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The Dolphins also bullied the shit out of some of their guys.CROJAM95 said:Seahawks won a sb, lost one due to their dumbass OC & Carroll. Also have made countless playoffs
Cardinals Lost a SB to PITT in Heartbreaking Fashion, were in NFC Championship last year
ST. Louis Played in a few SB after they won prior to my year 2000 talk
49ers were great under Harbaugh, made a SB & lost last second
JETS: 2 AFC Title games
BILLS:No playoffs in forever
Dolphins....They signed SUH? Congrats you won a headline during free agency
Your not even in the same universe Dude, AFC East is dog shit...the worst divison in 20 years
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Incognito...the poster child for jock doucheboys everywhereThirty Bills Unpaid said:
The Dolphins also bullied the shit out of some of their guys.CROJAM95 said:Seahawks won a sb, lost one due to their dumbass OC & Carroll. Also have made countless playoffs
Cardinals Lost a SB to PITT in Heartbreaking Fashion, were in NFC Championship last year
ST. Louis Played in a few SB after they won prior to my year 2000 talk
49ers were great under Harbaugh, made a SB & lost last second
JETS: 2 AFC Title games
BILLS:No playoffs in forever
Dolphins....They signed SUH? Congrats you won a headline during free agency
Your not even in the same universe Dude, AFC East is dog shit...the worst divison in 20 years
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Snap face. 11 AFC championship appearances, 6 straight. 6 Super Bowls winning 4. 6 games are played in their division, leaving 10 games to make a difference. 8 of your games are on the road. The Pats finished 11-5 and missed the playoffs. I guess the rest of the NFL sucks.SmallestOceans said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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brady is a system quarterback. halifax manipilates tom's balls.If I had known then what I know now...
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Him and Belichick were finished about 3 years ago, right Wob?Wobbie said:brady is a system quarterback. halifax manipilates tom's balls.
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Not trying to dispute you point about the AFC East but weren't the Seahawks still an AFC team when the Rams were in their SB's?CROJAM95 said:Seahawks won a sb, lost one due to their dumbass OC & Carroll. Also have made countless playoffs
Cardinals Lost a SB to PITT in Heartbreaking Fashion, were in NFC Championship last year
ST. Louis Played in a few SB after they won prior to my year 2000 talk
49ers were great under Harbaugh, made a SB & lost last second
JETS: 2 AFC Title games
BILLS:No playoffs in forever
Dolphins....They signed SUH? Congrats you won a headline during free agency
Your not even in the same universe Dude, AFC East is dog shit...the worst divison in 20 years
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Number of division championships since realignment:
Patriots - 14
Packers, Colts - 9 each
Seahawks - 8Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
AFC Super Bowl QB's since realignment:
Gannon, Brady, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Roethlisberger, Brady, Flacco, Manning, Brady, Manning.
Take those first 3 years away, Brady has been to fewer Super Bowls than Manning since 2006, and the Patriots are 1-2 in those Super Bowls. Roethlisberger has been to as many Super Bowls as Brady since 06 and also won one more in that time.
12 of the last 14 years have been represented by the same 3 QB's, but it's only Brady who has the cake walk, right?Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Most Super Bowl appearances by NFC since realignment:
Seahawks - 3
Panthers, Giants - 2 eachStar Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
I have to look up what year that happened, but yes.JK_Livin said:
Not trying to dispute you point about the AFC East but weren't the Seahawks still an AFC team when the Rams were in their SB's?CROJAM95 said:Seahawks won a sb, lost one due to their dumbass OC & Carroll. Also have made countless playoffs
Cardinals Lost a SB to PITT in Heartbreaking Fashion, were in NFC Championship last year
ST. Louis Played in a few SB after they won prior to my year 2000 talk
49ers were great under Harbaugh, made a SB & lost last second
JETS: 2 AFC Title games
BILLS:No playoffs in forever
Dolphins....They signed SUH? Congrats you won a headline during free agency
Your not even in the same universe Dude, AFC East is dog shit...the worst divison in 20 years
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Also I forgot about the Hasselbeck led Seahawks....they almost won that SB In Detroit as NFC Team
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Most lopsided officiated game I've ever seen in my lifetime. And the NFL has been making it up to Seattle ever since.CROJAM95 said:
I have to look up what year that happened, but yes.JK_Livin said:
