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actually, it's been emerging for months...BS44325 said:
Actually none of that is emerging.mickeyrat said:
its emerging that Flynn wasnt the only one of the team. and now we're talking about well before election day. and given his continued deflections in regards to russia's exertion of influence, it suggests to me something involving him directly.BS44325 said:
The only thing that has been suggested to be corruptable right now is Flynn post-lie to Pence. I'm not sure how that's worse then the known corruptable power that was Hillary. Not the same ballpark. At all.mickeyrat said:
still not the same ballpark. at all. preventing corruptable power so corruptable power can take office? stop insulting my intelligence.BS44325 said:
Hillary was a corruptable power. The FBI was giving everybody the heads-up. It was just pushback.mickeyrat said:
colluding with an adversarial foreign power in the electoral process is a lot different than leaking pertinent info on corruptable power. And in the early stages of this particular administration, its a civic obligation imo.bootlegger10 said:
If that is the case than why so mad if Trump colluded with Russia to leak the Hillary campaign's emails? Just pushback, you know, the foundation of this country?mickeyrat said:
exactly. the very founding of this country was pushback against power. what is a leak other than pushback?mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
props to the deftness of your PM the other day btw.
In terms of my PM...Yeah. I don't like him but he played it right.
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the day Flynn spoke to Kremlin about delaying the sanction retaliation:
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Normally I would say that no one is that stupid........HughFreakingDillon said:the day Flynn spoke to Kremlin about delaying the sanction retaliation:
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still can't believe that....HughFreakingDillon said:the day Flynn spoke to Kremlin about delaying the sanction retaliation:
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Just my opinion but Flynn didn't do anything without DJT's knowledge.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
They weren't. That's not the situation here. The VP lied to the American people (possibly unaware that he did). The POTUS lied on Friday saying he was unaware of any situation with Flynn, and then we learned yesterday he had known for 18 days. THEY FUCKING LIED. And they didn't lie to protect national security interests. They lied to protect themselves. The leaker obviously believes the executive branch owes the American people the truth.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I agree with that.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
What would you say if leaked military details on upcoming operations were suddenly laid bare because of the "god blessed whistleblowers"?
Keeping a country safe relies on internal integrity that is the Presidents inner circles job.
You guys on one hand want the POTUS to fail from leaks yet you believe certain things should not be disclosed.
Make up your mind.
He has no relationship with the truth on any level. It's been a steady diet of bullshit since day one.
he and his surrogates have being lying from the get go....day one he lied about the size of his crowd then Spicer reiterated it.
Says he "won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally." November 28th
There was "serious voter fraud" in Virginia. Nov 29
"We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the Electoral College." December 12th
Americans don't "care at all" about Donald Trump's tax returns. Jan 11
"The media ... sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community." Jan 22
"Here in Philadelphia murder has been steady — I mean — just terribly increasing." Jan 26th
"As you know I’m very much opposed to Sanctuary cities, they breed crime" Feb 5
Terrorism and terrorist attacks in the United States and Europe have "gotten to a point where it's not even being reported." February 6th
Says "109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers" were affected by the immigration executive order. February 6th
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And the failure to release his tax returns as Hillary has done, his son being on record boasting of lots of money from Russia pouring in, the intelligence community as whole believing that the white house's situation room is compromised and the 18.5% stake in a billion dollar Russian oil company "sold" to unknown buyers. Yup, nothing to see here. Follow the money.mickeyrat said:
its emerging that Flynn wasnt the only one of the team. and now we're talking about well before election day. and given his continued deflections in regards to russia's exertion of influence, it suggests to me something involving him directly.BS44325 said:
The only thing that has been suggested to be corruptable right now is Flynn post-lie to Pence. I'm not sure how that's worse then the known corruptable power that was Hillary. Not the same ballpark. At all.mickeyrat said:
still not the same ballpark. at all. preventing corruptable power so corruptable power can take office? stop insulting my intelligence.BS44325 said:
Hillary was a corruptable power. The FBI was giving everybody the heads-up. It was just pushback.mickeyrat said:
colluding with an adversarial foreign power in the electoral process is a lot different than leaking pertinent info on corruptable power. And in the early stages of this particular administration, its a civic obligation imo.bootlegger10 said:
If that is the case than why so mad if Trump colluded with Russia to leak the Hillary campaign's emails? Just pushback, you know, the foundation of this country?mickeyrat said:
exactly. the very founding of this country was pushback against power. what is a leak other than pushback?mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
props to the deftness of your PM the other day btw.
