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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,081
    ledvedderman said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mfc2006 said:

    I'm curious to hear what pro-Trump voters think about this bullshit.

    Well, he is doing what he said he would do if elected President.
    The ridiculous voting system that allows a person to win POTUS w/ less votes is stupid.
    You guys have eight years to fix that election nightmare process.
    Until then President Trump will continue to do what he promised.
    Just wondering, where do you call home? By the way you type it s definitely not the us.
    I think he's from Canada. I'm curious as to how he expects us to fix this election system. Surely the guy who lost the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes and his party are going to sign a new law to change the system where they win when they lose, right?
    yeah I figured that was pretty obvious.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,081
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mfc2006 said:

    I'm curious to hear what pro-Trump voters think about this bullshit.

    Well, he is doing what he said he would do if elected President.
    The ridiculous voting system that allows a person to win POTUS w/ less votes is stupid.
    You guys have eight years to fix that election nightmare process.
    Until then President Trump will continue to do what he promised.
    Just wondering, where do you call home? By the way you type it s definitely not the us.
    Canada.
    Not like that impersonator H2M who tries real hard to come off as an American. (He sounds like an American that wears a Canadian flag patch on their backpack :smile: )

    Why do you ask?

    I was just wondering. I really love Canada and it's people but whether you are republican/democrat you kind of grow tired of people ripping your own country.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    fuck him
    npr.org/2017/01/28/511996783/how-does-trumps-immigration-freeze-square-with-his-business-interests?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170128
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,014
    edited January 2017
    MeanMr.Mustard said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    This shit hit me so hard today. Who the fuck are we? How is this okay?

    Reading through refugee stories and now stories of people being sent back home after arriving at my airport today. Truly fucking heartbreaking. These are fucking people. Not pawns

    unfortunately as is the case everywhere good people pay the price for bad people, take a look at Germany and other parts of the U.K and their struggle with muslim immigrants is it any wonder other countries don't want them ?

    I don't know why I bother replying to you but we are not Germany. We have very different borders which unfortunately causes them significantly more immigration problems than us.

    Isn't getting a new screen name after getting banned also not allowed?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,014
    mfc2006 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    This shit hit me so hard today. Who the fuck are we? How is this okay?

    Reading through refugee stories and now stories of people being sent back home after arriving at my airport today. Truly fucking heartbreaking. These are fucking people. Not pawns

    Heartbreaking is a very appropriate word. This just doesn't seem real to me. We're ALL immigrants.
    Who's ancestors came here likely to escape religious persecution
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,486
    BS44325 said:

    For people who are still confused about Trump's support...which is clearly many of you...this should be read end to end. It explains so much.

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/23/donald-trump-first-president-turn-postmodernism/

    Looks like the author wasted a lot of time trying to present some sort of clever intellectualism in trump getting elected. Truth is relative? Thet's the stupidest thing I've read in awhile. The conclusion he comes up with is blaming liberals and people being "PC". He makes sweeping conclusions based on pop culture and anecdotal stories. At least the author writes well, to bad they wasted it on presenting their preformed conclusion.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    I'm curious, how many people here are planning their next family vacation to the countries on the ban list?

    I know it's early, but can I nominate this as the dumbest post of the day?

    ;)
    Seriously? I just booked a trip to Yemen for my wife and five kids. Much cheaper than Disney!!
    Haha, I stand corrected.
    do you want to join us? the more the merrier.
    I'm sure it's warmer there than here. So there's that.
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    edited January 2017
    mfc2006 said:

    Idiots. They should keep it in place and try to come up with an alternative if they want to change it so much. Fucking idiots.

    You understand it's completely unaffordable. Right? I do agree they should leave it in place as it would die its own death based on needed premium increases. That's definitely the more convenient political way of doing it (though they did back themselves into a corner by shouting repeal which should have happened 5 years ago). However, when trying to fix a problem you can see coming, you need to do something. And the only solution is throwing bad money after good. The ACA needs the majority of its provisions repealed or a proper solution can never be put in place. All you'd end up doing is patching the leaks on the Titanic.

    It was an expansion of Medicaid with money we don't have plain and simple. You need a solution that trims back mandated benefits, allows managed care companies to manage care (with oversight to prevent abuses) and focuses on preventive care and catastrophic coverage with incentives and disencetives for people taking responsibility for their own health.

    People have to realize that handing over free coverage with no parameters is simply not feasible in a country where we expect timely, quality care (realizing that is not always achieved either because, well, people are people).
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,224
    Amongst the countries banned why isn't Saudia Arabia on that list......Most of the 9/11 terrorist were from that country?

