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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,277
    pjhawks said:

    Amongst the Ani said:

    Wobbie said:

    mfc2006 said:

    Wobbie said:

    whoopee! two steroids guy make the hall.

    you're missing a key word...alleged

    we all know what's up....Bonds is alleged, too. right now, I figure they have already put in at least 4-5 steroid guys.

    Rob, I'm with you. The only actual evidence Bonds used was the failed sample test that Big Papi and a decent portion of MLB failed. Baseball told the players the test wouldn't be used against them which should include the HOF. Bonds was eventually acquitted of the only charge from his trial he was convicted of. Mind you that charge was for obstruction for not fully answering a question about his trainer and other players, nothing to do with him. There is technically no more evidence against him than any of the other guys suspected from that era other than a book written with illegally obtained court documents. I hate when baseball says he was a roid user but other guys like Piazza are suspected. We all know he did them. I am not denying that but he is still technically a suspected user when it comes to MLB and the HOF.
    how about his giant head? look at his body from the World Series with the Pirates to his body when with the Giants. He belongs in the hall but if you don't think he was doing PEDs pass that bong you must be hitting on a regular basis.
    I've never said Barry didn't take roids. I just feel like pudge, bagwell, piazza, henderson and god-knows-who-else probably did, as well. In fact, bagwell is probably more of a "steroid guy" than Bonds in that steroids played a bigger role in him becoming a HOFer....and, as I've said many times. the "we know he DIDN"T take PED's" is no more valid than "we know he DID." I'm waiting for one of these guys to man up and drop a bombshell in his HOF acceptance speech.

    I wouldn't doubt Griffey at least tried them....
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,913
    Wobbie said:

    pjhawks said:

    Amongst the Ani said:

    Wobbie said:

    mfc2006 said:

    Wobbie said:

    whoopee! two steroids guy make the hall.

    you're missing a key word...alleged

    we all know what's up....Bonds is alleged, too. right now, I figure they have already put in at least 4-5 steroid guys.

    Rob, I'm with you. The only actual evidence Bonds used was the failed sample test that Big Papi and a decent portion of MLB failed. Baseball told the players the test wouldn't be used against them which should include the HOF. Bonds was eventually acquitted of the only charge from his trial he was convicted of. Mind you that charge was for obstruction for not fully answering a question about his trainer and other players, nothing to do with him. There is technically no more evidence against him than any of the other guys suspected from that era other than a book written with illegally obtained court documents. I hate when baseball says he was a roid user but other guys like Piazza are suspected. We all know he did them. I am not denying that but he is still technically a suspected user when it comes to MLB and the HOF.
    how about his giant head? look at his body from the World Series with the Pirates to his body when with the Giants. He belongs in the hall but if you don't think he was doing PEDs pass that bong you must be hitting on a regular basis.
    I've never said Barry didn't take roids. I just feel like pudge, bagwell, piazza, henderson and god-knows-who-else probably did, as well. In fact, bagwell is probably more of a "steroid guy" than Bonds in that steroids played a bigger role in him becoming a HOFer....and, as I've said many times. the "we know he DIDN"T take PED's" is no more valid than "we know he DID." I'm waiting for one of these guys to man up and drop a bombshell in his HOF acceptance speech.

    I wouldn't doubt Griffey at least tried them....
    agree. probably not even 10% of players in the 1990s didn't use Peds. it was just the norm of the day. the Hall has become a joke
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.

    I'd place the original 5 in.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,277
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.

    you already know my answer.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    The inaugural class of the AET Baseball Hall of Fame (so far):

    Albert Spalding
    Ty Cobb
    Babe Ruth
    Honus Wagner
    Christy Mathewson
    Walter Johnson
    Barry Bonds
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,913
    HesCalledDyer said:

    The inaugural class of the AET Baseball Hall of Fame (so far):

    Albert Spalding
    Ty Cobb
    Babe Ruth
    Honus Wagner
    Christy Mathewson
    Walter Johnson
    Barry Bonds

    Cy Young
    Hank Aaron
    Pete Rose
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    pjhawks said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    The inaugural class of the AET Baseball Hall of Fame (so far):

    Albert Spalding
    Ty Cobb
    Babe Ruth
    Honus Wagner
    Christy Mathewson
    Walter Johnson
    Barry Bonds

    Cy Young
    Hank Aaron
    Pete Rose
    Willie mays
    Mickey mantle
    Joe DiMaggio
    Ted Williams.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Amongst the Ani
    Amongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Randy Johnson.
    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
    Rob
    Seattle
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Stan the Man
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,236
    Old Hoss Radbourn :

    I always laugh my ass off looking at his stats. Same with Al Spalding.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/radboch01.shtml

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spaldal01.shtml

    I think Al's arm must've fell off and that's why he only pitched 6 full seasons, and just couldn't pitch anymore. But, he did have a down year in his 6th season>HAHAHAHA
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    To add a few:

    Jackie Robinson.
    Johnny Bench (my all time favourite).
    Rogers Hornsby.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited January 2017
    cutz said:

    Old Hoss Radbourn :

    I always laugh my ass off looking at his stats. Same with Al Spalding.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/radboch01.shtml

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spaldal01.shtml

    I think Al's arm must've fell off and that's why he only pitched 6 full seasons, and just couldn't pitch anymore. But, he did have a down year in his 6th season>HAHAHAHA

    Those 19th century stats are always fun to look at. Imagine a pitcher today with 300 wins and a career .313 average. Here we are thinking Bumgarner, Arrieta, & Syndergaard can rake!
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.

    Ricky Henderson on a good team by far the most effective player in history.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,913
    Ninetytworules said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.

    Ricky Henderson on a good team by far the most effective player in history.
    Ricky agrees that Ricky was the best lead off hitter of all time.
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    I'm going to be really glad when there's nothing left to say about juicing. :anguished:

    And anybody who doesn't think Pudge belongs in the HOF can kiss my ass.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,217
    pjhawks said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.

    Ricky Henderson on a good team by far the most effective player in history.
    Ricky agrees that Ricky was the best lead off hitter of all time.
    :lol:
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Ninetytworules said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.

    Ricky Henderson on a good team by far the most effective player in history.
    MOST effective
    By FAR
    In HISTORY

    I don't know about all that, but he was damn good & exciting to watch and definitely Hall worthy.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?

    Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.

    Ricky Henderson on a good team by far the most effective player in history.
    MOST effective
    By FAR
    In HISTORY

    I don't know about all that, but he was damn good & exciting to watch and definitely Hall worthy.
    What's his WAR?!? lol
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    I played baseball into college (D3) until my shoulder gave out and have coached for 12 years. One thing I still don't understand is slugging percentage! What the hell is it? Someone please explain it me.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......

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