Recent Wave of Immigrant Arrests - What Does it Mean?
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Buh bye Daniel.0 -
to be honest ...your using numbers like it matters, did your source count heads (no pun intended) and knew who were radical and who would radicalize, do your numbers matter to the journalist who had his head cut of while begging and gurgling through his own blood when they sliced his throat, think it matters to his family ? or the women in Germany and France who were rapped by the muslim immigrant's there ?HughFreakingDillon said:
care to comment on this one, GF?HughFreakingDillon said:
you are completely missing the point. the point is this:Godfather. said:thank you all for the wonderful entertainment, as far as muslam being a religion of peace and understanding......non of you have a leg to stand on and your reply's just proved my point and yet all you can do is bring up Christianity and Catholic Priest'...a sure sign you've hit a wall with your pro argument for muslam .
you simply cannot take one very fringe portion of a religion and envelope that entire religion with that incredibly small fringe.
which is why your comment about going to a muslim country and getting your head chopped off is so ludicrous. as ludicrous as saying "don't go to vatican city or your son is sure to get raped by a priest". it simply is not the case. are the problems in all religions, not just all religions, in all groups in society? of course. we are merely pointing out that your view that islam is out to destroy the west's way of life is pure lunacy.
it's all simple math: (I googled "how many muslim extremists are there in the world?")
https://www.quora.com/How-many-extremist-Muslims-are-there-when-compared-with-the-wider-and-world-wide-Muslim-population
As mentioned already, it depends on how one defines "extremism." Assuming the news definition and common usage, CNN has a good article listing the numbers of various "Islamic" terrorist organizations (there's a whole other discussion on how the question is wrong since Islam doesn't teach unwarranted violence, but that's another question entirely). The article estimates around 106,000 individuals are members or identify with these organizations. That's a pretty high number, but let's do some high-level number crunching so we can get a better idea of how big that is.
A recent Pew Research Study places the number of Muslims worldwide to be around 1.6 billion (or 23% of the world's population). So doing some basic math, we get that about .006625% of the Muslim population are "extremist".
you guy's use numbers like you're trying minimalize the atrocities these freaks commit, if the news and local media has shown us anything at all it's that we don't know which muslims we can trust, as someone was kind enough to point out the gay killer in Florida was born in NY ...well there ya go, I'm sure his family is proud of him. so anyway to me your numbers don't mean anything.
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trust a trump supporter when they say facts don't mean anything.Godfather. said:
to be honest ...your using numbers like it matters, did your source count heads (no pun intended) and knew who were radical and who would radicalize, do your numbers matter to the journalist who had his head cut of while begging and gurgling through his own blood when they sliced his throat, think it matters to his family ? or the women in Germany and France who were rapped by the muslim immigrant's there ?HughFreakingDillon said:
care to comment on this one, GF?HughFreakingDillon said:
you are completely missing the point. the point is this:Godfather. said:thank you all for the wonderful entertainment, as far as muslam being a religion of peace and understanding......non of you have a leg to stand on and your reply's just proved my point and yet all you can do is bring up Christianity and Catholic Priest'...a sure sign you've hit a wall with your pro argument for muslam .
you simply cannot take one very fringe portion of a religion and envelope that entire religion with that incredibly small fringe.
which is why your comment about going to a muslim country and getting your head chopped off is so ludicrous. as ludicrous as saying "don't go to vatican city or your son is sure to get raped by a priest". it simply is not the case. are the problems in all religions, not just all religions, in all groups in society? of course. we are merely pointing out that your view that islam is out to destroy the west's way of life is pure lunacy.
it's all simple math: (I googled "how many muslim extremists are there in the world?")
https://www.quora.com/How-many-extremist-Muslims-are-there-when-compared-with-the-wider-and-world-wide-Muslim-population
As mentioned already, it depends on how one defines "extremism." Assuming the news definition and common usage, CNN has a good article listing the numbers of various "Islamic" terrorist organizations (there's a whole other discussion on how the question is wrong since Islam doesn't teach unwarranted violence, but that's another question entirely). The article estimates around 106,000 individuals are members or identify with these organizations. That's a pretty high number, but let's do some high-level number crunching so we can get a better idea of how big that is.