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    g under p said:

    Amongst the countries banned why isn't Saudia Arabia on that list......Most of the 9/11 terrorist were from that country?

    Peace

    I believe I read an article posted here that, by pure coincidence, the countries not named the President has interests or was having discussions about business interests there.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,081
    g under p said:

    Amongst the countries banned why isn't Saudia Arabia on that list......Most of the 9/11 terrorist were from that country?

    Peace

    That they were.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    g under p said:

    Amongst the countries banned why isn't Saudia Arabia on that list......Most of the 9/11 terrorist were from that country?

    Peace

    For the same reason we didn't go after them after 9/11..oil.
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,630
    ledvedderman said:

    g under p said:

    Amongst the countries banned why isn't Saudia Arabia on that list......Most of the 9/11 terrorist were from that country?

    Peace

    I believe I read an article posted here that, by pure coincidence, the countries not named the President has interests or was having discussions about business interests there.
    Conflict much?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_conflicts-342pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.a50c80d9628c
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    g under p said:

    Amongst the countries banned why isn't Saudia Arabia on that list......Most of the 9/11 terrorist were from that country?

    Peace

    That's a good point.
    The list is too long to include what countries should be included.
    President Trump just named a few to start.

  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2017
    Soon Hollywood and the entertainment news will report this latest TMZ scoop.
    I give it two days.
    http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/28/donald-trump-muslim-ban-oscar-winning-director-academy-awards/
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,014
    Homeland security tried to work with the administration on this executive order and was denied. How is this happening?

    Grow a fucking spine Congress
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Here is what's coming to American news tonight.
    https://twitter.com/CBNNews/status/825428472432566277
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Homeland security tried to work with the administration on this executive order and was denied. How is this happening?

    Grow a fucking spine Congress

    It's happening because President Trump was elected to do so.
    Period.
    .
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,630
    The time to have grown a spine was during the republican nominating and primary campaign season. Way too late I'm afraid.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    O beautiful for spacious skies,
    For amber waves of grain,
    For purple mountain majesties
    Above the fruited plain!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea!

    O beautiful for pilgrim feet
    Whose stern impassioned stress
    A thoroughfare of freedom beat
    Across the wilderness!
    America! America!
    God mend thine every flaw,
    Confirm thy soul in self-control,
    Thy liberty in law!

    O beautiful for heroes proved
    In liberating strife.
    Who more than self their country loved
    And mercy more than life!
    America! America!
    May God thy gold refine
    Till all success be nobleness
    And every gain divine!

    O beautiful for patriot dream
    That sees beyond the years
    Thine alabaster cities gleam
    Undimmed by human tears!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea!

    O beautiful for halcyon skies,
    For amber waves of grain,
    For purple mountain majesties
    Above the enameled plain!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till souls wax fair as earth and air
    And music-hearted sea!

    O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
    Whose stem impassioned stress
    A thoroughfare for freedom beat
    Across the wilderness!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till paths be wrought through
    wilds of thought
    By pilgrim foot and knee!

    O beautiful for glory-tale
    Of liberating strife
    When once and twice,
    for man's avail
    Men lavished precious life!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till selfish gain no longer stain
    The banner of the free!

    O beautiful for patriot dream
    That sees beyond the years
    Thine alabaster cities gleam
    Undimmed by human tears!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till nobler men keep once again
    Thy whiter jubilee!
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    this is more appropriate:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw2voJ-m2PU
  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    I pray to God they can stop all the terror groups quickly so this insanity can stop. The innocent people in the Middle East must feel so hopeless right now.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    LongestRoad said:

    I pray to God they can stop all the terror groups quickly so this insanity can stop. The innocent people in the Middle East must feel so hopeless right now.

    I'm sure terror will end within a week. Maybe two.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    dignin said:

    LongestRoad said:

    I pray to God they can stop all the terror groups quickly so this insanity can stop. The innocent people in the Middle East must feel so hopeless right now.

    I'm sure terror will end within a week. Maybe two.
    Wrong. We already solved terrorism when we started calling it "radical Islam" about 8 days ago. We're all so much safer.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    LongestRoad said:

    I pray to God they can stop all the terror groups quickly so this insanity can stop. The innocent people in the Middle East must feel so hopeless right now.

    90 days all terror will be gone.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    dignin said:

    LongestRoad said:

    I pray to God they can stop all the terror groups quickly so this insanity can stop. The innocent people in the Middle East must feel so hopeless right now.

    I'm sure terror will end within a week. Maybe two.
    you funny man
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,014
    People who fought with the US for 10 years are now being sent home to die...
  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    Cliffy6745 said:

    People who fought with the US for 10 years are now being sent home to die...

    that's f'cked up. They need to do something about that.
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