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Manafort? Price? What are you smoking?BS44325 said:
Actually none of that is emerging.mickeyrat said:
its emerging that Flynn wasnt the only one of the team. and now we're talking about well before election day. and given his continued deflections in regards to russia's exertion of influence, it suggests to me something involving him directly.BS44325 said:
The only thing that has been suggested to be corruptable right now is Flynn post-lie to Pence. I'm not sure how that's worse then the known corruptable power that was Hillary. Not the same ballpark. At all.mickeyrat said:
still not the same ballpark. at all. preventing corruptable power so corruptable power can take office? stop insulting my intelligence.BS44325 said:
Hillary was a corruptable power. The FBI was giving everybody the heads-up. It was just pushback.mickeyrat said:
colluding with an adversarial foreign power in the electoral process is a lot different than leaking pertinent info on corruptable power. And in the early stages of this particular administration, its a civic obligation imo.bootlegger10 said:
If that is the case than why so mad if Trump colluded with Russia to leak the Hillary campaign's emails? Just pushback, you know, the foundation of this country?mickeyrat said:
exactly. the very founding of this country was pushback against power. what is a leak other than pushback?mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
props to the deftness of your PM the other day btw.
In terms of my PM...Yeah. I don't like him but he played it right.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Not if Kid Rock is being considered for senate.my2hands said:
you have no idea how jealous I am.jeffbr said:And now being in a legal state, I know exactly where every nug I buy was grown, outdoor/indoor, strain, THC & CBD content, etc...
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he is smoking denialHalifax2TheMax said:
Manafort? Price? What are you smoking?BS44325 said:
Actually none of that is emerging.mickeyrat said:
its emerging that Flynn wasnt the only one of the team. and now we're talking about well before election day. and given his continued deflections in regards to russia's exertion of influence, it suggests to me something involving him directly.BS44325 said:
The only thing that has been suggested to be corruptable right now is Flynn post-lie to Pence. I'm not sure how that's worse then the known corruptable power that was Hillary. Not the same ballpark. At all.mickeyrat said:
still not the same ballpark. at all. preventing corruptable power so corruptable power can take office? stop insulting my intelligence.BS44325 said:
Hillary was a corruptable power. The FBI was giving everybody the heads-up. It was just pushback.mickeyrat said:
colluding with an adversarial foreign power in the electoral process is a lot different than leaking pertinent info on corruptable power. And in the early stages of this particular administration, its a civic obligation imo.bootlegger10 said:
If that is the case than why so mad if Trump colluded with Russia to leak the Hillary campaign's emails? Just pushback, you know, the foundation of this country?mickeyrat said:
exactly. the very founding of this country was pushback against power. what is a leak other than pushback?mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
props to the deftness of your PM the other day btw.
In terms of my PM...Yeah. I don't like him but he played it right.0 -
Is this an all or nothing scenario for you? How about whistleblowers are an asset until their whistleblowing endangers lives? Obviously leaks about political corruption and leaks about military operations should not be viewed with the same lenses.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I agree with that.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
What would you say if leaked military details on upcoming operations were suddenly laid bare because of the "god blessed whistleblowers"?
Keeping a country safe relies on internal integrity that is the Presidents inner circles job.
You guys on one hand want the POTUS to fail from leaks yet you believe certain things should not be disclosed.
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No. Just as ridiculous as the statement I was responding too.eddiec said:
Seriously?bootlegger10 said:
If that is the case than why so mad if Trump colluded with Russia to leak the Hillary campaign's emails? Just pushback, you know, the foundation of this country?mickeyrat said:
exactly. the very founding of this country was pushback against power. what is a leak other than pushback?mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
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You think?? "Colluding with Russia" is the problem phrase there. Not "leak the Hillary campaign emails". If Trump and Russia had absolutely nothing to do with the email leaks, then there wouldn't be a problem. Obviously. But when Russia and a US presidential nominee orchestrate a leak in order to manipulate an election, that's kind of another ball of wax, lol.bootlegger10 said:
No. Just as ridiculous as the statement I was responding too.eddiec said:
Seriously?bootlegger10 said:
If that is the case than why so mad if Trump colluded with Russia to leak the Hillary campaign's emails? Just pushback, you know, the foundation of this country?mickeyrat said:
exactly. the very founding of this country was pushback against power. what is a leak other than pushback?mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
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Yes.PJ_Soul said:
Is this an all or nothing scenario for you? How about whistleblowers are an asset until their whistleblowing endangers lives? Obviously leaks about political corruption and leaks about military operations should not be viewed with the same lenses.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I agree with that.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
What would you say if leaked military details on upcoming operations were suddenly laid bare because of the "god blessed whistleblowers"?
Keeping a country safe relies on internal integrity that is the Presidents inner circles job.
You guys on one hand want the POTUS to fail from leaks yet you believe certain things should not be disclosed.
Make up your mind.
Until they endanger lives is not a reason to consider them an asset.
Why can't they be viewed in the same lenses? If the very same "god blessed whistleblowers" demurring certain facts about corrupt people in cabinet they should be doing it about military ops as well. You wouldn't want corrupt people planning those operations would you.
At any rate Americans are naïve as well to think that their country is not conversing directly/indirectly w/ Russia to gather intelligence.
