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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,413
    If he’s back in three weeks we may have already seen the best football he’ll ever play. 
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,261
    At this point they have 4 games before their bye. No way he should play until after the bye.
    The extra couple weeks could make a huge difference.
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,238
    Glad he dodged a bullet, would have been a shame. 
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Young QB's need to understand they are not the toughest dudes on the field.  This injury was a fluke but I think we all saw this coming.  He needs to learn to play smarter if he doesn't want to end up retiring before turning 30 like Andrew Luck.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Also, if Mahomes is throwing a football before turkey day, I'm assuming Andy Reid has hired a red priestess of the Lord of Light to his medical staff.  Watch out for those demon babies ...
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    Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,503
    I'll lose my mind if he's rushed back too soon.  The Chiefs screwed that up with Justin Houston at the end of 2015 and he was never right the three years after that.  Hopefully they learned their lesson.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,677
    The Walrus calling that play, up 10-6 against a totally crap team is why the Chiefs won’t win a SB with him. Take your 3 points, call a run or pass play but to risk your lights out QB for, what at the time was a meaningless first down, is just incompetent. What’s the matter Andy, no faith in your D or O with plenty of time on the clock?
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,667
    The Walrus.  :lol:
    Poor Andy.
    I prefer 'Kool Aid Man'
    I like Andy.  Happy he wasn't the coach of my team when they were good because he doesn't bring home the bacon but I like him anyway.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,677
    F Me In The Brain said:
    The Walrus.  :lol:
    Poor Andy.
    I prefer 'Kool Aid Man'
    I like Andy.  Happy he wasn't the coach of my team when they were good because he doesn't bring home the bacon but I like him anyway.

    I like him too and the Chiefs with Mahomes. But the Walrus has a way of making some questionable calls that haunt them for the rest of the game, season, career. Running Mahomes in that situation is one of them.
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    Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,503
    Running the highest percentage play on 4th and 1 is a bad play call?  How often do QBs actually get hurt on QB sneaks?  It was a freak injury.  No way Reid should be blamed for this.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,677
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Running the highest percentage play on 4th and 1 is a bad play call?  How often do QBs actually get hurt on QB sneaks?  It was a freak injury.  No way Reid should be blamed for this.
    Previous ankle injury, early in a game where you’re up 4 with what, three quarters to play, against one of the worst teams in the nfl? The Walrus absolutely deserves blame. Put 3 on the board and save your QB for the playoffs. Or at least in a game that means something.
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,524
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Poncier said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Patrick Mahomes is literally almost too good to be true for me.  I've waited through the Bono era.

    Ha, or you could go in this direction.



    THAT guy was boning Cher when she was incredibly hot.....50 years ago.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,677
    Was that during your IX or X Epoch, Wob?
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,524
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Was that during your IX or X Epoch, Wob?

    as if you’re some spring chicken :chicken:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,677
    Wobbie said:
    Halifax2TheMax said: I
    Was that during your IX or X Epoch, Wob?

    as if you’re some spring chicken :chicken:
    Bok, bok, bok! Chicken Man! Bok, bok!
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,238
    Wobbie said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Poncier said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Patrick Mahomes is literally almost too good to be true for me.  I've waited through the Bono era.

    Ha, or you could go in this direction.



    THAT guy was boning Cher when she was incredibly hot.....50 years ago.
    Nah

    i think u mean pre teen Anthony Kiedis
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    JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,364
    It's football. Shit happens. Injuries are part of the game. I'm sure Brady isn't worried when he sneaks the ball.
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    Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,503
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Running the highest percentage play on 4th and 1 is a bad play call?  How often do QBs actually get hurt on QB sneaks?  It was a freak injury.  No way Reid should be blamed for this.
    Previous ankle injury, early in a game where you’re up 4 with what, three quarters to play, against one of the worst teams in the nfl? The Walrus absolutely deserves blame. Put 3 on the board and save your QB for the playoffs. Or at least in a game that means something.
    What game are you talking about?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,677
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    cdthomas1981 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Running the highest percentage play on 4th and 1 is a bad play call?  How often do QBs actually get hurt on QB sneaks?  It was a freak injury.  No way Reid should be blamed for this.
    Previous ankle injury, early in a game where you’re up 4 with what, three quarters to play, against one of the worst teams in the nfl? The Walrus absolutely deserves blame. Put 3 on the board and save your QB for the playoffs. Or at least in a game that means something.
    What game are you talking about?
    Wasn’t Mahomes ankle injured on a sack the week previous against Indy? And wasn’t it during the Denver game that he hurt his knee? Anyway, maybe it was just before the half? Regardless, your QB got hurt in a game they won 30-6. Could have been a 26-6 win and a healthy QB. You know opposing D’s will pressure him from the week side of his knee, forcing, eventually, a shortened career. For what? A first down in a meaningless game in a meaningless situation.

