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jeffbr said:

mace1229 said:

jeffbr said:

mace1229 said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

Yes, imagine that parents knowing what is best for their children.

Some parents don't want their kids vaccinated. They sure know what's best for their kids, eh?

People aren't experts just because they are parents and have maybe listened to a few opinions. The experts might know a little more than the average joe.

Tens of millions of parents believe that fossils are a trick by the devil to make the faithless doubt the bible...
Do they know what's best for their kids?

While I'm sure there's some wackos who believe that, I have never heard that taught, discussed or preached in any religious group. That number is much, much less than tens of millions who actually believe that. Maybe more like just tens.

1 in 10 Americans are Young Earth types. 1 in 10 Americans are dolts. That is more than 30 million, so tens of millions is accurate.

Just How Many Young-Earth Creationists Are There in the U.S.?
"In short, then, the hard core of young-earth creationists represents at most one in ten Americans—maybe about 31 million people—with another quarter favoring creationism but not necessarily committed to a young earth. One or two in ten seem firmly committed to evolution, and another third leans heavily toward evolution. About a third of the public in the middle are open to evolution, but feel strongly that a god or gods must have been involved somehow, and wind up in different camps depending how a given poll is worded."

"Young earth creationist" and believing that the devil planted fossils to trick humans are not even close to the same thing.
ouch.

Not even same to the close thing? Well, ALL of the latter are the former. So the question is, how many of the former are the latter? They are absolutely linked. One has to be a young earther to even entertain the notion of the devil and dinosaur bones. How else to young earthers explain dinosaurs? Oh, that's right. Many young earthers think that good Ol' Noah had dinosaurs on the Ark, and the dinos communed with man. That still falls into the dolt category. Ouch.

mace1229 said:

jeffbr said:

mace1229 said:

jeffbr said:

mace1229 said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

Yes, imagine that parents knowing what is best for their children.

Some parents don't want their kids vaccinated. They sure know what's best for their kids, eh?

People aren't experts just because they are parents and have maybe listened to a few opinions. The experts might know a little more than the average joe.

Tens of millions of parents believe that fossils are a trick by the devil to make the faithless doubt the bible...
Do they know what's best for their kids?

While I'm sure there's some wackos who believe that, I have never heard that taught, discussed or preached in any religious group. That number is much, much less than tens of millions who actually believe that. Maybe more like just tens.

1 in 10 Americans are Young Earth types. 1 in 10 Americans are dolts. That is more than 30 million, so tens of millions is accurate.

Just How Many Young-Earth Creationists Are There in the U.S.?
"In short, then, the hard core of young-earth creationists represents at most one in ten Americans—maybe about 31 million people—with another quarter favoring creationism but not necessarily committed to a young earth. One or two in ten seem firmly committed to evolution, and another third leans heavily toward evolution. About a third of the public in the middle are open to evolution, but feel strongly that a god or gods must have been involved somehow, and wind up in different camps depending how a given poll is worded."

"Young earth creationist" and believing that the devil planted fossils to trick humans are not even close to the same thing.
ouch.

Not even close to the same thing? Well, ALL of the latter are the former. So the question is, how many of the former are the latter? They are absolutely linked. One has to be a young earther to even entertain the notion of the devil and dinosaur bones. How else do young earthers explain dinosaurs? Oh, that's right. Many young earthers think that good Ol' Noah had dinosaurs on the Ark, and the dinos communed with man. That still falls into the dolt category. Ouch.

Edit for spelling and grammar.

My original comment, which seems to be ignored, is that even with your citations and your own words 10s of millions do not believe the devil planted fossils to trick humans. That claim is what I was responding to and calling out as being false and/or misleading. I did not defend either side, and in fact do believe the earth to be billions of years old.
Very true that there are a lot of "young earthers" and I won't dispute any of those numbers. And true that people who believe the devil story are young earthers. But they make up a very small percentage of that group, and to lump them together and one and the same is false.
That would the same logic to say everyone who owns a jeep has a driver's license. So anyone with a driver's license owns a jeep. Just doesn't work, you're claiming all young earthers believe that devil theory when even your own data suggests otherwise.
I saw a comment that was wrong, I pointed it out, and some seem to think it was a major burn to reference unrelated articles that don't even mention the devil theory mentioned in the original statement i was referring to.
I have never heard anyone seriously claim they believe Noah has dinosaurs on the ark either, you are referencing extremely small minorities in the young earthers to make your examples.

rgambs said:

Here, I will revise, but it's not less zany.

Tens of millions of people believe that the Earth is a few thousand years old and dinosaurs are a trick by the devil or that they lived, died, and were somehow fossilized in that time.
Do they know what's best for their kids?