if they immigrate to the US, it will be all rainbows and unicorns? If we do not have the jobs, food, healthcare or other means to provide for people already here, why do we keep trying to adopt more and more? The US has turned into the cat lady.
    My grandparents were told wonderful things about the US. This was in the early 1900s. I think most people come here for opportunity or to escape oppression. Contemprary immigrants come here for the same reasons. I can't think of the US without a welcoming immigration policy as so many people in this country are part of the immigration legacy.
    we're all immigrants here. whether it's goes back one generation or 15...we're all immigrants.

    also, I don't believe that it's false hope at all. look around the world and tell me that if you were in some of those countries/situations that you wouldn't be looking elsewhere to have the best life for yourself and your family. if you say otherwise, you're either lying to yourself or you need to take your blinders off.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    rgambs said:

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    really ?

    What on Earth were you saying?
    We have to learn bafoonism it's the new language and soon to come Russian!!
    cool, maybe it will replace Spanish ?

  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491

    rgambs said:

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    really ?

    What on Earth were you saying?
    We have to learn bafoonism it's the new language and soon to come Russian!!
    cool, maybe it will replace Spanish ?

    Unreal.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mfc2006 said:

    rgambs said:

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    really ?

    What on Earth were you saying?
    We have to learn bafoonism it's the new language and soon to come Russian!!
    cool, maybe it will replace Spanish ?

    Unreal.
    he's just trolling.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491

    mfc2006 said:

    rgambs said:

    the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.

    And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.
    illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.

    No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.
    a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?

    I would respond if I had any idea what you point was here.

    Are you equating voting with robbing a bank?
    really ?

    What on Earth were you saying?
    We have to learn bafoonism it's the new language and soon to come Russian!!
    cool, maybe it will replace Spanish ?

    Unreal.
    he's just trolling.
    I know it. That doesn't make any less disgusting, though.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    I readily admit there are limited opportunities, thanks for agreeing.

    Now why do you want to import more poor when there are not opportunities for them to be productive?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    I readily admit there are limited opportunities, thanks for agreeing.

    Now why do you want to import more poor when there are not opportunities for them to be productive?
    That's what my old great great great gran pappy used to say.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    dignin said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    I readily admit there are limited opportunities, thanks for agreeing.

    Now why do you want to import more poor when there are not opportunities for them to be productive?
    That's what my old great great great gran pappy used to say.
    LOL!
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    So why give people the false hope that if they immigrate to the US, it will be all rainbows and unicorns? If we do not have the jobs, food, healthcare or other means to provide for people already here, why do we keep trying to adopt more and more? The US has turned into the cat lady.
    it's not false hope if it's still better than where they are.
    Maybe I should say "exaggerated" hope.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Living wage job is not a right.
    I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?
    I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.
    See, the answer is no, that there aren't jobs for everyone. But what underlies your position is the assumption that there is an open job for everyone.
    I readily admit there are limited opportunities, thanks for agreeing.

    Now why do you want to import more poor when there are not opportunities for them to be productive?
    Maybe there would be more jobs waiting on them on farms and ranches if....oh what a conundrum.
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,374
    Just read more articles about the DHS memos and the wall. Building a wall is activating a type of Cold War. Its wrong.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Word is that there is about to be roughly 10,000 career opportunities here:
    https://www.ice.gov/careers
    cool... 10,000 government jobs and a $30,000,000,000 wall....

    brought to you by small government fiscally conservative republicans? lol