A recent Pew Research Study places the number of Muslims worldwide to be around 1.6 billion (or 23% of the world's population). So doing some basic math, we get that about .006625% of the Muslim population are "extremist".
you guy's use numbers like you're trying minimalize the atrocities these freaks commit, if the news and local media has shown us anything at all it's that we don't know which muslims we can trust, as someone was kind enough to point out the gay killer in Florida was born in NY ...well there ya go, I'm sure his family is proud of him. so anyway to me your numbers don't mean anything.0 -
Godfather, including 9/11, roughly 3,000 Americans have lost their lives at the hands of terrorists between 2001 and 2014 (https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_AmericanTerrorismDeaths_FactSheet_Oct2015.pdf) - about 230 people a year. Compare that to 12,000 gun-induced homicides which take place each year (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/). Between 2001 and 2014, over half a million people died at the hands of a motor vehicle in America (https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx) - over 29,000 in 2014 alone.Godfather. said:
to be honest ...your using numbers like it matters, did your source count heads (no pun intended) and knew who were radical and who would radicalize, do your numbers matter to the journalist who had his head cut of while begging and gurgling through his own blood when they sliced his throat, think it matters to his family ? or the women in Germany and France who were rapped by the muslim immigrant's there ?HughFreakingDillon said:
care to comment on this one, GF?HughFreakingDillon said:
you are completely missing the point. the point is this:Godfather. said:thank you all for the wonderful entertainment, as far as muslam being a religion of peace and understanding......non of you have a leg to stand on and your reply's just proved my point and yet all you can do is bring up Christianity and Catholic Priest'...a sure sign you've hit a wall with your pro argument for muslam .
you simply cannot take one very fringe portion of a religion and envelope that entire religion with that incredibly small fringe.
which is why your comment about going to a muslim country and getting your head chopped off is so ludicrous. as ludicrous as saying "don't go to vatican city or your son is sure to get raped by a priest". it simply is not the case. are the problems in all religions, not just all religions, in all groups in society? of course. we are merely pointing out that your view that islam is out to destroy the west's way of life is pure lunacy.
it's all simple math: (I googled "how many muslim extremists are there in the world?")
https://www.quora.com/How-many-extremist-Muslims-are-there-when-compared-with-the-wider-and-world-wide-Muslim-population
As mentioned already, it depends on how one defines "extremism." Assuming the news definition and common usage, CNN has a good article listing the numbers of various "Islamic" terrorist organizations (there's a whole other discussion on how the question is wrong since Islam doesn't teach unwarranted violence, but that's another question entirely). The article estimates around 106,000 individuals are members or identify with these organizations. That's a pretty high number, but let's do some high-level number crunching so we can get a better idea of how big that is.
A recent Pew Research Study places the number of Muslims worldwide to be around 1.6 billion (or 23% of the world's population). So doing some basic math, we get that about .006625% of the Muslim population are "extremist".
you guy's use numbers like you're trying minimalize the atrocities these freaks commit, if the news and local media has shown us anything at all it's that we don't know which muslims we can trust, as someone was kind enough to point out the gay killer in Florida was born in NY ...well there ya go, I'm sure his family is proud of him. so anyway to me your numbers don't mean anything.
You've come on here claiming your priorities are the safety of Americans, and the proper spending of government funds, but see below:
Multiples of terrorist-related fatalities annually:
Terrorist-related fatalities - 230/yr - 1x
Gun-induced homicides - 12,000/yr - 52x
Motor vehicle fatalities - 29,000/yr - 126x
Can Trump swear a vendetta against terrorists, and do they introduce risk to American life? Yes, of course they do! But the massive difference in impact between terrorism and motor vehicle safety certainly tells a story about which topic should be making headlines right now.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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numbers don't matter? so the entire argument for pro-gun folks is that folks who want more regulation on guns is that we are focusing on the irresponsible gun owners, that the majority of gun owners are responsible, don't punish the responsible ones for the minor few irresponsible ones. numbers matter in this instance.Godfather. said:
to be honest ...your using numbers like it matters, did your source count heads (no pun intended) and knew who were radical and who would radicalize, do your numbers matter to the journalist who had his head cut of while begging and gurgling through his own blood when they sliced his throat, think it matters to his family ? or the women in Germany and France who were rapped by the muslim immigrant's there ?HughFreakingDillon said:
care to comment on this one, GF?HughFreakingDillon said:
you are completely missing the point. the point is this:Godfather. said:thank you all for the wonderful entertainment, as far as muslam being a religion of peace and understanding......non of you have a leg to stand on and your reply's just proved my point and yet all you can do is bring up Christianity and Catholic Priest'...a sure sign you've hit a wall with your pro argument for muslam .