Asset until they endanger lives, that's a good one.0 -
This can't be a serious point.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Yes.PJ_Soul said:
Is this an all or nothing scenario for you? How about whistleblowers are an asset until their whistleblowing endangers lives? Obviously leaks about political corruption and leaks about military operations should not be viewed with the same lenses.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I agree with that.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
What would you say if leaked military details on upcoming operations were suddenly laid bare because of the "god blessed whistleblowers"?
Keeping a country safe relies on internal integrity that is the Presidents inner circles job.
You guys on one hand want the POTUS to fail from leaks yet you believe certain things should not be disclosed.
Make up your mind.
Until they endanger lives is not a reason to consider them an asset.
Why can't they be viewed in the same lenses? If the very same "god blessed whistleblowers" demurring certain facts about corrupt people in cabinet they should be doing it about military ops as well. You wouldn't want corrupt people planning those operations would you.
At any rate Americans are naïve as well to think that their country is not conversing directly/indirectly w/ Russia to gather intelligence.
Asset until they endanger lives, that's a good one.
BTW - the military officers plan missions. The POTUS doesn't.0 -
the irony.Tiki said:Trump loved leaks before he hated them
"hack her emails, russia!"
"the real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy"Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Really? Does Trump oriented hypocrisy surprise anyone? Do we really think he has a moral compass?HughFreakingDillon said:
the irony.Tiki said:Trump loved leaks before he hated them
"hack her emails, russia!"
"the real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy"0 -
I know but the POTUS approves or not of the mission though.mrussel1 said:
This can't be a serious point.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Yes.PJ_Soul said:
Is this an all or nothing scenario for you? How about whistleblowers are an asset until their whistleblowing endangers lives? Obviously leaks about political corruption and leaks about military operations should not be viewed with the same lenses.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I agree with that.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
What would you say if leaked military details on upcoming operations were suddenly laid bare because of the "god blessed whistleblowers"?
Keeping a country safe relies on internal integrity that is the Presidents inner circles job.
You guys on one hand want the POTUS to fail from leaks yet you believe certain things should not be disclosed.
Make up your mind.
Until they endanger lives is not a reason to consider them an asset.
Why can't they be viewed in the same lenses? If the very same "god blessed whistleblowers" demurring certain facts about corrupt people in cabinet they should be doing it about military ops as well. You wouldn't want corrupt people planning those operations would you.
At any rate Americans are naïve as well to think that their country is not conversing directly/indirectly w/ Russia to gather intelligence.
Asset until they endanger lives, that's a good one.
BTW - the military officers plan missions. The POTUS doesn't.
So if any planners are corrupt/security risk they should also be outed.
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Surely not.mrussel1 said:PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Yes.PJ_Soul said:
Is this an all or nothing scenario for you? How about whistleblowers are an asset until their whistleblowing endangers lives? Obviously leaks about political corruption and leaks about military operations should not be viewed with the same lenses.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I agree with that.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
What would you say if leaked military details on upcoming operations were suddenly laid bare because of the "god blessed whistleblowers"?
Keeping a country safe relies on internal integrity that is the Presidents inner circles job.
You guys on one hand want the POTUS to fail from leaks yet you believe certain things should not be disclosed.
Make up your mind.
Until they endanger lives is not a reason to consider them an asset.
Why can't they be viewed in the same lenses? If the very same "god blessed whistleblowers" demurring certain facts about corrupt people in cabinet they should be doing it about military ops as well. You wouldn't want corrupt people planning those operations would you.
At any rate Americans are naïve as well to think that their country is not conversing directly/indirectly w/ Russia to gather intelligence.
Asset until they endanger lives, that's a good one.
This can't be a serious point.
BTW - the military officers plan missions. The POTUS doesn't.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Your defense of the administration's lies to the American public are weak. You better flip back over to Fox or Twitter to tighten up these arguments. The story is the lying. It's not the leaking.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I know but the POTUS approves or not of the mission though.mrussel1 said:
This can't be a serious point.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Yes.PJ_Soul said:
Is this an all or nothing scenario for you? How about whistleblowers are an asset until their whistleblowing endangers lives? Obviously leaks about political corruption and leaks about military operations should not be viewed with the same lenses.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I agree with that.mrussel1 said:Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.
What would you say if leaked military details on upcoming operations were suddenly laid bare because of the "god blessed whistleblowers"?
Keeping a country safe relies on internal integrity that is the Presidents inner circles job.
You guys on one hand want the POTUS to fail from leaks yet you believe certain things should not be disclosed.
Make up your mind.
Until they endanger lives is not a reason to consider them an asset.
Why can't they be viewed in the same lenses? If the very same "god blessed whistleblowers" demurring certain facts about corrupt people in cabinet they should be doing it about military ops as well. You wouldn't want corrupt people planning those operations would you.
At any rate Americans are naïve as well to think that their country is not conversing directly/indirectly w/ Russia to gather intelligence.
Asset until they endanger lives, that's a good one.
BTW - the military officers plan missions. The POTUS doesn't.
So if any planners are corrupt/security risk they should also be outed.0
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