Recent Wave of Immigrant Arrests - What Does it Mean?
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I guess that is why there needs to be an appropriate vetting immigration process to prevent people like her from deportation. We can't just blindly say let's let everyone in to prevent these cases from happening. The outcome like this is horrible and I do not wish that on any family. But the line is drawn and people who are here "legally" (as in working and paying taxes) need to be encouraged to actually become legal citizens with less stringent process then as is currently. Educate them as such. Then close the borders to those individuals who do not follow the appropriate due process...oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.Post edited by PP193448 on2006 Clev,Pitt; 2008 NY MSGx2; 2010 Columbus; 2012 Missoula; 2013 Phoenix,Vancouver,Seattle; 2014 Cincy; 2016 Lex, Wrigley 1&2; 2018 Wrigley 1&2; 2022 Louisville0 -
Is she? I thought she has to serve her sentence first, then she gets deported. I may have read that wrong. I hope I did, I would rather her deported than spend 8 years in prison then get deported.oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.html0 -
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
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Whoops, you're right, and thank you. Somehow I had forgotten that little detail - 8 years in jail first, then deportation. For voting.dignin said:
Is she? I thought she has to serve her sentence first, then she gets deported. I may have read that wrong. I hope I did, I would rather her deported than spend 8 years in prison then get deported.oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.htmlmy small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
That is fucking ridiculous!!! At least Trump could pardon the jail time...oftenreading said:
Whoops, you're right, and thank you. Somehow I had forgotten that little detail - 8 years in jail first, then deportation. For voting.dignin said:
Is she? I thought she has to serve her sentence first, then she gets deported. I may have read that wrong. I hope I did, I would rather her deported than spend 8 years in prison then get deported.oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.html2006 Clev,Pitt; 2008 NY MSGx2; 2010 Columbus; 2012 Missoula; 2013 Phoenix,Vancouver,Seattle; 2014 Cincy; 2016 Lex, Wrigley 1&2; 2018 Wrigley 1&2; 2022 Louisville0 -
Unfuckingreal.oftenreading said:
Whoops, you're right, and thank you. Somehow I had forgotten that little detail - 8 years in jail first, then deportation. For voting.dignin said:
Is she? I thought she has to serve her sentence first, then she gets deported. I may have read that wrong. I hope I did, I would rather her deported than spend 8 years in prison then get deported.oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.htmlI LOVE MUSIC.
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Unsung, do you have any idea what it's like to be poor or homeless? Ever visited your local shelter when they're all lined up to be let in for a cot to sleep on with everything on their back they own? Do you think people enjoy going to the salvation army? Getting food stamps or WIC support? You act like those who are poor live so well that they have no reason to get a job because they've got it made.Go Beavers said:
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Quit your job, give away all your possessions and then go to the local job corps and see how easy it is to find a job that will pay you enough to support basic human needs; food, shelter and clothes. If only they could afford to pay for a membership to post on PJ's forum and put down you and your narrow minded ignorant viewpoint.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
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Unsung, do you have any idea what it's like to be poor or homeless? Ever visited your local shelter when they're all lined up to be let in for a cot to sleep on with everything on their back they own? Do you think people enjoy going to the salvation army? Getting food stamps or WIC support? You act like those who are poor live so well that they have no reason to get a job because they've got it made.Go Beavers said:
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Quit your job, give away all your possessions and then go to the local job corps and see how easy it is to find a job that will pay you enough to support basic human needs; food, shelter and clothes. If only they could afford to pay for a membership to post on PJ's forum and put down you and your narrow minded ignorant viewpoint.
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HaH! Not going to happenPP193448 said:
That is fucking ridiculous!!! At least Trump could pardon the jail time...oftenreading said:
Whoops, you're right, and thank you. Somehow I had forgotten that little detail - 8 years in jail first, then deportation. For voting.dignin said:
Is she? I thought she has to serve her sentence first, then she gets deported. I may have read that wrong. I hope I did, I would rather her deported than spend 8 years in prison then get deported.oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.html
She was clearly part of the millions of illegal votes.