you simply cannot take one very fringe portion of a religion and envelope that entire religion with that incredibly small fringe.
which is why your comment about going to a muslim country and getting your head chopped off is so ludicrous. as ludicrous as saying "don't go to vatican city or your son is sure to get raped by a priest". it simply is not the case. are the problems in all religions, not just all religions, in all groups in society? of course. we are merely pointing out that your view that islam is out to destroy the west's way of life is pure lunacy.
it's all simple math: (I googled "how many muslim extremists are there in the world?")
https://www.quora.com/How-many-extremist-Muslims-are-there-when-compared-with-the-wider-and-world-wide-Muslim-population
As mentioned already, it depends on how one defines "extremism." Assuming the news definition and common usage, CNN has a good article listing the numbers of various "Islamic" terrorist organizations (there's a whole other discussion on how the question is wrong since Islam doesn't teach unwarranted violence, but that's another question entirely). The article estimates around 106,000 individuals are members or identify with these organizations. That's a pretty high number, but let's do some high-level number crunching so we can get a better idea of how big that is.
A recent Pew Research Study places the number of Muslims worldwide to be around 1.6 billion (or 23% of the world's population). So doing some basic math, we get that about .006625% of the Muslim population are "extremist".
you guy's use numbers like you're trying minimalize the atrocities these freaks commit, if the news and local media has shown us anything at all it's that we don't know which muslims we can trust, as someone was kind enough to point out the gay killer in Florida was born in NY ...well there ya go, I'm sure his family is proud of him. so anyway to me your numbers don't mean anything.
but when it comes to human beings, numbers all of a sudden don't matter. you are arguing FOR punishing the entire group because of the sins of the incredibly few.
you use opposite logic dependent on your personal biases. you don't see that?
using numbers is no way minimizes the atrocities commited. it minimizes that amount of atrocities comitted per person in that group. understand the difference.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
not to mention this fact:
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE TERRORIST ATTACK HAS HAPPENED ON US SOIL AS A RESULT OF A REFUGEE.
NOT.
FREAKING.
ONE.
"but we gotta keep them all out!!!"By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Today is
#ADayWithoutImmigrants
(CNN video) http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/02/16/a-day-without-immigrants-rallies-tom-foreman-the-lead.cnn/video/playlists/cant-miss/
Some restaurants closed or covered for the staff that went on strike. Over seven million immigrants work in the food industry, and that is half of all food industry workers. Marches are a great way for people to feel engaged and to feel that they belong.Post edited by Ms. Haiku onThere is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird0 -
The following is a New York Times article about Sanctuary Cities and ways some Sanctuary Cities are adding polices to remove small crimes that could be used to put immigrants in the criminal system.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/opinion/sanctuary-cities-in-name-only.html?smid=tw-share&referer=https://t.co/S9GYX8vS4ZThere is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird0 -
What part of illegal immigrants do people not understand? Were you as concerned when the previous administration removed an average of 312,500 illegal immigrants during their term? That is 2.5 million over 8 years.Ms. Haiku said:Today is
#ADayWithoutImmigrants
(CNN video) http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/02/16/a-day-without-immigrants-rallies-tom-foreman-the-lead.cnn/video/playlists/cant-miss/
Some restaurants closed or covered for the staff that went on strike. Over seven million immigrants work in the food industry, and that is half of all food industry workers. Marches are a great way for people to feel engaged and to feel that they belong.96 Randall's Island II
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What part of immigrants contains the word illegal?Dirtie_Frank said:
What part of illegal immigrants do people not understand? Were you as concerned when the previous administration removed an average of 312,500 illegal immigrants during their term? That is 2.5 million over 8 years.Ms. Haiku said:Today is
#ADayWithoutImmigrants
(CNN video) http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/02/16/a-day-without-immigrants-rallies-tom-foreman-the-lead.cnn/video/playlists/cant-miss/
Some restaurants closed or covered for the staff that went on strike. Over seven million immigrants work in the food industry, and that is half of all food industry workers. Marches are a great way for people to feel engaged and to feel that they belong.0 -
boston bombing ? San Bernardino ? ........oh wait ! they were born here and radicalized right ?HughFreakingDillon said:not to mention this fact:
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE TERRORIST ATTACK HAS HAPPENED ON US SOIL AS A RESULT OF A REFUGEE.
