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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    What a shitshow.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    A glaring omission on the Sessions confirmation delay is that they waited and changed his date so he could be there for the vote on DeVos. Without Sessions, she isn't confirmed. Good old Breitbart. Bannon is running interference to see how this story plays and if Priebus can be forced out.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    I'm at least happy that the Hitler comparisons will finally end.

    not following your logic. the comparisons shall continue

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/adolf-hitler-donald-trump-mein-kampf-bluffed-way-to-power-nazi-leader-germany-fuhrer-us-president-a7568506.html
    Hitler's people didn't resign. We're either on the way to authoritarianism or we are not? The system seems to still be working.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    tbergs said:

    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    Jason P said:

    Once Trump and his merry band of idiots go down, everyone realizes that Pence takes over and that is when the GOP really starts steamrolling, right? Pence can be controlled. I imagine Ryan is banking on this scenario.

    Pence is not a good option. He's the real objective of all of this. Republicans know that he would not campaign effectively and thus be elected. Trump they know is a moron, but was the vessel required to win the election. It might be best just to keep Trump around all 4 years and oust him in the next election.
    Now you're talking sense, my friend, in regards to your last line there.

    The fact that it's a toss up between Trump's absolute incompetence and Pence's complete lack of humanity shows what a real boondoggle we are in here.
    initially, right after the election, i though Pence would be a good compromise. My way of telling myself that 'see, vaggar99 doesn't hate all Republicans'. At that time I was somewhat unaware of Trump's complete inability to be an employee of anyone but himself. Now with the odds looking 50/50 that Trump is gone sooner than later, I am actually having to accept that I might get my wish.

    I am gonna out on the crazy, but I think Dems are justified in asking for a new election if indeed the Russian involvement runs as deep as it was spelled out in the Steele dossier. It's not acceptable for Republicans to steal elections.
    I don't know that the country would be able to survive that type of scenario. Any confirmation of that coming to light will be much worse for this country than anything Trump can and will do himself. Unless Trump outright admitted complicity, our country would be thrown in to chaos at all levels. There would be civil unrest. Who would step forward to unify everyone that actually could appeal to both sides?
    i don't see it happening. i don't think we have Constitutional or legal provisions for this scenario. I'm merely suggesting that it is the right thing to do.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542
    I agree and hope Clinton just goes away enough already plus there is so much more that needs to come to the surface on this administration , let's keep the focus on Bafoon drain the swamp has to start with him !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117

    I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

    I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.

    I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

    The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

    But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    my2hands said:

    I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

    I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.

    I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

    The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

    But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
    it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited February 2017
    Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now
  • my2hands said:

    Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now

    I thought they were only like a year and a half apart in age.
  • my2hands said:

    Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now

    I thought they were only like a year and a half apart in age.
  • The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431

    The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

    can't wait.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    Trump and republicans want to go after White House leakers, because that's where the problems obviously stem from.

    But thankfully it looks like that "lamestream" media isn't buying it. There is blood in the water.

    On top of Flynn's idiocy the leaking is clearly a problem though. A lot of people on here are all of the sudden loving that the CIA is listening in on phone conversations and then sharing their findings with the press. I am not clear whether the resignation would have come without the leaking to the press...hard to know how Pence could tolerate Flynn's continued presence...but this cannot be the standard of practice.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

    That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    vaggar99 said:

    my2hands said:

    I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

    I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.

    I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

    The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

    But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
    it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
    I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • mrussel1 said:

    The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

    That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
    That was his latest tweet.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

    That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
    A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117

    my2hands said:

    Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now

    I thought they were only like a year and a half apart in age.
    You're right... should have fact checked instead of spreading alternative facts lol

    She will be 73 on 2020 election day...

    I think she keeps all options open. That is not an endorsement by the way lol
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

    That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
    A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
    No... negative. These are confidential sources. They need to stay right where they are. If they weren't true, do you really think the WH would not have pushed back on it? There are transcripts that will soon be released to Congress. The WH knew that intelligence had this information. They've known it for a month. They didn't act until it was made public by the WashPo yesterday. Please try to defend these actions.
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