Even if she voted for the wrong person.0 -
Sure he could. But why would he? She's part of the violent horde of criminals just waiting to simultaneously take your jobs and sit on social assistance.PP193448 said:
That is fucking ridiculous!!! At least Trump could pardon the jail time...oftenreading said:
Whoops, you're right, and thank you. Somehow I had forgotten that little detail - 8 years in jail first, then deportation. For voting.dignin said:
Is she? I thought she has to serve her sentence first, then she gets deported. I may have read that wrong. I hope I did, I would rather her deported than spend 8 years in prison then get deported.oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.html
So now the state will pay to feed and clothe and house her for 8 years, when previously she was feeding and clothing and housing herself and her children.Post edited by oftenreading onmy small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Word is that there is about to be roughly 10,000 career opportunities here:Go Beavers said:
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
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Yeah. I mean, she voted. That's a horrible crime. It's not like she raped anyone or something minor like that; then she'd get six months, let out after three for good behaviour. Of course, for that you need to be a white male athlete.Bentleyspop said:
HaH! Not going to happenPP193448 said:
That is fucking ridiculous!!! At least Trump could pardon the jail time...oftenreading said:
Whoops, you're right, and thank you. Somehow I had forgotten that little detail - 8 years in jail first, then deportation. For voting.dignin said:
Is she? I thought she has to serve her sentence first, then she gets deported. I may have read that wrong. I hope I did, I would rather her deported than spend 8 years in prison then get deported.oftenreading said:
From the news coverage, it just looked as if she was genuinely confused about whether she could vote or not. I can kind of understand that; she grew up in the US, it was her country. She had legal status, was legally allowed to work, etc. Why would anyone risk all of that unless you didn't actually understand you were risking it?PP193448 said:
Why would she vote if she's not a legal citizen?? Just asking. Can you go and vote in Canada if your not a citizen there?? It is inappropriate and extreme to deport her, but why would you do something illegal to potentially lead to deportation?? Plus if she's been in the US all her life, why did she not go thru steps to become a legal citizen?? Seems like common sense to me...oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
Anyway, she's back in Mexico, where she hasn't lived since childhood, and her children are in the US without their mother. Great outcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.html
She was clearly part of the millions of illegal votes.
Even if she voted for the wrong person.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
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Living wage job is not a right.Go Beavers said:
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
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Yes.tbergs said:
Unsung, do you have any idea what it's like to be poor or homeless? Ever visited your local shelter when they're all lined up to be let in for a cot to sleep on with everything on their back they own? Do you think people enjoy going to the salvation army? Getting food stamps or WIC support? You act like those who are poor live so well that they have no reason to get a job because they've got it made.Go Beavers said:
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Quit your job, give away all your possessions and then go to the local job corps and see how easy it is to find a job that will pay you enough to support basic human needs; food, shelter and clothes. If only they could afford to pay for a membership to post on PJ's forum and put down you and your narrow minded ignorant viewpoint.
Odd, you list examples of problems that exist in this country yet you and other want to bring in more of these people from third world countries. How about taking care of the current ones without adding more.Post edited by unsung on0 -
I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?unsung said:
Living wage job is not a right.Go Beavers said:
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
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a man robs a bank, he spends the money to feed his family and pay his rent when suddenly 6 and a half years later DNA testing ties him to the robbery and proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt and is given 10 years in a federal prison and forced to pay fines and restitution .......ain't that a drag, I guess his family should have made better choices in life and convinced him not to rob a bank right ?oftenreading said:
No. The immigrant who was brought to the US by her family when she was a young child, who had lived in the US all her life, who was employed, raising her children, and had landed immigrant status. She voted - once - in the election, and got deported for it a couple of weeks ago.Godfather. said:
illegal immigrant who voted 3 times in just the last election ? that's sounds like a criminal record to me.oftenreading said:
And by criminal record you include the woman who was deported because she voted, right? That heinous act of voting..... for Trump.Godfather. said:the mainstream media will have you believe that the recent wave of door to door deportations was mothers and hotel maids...but the truth is ALL those arrested and set for deportation have criminal records including rape and murder...and that's who you guy are defending.
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now this relates to a specific legal status but its a worthy read......
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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I want to live the lifestyle of a rock star. I deserve it because I said so.Go Beavers said:
I didn't know I said it was. What about the question?unsung said:
Living wage job is not a right.Go Beavers said:
So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?unsung said:
Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.PJ_Soul said:
At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?unsung said:At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
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