Not trying to dispute you point about the AFC East but weren't the Seahawks still an AFC team when the Rams were in their SB's?CROJAM95 said:Seahawks won a sb, lost one due to their dumbass OC & Carroll. Also have made countless playoffs
Cardinals Lost a SB to PITT in Heartbreaking Fashion, were in NFC Championship last year
ST. Louis Played in a few SB after they won prior to my year 2000 talk
49ers were great under Harbaugh, made a SB & lost last second
JETS: 2 AFC Title games
BILLS:No playoffs in forever
Dolphins....They signed SUH? Congrats you won a headline during free agency
Your not even in the same universe Dude, AFC East is dog shit...the worst divison in 20 years
FACT
Also I forgot about the Hasselbeck led Seahawks....they almost won that SB In Detroit as NFC TeamStar Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Brutal officiating.HesCalledDyer said:
Most lopsided officiated game I've ever seen in my lifetime. And the NFL has been making it up to Seattle ever since.CROJAM95 said:
I have to look up what year that happened, but yes.JK_Livin said:
Not trying to dispute you point about the AFC East but weren't the Seahawks still an AFC team when the Rams were in their SB's?CROJAM95 said:Seahawks won a sb, lost one due to their dumbass OC & Carroll. Also have made countless playoffs
Cardinals Lost a SB to PITT in Heartbreaking Fashion, were in NFC Championship last year
ST. Louis Played in a few SB after they won prior to my year 2000 talk
49ers were great under Harbaugh, made a SB & lost last second
JETS: 2 AFC Title games
BILLS:No playoffs in forever
Dolphins....They signed SUH? Congrats you won a headline during free agency
Your not even in the same universe Dude, AFC East is dog shit...the worst divison in 20 years
FACT
Also I forgot about the Hasselbeck led Seahawks....they almost won that SB In Detroit as NFC Team
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The idea of the Patriots having a "cake walk" stems from the division they're in. And it's not just that they get to play the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets twice. It's that all they have to do to have a guaranteed home playoff game is finish with a better record than those three. Those three teams are garbage (I'm a Dolphins fan by the way) and don't even challenge the Pats. Compare that to the Steelers who have to duke it out nearly every year with the Ravens and/or Bengals. Peyton had it pretty good in the AFC south too. Minus a few good years from the Titans, his road to a 1st round playoff bye every year was similar to Brady's.HesCalledDyer said:AFC Super Bowl QB's since realignment:
Gannon, Brady, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Roethlisberger, Brady, Flacco, Manning, Brady, Manning.
Take those first 3 years away, Brady has been to fewer Super Bowls than Manning since 2006, and the Patriots are 1-2 in those Super Bowls. Roethlisberger has been to as many Super Bowls as Brady since 06 and also won one more in that time.
12 of the last 14 years have been represented by the same 3 QB's, but it's only Brady who has the cake walk, right?
That all said, the Patriots would be very successful in any division. They wouldn't win any of the other divisions 14 years in a row (I don't even acknowledge the Dolphin's fluke 2008 division title) like they have the AFC East. But would they win another division 8 or 9 times with wildcards in the other years? Yeah, they're that good.Post edited by Ledbetterman10 on2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Yeah, I totally get that. My problem is with Earl Thomas' statement. The NFC West is one of the easiest divisions in football; the Seahawks path to the playoffs hasn't proven to be too difficult since realignment. If the Patriots were in the NFC West, maybe they'd have one or two fewer division titles, but they'd still probably have the most over the last 14 years.Ledbetterman10 said:
The idea of the Patriots having a "cake walk" stems from the division they're in. And it's not just that they get to play the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets twice. It's that all they have to do to have a guaranteed home playoff game is finish with a better record than those three. Those three teams are garbage (I'm a Dolphins fan by the way) and don't even challenge the Pats. Compare that to the Steelers who have to duke it out nearly every year with the Ravens and/or Bengals. Peyton had it pretty good in the AFC south too. Minus a few good years from the Titans, his road to a 1st round playoff bye every year was similar to Brady's.HesCalledDyer said:AFC Super Bowl QB's since realignment:
Gannon, Brady, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Roethlisberger, Brady, Flacco, Manning, Brady, Manning.
Take those first 3 years away, Brady has been to fewer Super Bowls than Manning since 2006, and the Patriots are 1-2 in those Super Bowls. Roethlisberger has been to as many Super Bowls as Brady since 06 and also won one more in that time.
12 of the last 14 years have been represented by the same 3 QB's, but it's only Brady who has the cake walk, right?