NOT.
FREAKING.
ONE.
"but we gotta keep them all out!!!"
A nasty infestation that needs to be removed.
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What has to be understood is how unauthorized immigrants make the headlines, but my original question reflects the anxiety legal immigrants may feel with stricter immigration laws.Dirtie_Frank said:
What part of illegal immigrants do people not understand? Were you as concerned when the previous administration removed an average of 312,500 illegal immigrants during their term? That is 2.5 million over 8 years.Ms. Haiku said:Today is
#ADayWithoutImmigrants
(CNN video) http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/02/16/a-day-without-immigrants-rallies-tom-foreman-the-lead.cnn/video/playlists/cant-miss/
Some restaurants closed or covered for the staff that went on strike. Over seven million immigrants work in the food industry, and that is half of all food industry workers. Marches are a great way for people to feel engaged and to feel that they belong.
Migration Policy Institute article
The U.S. immigrant population stood at more than 42.4 million, or 13.3 percent, of the total U.S. population of 318.9 million in 2014, according to ACS data. Between 2013 and 2014, the foreign-born population increased by 1 million, or 2.5 percent.
I see the march as immigrants giving a voice to any disrespect that they are shown as highlighted in the video.
I definitely wasn't as aware the last 8 years, but I'm becoming more aware day by day. It's never a stretch for me to think about it as my grandparents were immigrants.Post edited by Ms. Haiku onThere is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird0 -
This administration is running like a fine tuned machine lol he inherited a mess this country is a mess Obama left him a mess , the population has stopped believing news outlets he stated !!!
If you can't see that he's a total nut case living in his own reality show!!!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
poor Jose....do you need a hug ?josevolution said:This administration is running like a fine tuned machine lol he inherited a mess this country is a mess Obama left him a mess , the population has stopped believing news outlets he stated !!!
If you can't see that he's a total nut case living in his own reality show!!!
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wow.Godfather. said:
boston bombing ? San Bernardino ? ........oh wait ! they were born here and radicalized right ?HughFreakingDillon said:not to mention this fact:
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE TERRORIST ATTACK HAS HAPPENED ON US SOIL AS A RESULT OF A REFUGEE.
NOT.
FREAKING.
ONE.
"but we gotta keep them all out!!!"
A nasty infestation that needs to be removed.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERS MOBILISING AS MANY AS 100,000 NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS TO ROUND UP UNAUTHORISED IMMIGRANTS.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-17-10-11-220 -
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone can refer to a group of people as a "nasty infestion" that "needs to be removed" and still not admit to their racism.Godfather. said:
boston bombing ? San Bernardino ? ........oh wait ! they were born here and radicalized right ?HughFreakingDillon said:not to mention this fact:
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE TERRORIST ATTACK HAS HAPPENED ON US SOIL AS A RESULT OF A REFUGEE.
NOT.
FREAKING.
ONE.
"but we gotta keep them all out!!!"
A nasty infestation that needs to be removed.
it is just a fucking disgusting thing to say. And I know that the right are getting tired of the Hitler comparison, but that definitely falls under the category of something he would have said.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I don't think GF has mirrors in his house. I think that explains it.HughFreakingDillon said:
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone can refer to a group of people as a "nasty infestion" that "needs to be removed" and still not admit to their racism.Godfather. said:
boston bombing ? San Bernardino ? ........oh wait ! they were born here and radicalized right ?HughFreakingDillon said:not to mention this fact:
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE.
NOT ONE TERRORIST ATTACK HAS HAPPENED ON US SOIL AS A RESULT OF A REFUGEE.
NOT.
FREAKING.
ONE.
"but we gotta keep them all out!!!"
A nasty infestation that needs to be removed.
it is just a fucking disgusting thing to say. And I know that the right are getting tired of the Hitler comparison, but that definitely falls under the category of something he would have said.
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YESSSSS !!!!!!!!!!dignin said:TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERS MOBILISING AS MANY AS 100,000 NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS TO ROUND UP UNAUTHORISED IMMIGRANTS.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-17-10-11-22
he's doing what he said he would do.....most presidents don't make good on campaign promises.
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says the fearful racist0
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