That all said, the Patriots would be very successful in any division. They wouldn't win any of the other divisions 14 years in a row (I don't even acknowledge the Dolphin's fluke 2008 division title) like they have the AFC East. But would they win another division 8 or 9 times with wildcards in the other years? Yeah, they're that good.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
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Yeah I agree that Thomas is way off on this. Since the 2002 realignment, the NFC West has been the worst. Those Hasselbeck-led Seahawk teams had no competition. The Cardinals had a few respectable seasons and so did the 49ers with Harbaugh, but there's hardly enough of a discrepancy between the AFC East and NFC West for Thomas to complain. And I've never seen the Patriots win the AFC East with SEVEN fucking wins.HesCalledDyer said:
Yeah, I totally get that. My problem is with Earl Thomas' statement. The NFC West is one of the easiest divisions in football; the Seahawks path to the playoffs hasn't proven to be too difficult since realignment. If the Patriots were in the NFC West, maybe they'd have one or two fewer division titles, but they'd still probably have the most over the last 14 years.Ledbetterman10 said:
The idea of the Patriots having a "cake walk" stems from the division they're in. And it's not just that they get to play the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets twice. It's that all they have to do to have a guaranteed home playoff game is finish with a better record than those three. Those three teams are garbage (I'm a Dolphins fan by the way) and don't even challenge the Pats. Compare that to the Steelers who have to duke it out nearly every year with the Ravens and/or Bengals. Peyton had it pretty good in the AFC south too. Minus a few good years from the Titans, his road to a 1st round playoff bye every year was similar to Brady's.HesCalledDyer said:AFC Super Bowl QB's since realignment:
Gannon, Brady, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Roethlisberger, Brady, Flacco, Manning, Brady, Manning.
Take those first 3 years away, Brady has been to fewer Super Bowls than Manning since 2006, and the Patriots are 1-2 in those Super Bowls. Roethlisberger has been to as many Super Bowls as Brady since 06 and also won one more in that time.
12 of the last 14 years have been represented by the same 3 QB's, but it's only Brady who has the cake walk, right?
That all said, the Patriots would be very successful in any division. They wouldn't win any of the other divisions 14 years in a row (I don't even acknowledge the Dolphin's fluke 2008 division title) like they have the AFC East. But would they win another division 8 or 9 times with wildcards in the other years? Yeah, they're that good.
My beloved Miami Dolphins have made the playoffs twice in the past fourteen years. It's not a coincidence that in both of those seasons they played the NFC West. The Ravens were way better than the Dolphins this year but finished 8-8. Well, they played the NFC East. So not only is the NFC West an easy division to win, it's one you want to play if you're in a different division.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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All very excellent points!Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I agree that Thomas is way off on this. Since the 2002 realignment, the NFC West has been the worst. Those Hasselbeck-led Seahawk teams had no competition. The Cardinals had a few respectable seasons and so did the 49ers with Harbaugh, but there's hardly enough of a discrepancy between the AFC East and NFC West for Thomas to complain. And I've never seen the Patriots win the AFC East with SEVEN fucking wins.HesCalledDyer said:
Yeah, I totally get that. My problem is with Earl Thomas' statement. The NFC West is one of the easiest divisions in football; the Seahawks path to the playoffs hasn't proven to be too difficult since realignment. If the Patriots were in the NFC West, maybe they'd have one or two fewer division titles, but they'd still probably have the most over the last 14 years.Ledbetterman10 said:
The idea of the Patriots having a "cake walk" stems from the division they're in. And it's not just that they get to play the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets twice. It's that all they have to do to have a guaranteed home playoff game is finish with a better record than those three. Those three teams are garbage (I'm a Dolphins fan by the way) and don't even challenge the Pats. Compare that to the Steelers who have to duke it out nearly every year with the Ravens and/or Bengals. Peyton had it pretty good in the AFC south too. Minus a few good years from the Titans, his road to a 1st round playoff bye every year was similar to Brady's.HesCalledDyer said:AFC Super Bowl QB's since realignment:
Gannon, Brady, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Roethlisberger, Brady, Flacco, Manning, Brady, Manning.
Take those first 3 years away, Brady has been to fewer Super Bowls than Manning since 2006, and the Patriots are 1-2 in those Super Bowls. Roethlisberger has been to as many Super Bowls as Brady since 06 and also won one more in that time.
12 of the last 14 years have been represented by the same 3 QB's, but it's only Brady who has the cake walk, right?
That all said, the Patriots would be very successful in any division. They wouldn't win any of the other divisions 14 years in a row (I don't even acknowledge the Dolphin's fluke 2008 division title) like they have the AFC East. But would they win another division 8 or 9 times with wildcards in the other years? Yeah, they're that good.
My beloved Miami Dolphins have made the playoffs twice in the past fourteen years. It's not a coincidence that in both of those seasons they played the NFC West. The Ravens were way better than the Dolphins this year but finished 8-8. Well, they played the NFC East. So not only is the NFC West an easy division to win, it's one you want to play if you're in a different division.
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