    Sorry, Texans’ game on the ankle injury? Got up gimpy.
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    Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,503
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Running the highest percentage play on 4th and 1 is a bad play call?  How often do QBs actually get hurt on QB sneaks?  It was a freak injury.  No way Reid should be blamed for this.
    Previous ankle injury, early in a game where you’re up 4 with what, three quarters to play, against one of the worst teams in the nfl? The Walrus absolutely deserves blame. Put 3 on the board and save your QB for the playoffs. Or at least in a game that means something.
    What game are you talking about?
    Wasn’t Mahomes ankle injured on a sack the week previous against Indy? And wasn’t it during the Denver game that he hurt his knee? Anyway, maybe it was just before the half? Regardless, your QB got hurt in a game they won 30-6. Could have been a 26-6 win and a healthy QB. You know opposing D’s will pressure him from the week side of his knee, forcing, eventually, a shortened career. For what? A first down in a meaningless game in a meaningless situation.

    Sorry, Texans’ game on the ankle injury? Got up gimpy.
    Every time you step on the football field, you run the risk of getting hurt.  Pat hurt his ankle in Week 1 and did aggravate it against Indy and Houston.  Every game in the NFL matters, especially when you've got Super Bowl aspirations.  There are no meaningless games and they needed a win after losing two-in-a-row.  Indianapolis is not one of the worst teams in the NFL and Houston is now a legitimate contender for a bye in the AFC.  Sitting out your best player, who was able to play and drastically elevates your chances of winning is not a bad decision.  Shit happens in the NFL and what happened on that QB sneak was purely coincidental and could have happened to any other QB in that situation.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,677
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Running the highest percentage play on 4th and 1 is a bad play call?  How often do QBs actually get hurt on QB sneaks?  It was a freak injury.  No way Reid should be blamed for this.
    Previous ankle injury, early in a game where you’re up 4 with what, three quarters to play, against one of the worst teams in the nfl? The Walrus absolutely deserves blame. Put 3 on the board and save your QB for the playoffs. Or at least in a game that means something.
    What game are you talking about?
    Wasn’t Mahomes ankle injured on a sack the week previous against Indy? And wasn’t it during the Denver game that he hurt his knee? Anyway, maybe it was just before the half? Regardless, your QB got hurt in a game they won 30-6. Could have been a 26-6 win and a healthy QB. You know opposing D’s will pressure him from the week side of his knee, forcing, eventually, a shortened career. For what? A first down in a meaningless game in a meaningless situation.

    Sorry, Texans’ game on the ankle injury? Got up gimpy.
    Every time you step on the football field, you run the risk of getting hurt.  Pat hurt his ankle in Week 1 and did aggravate it against Indy and Houston.  Every game in the NFL matters, especially when you've got Super Bowl aspirations.  There are no meaningless games and they needed a win after losing two-in-a-row.  Indianapolis is not one of the worst teams in the NFL and Houston is now a legitimate contender for a bye in the AFC.  Sitting out your best player, who was able to play and drastically elevates your chances of winning is not a bad decision.  Shit happens in the NFL and what happened on that QB sneak was purely coincidental and could have happened to any other QB in that situation.
    But it was against Denver with a full half of football to play in a game where you end up winning 30-6. Go up 7 at the half. In that particular situation, in that game, against that opponent, it wasn’t worth the risk. The SB quest is a marathon, not a sprint. And it’s decisions like that that keep QBs like Mahomes from the SB, never mind winning one. In a must win division game toward the end of the season, down one or two, I get it. There in that instance, dumb call. I’m not arguing Mahomes should have sat against Indy or Houston. I’m arguing the QB sneak at that point of the game against Denver was a dumb call. The pats’ Relentless D will exploit that injury. As will the Raiders and against them, better hope Mahomes doesn’t end up on the bottom of a pile of tangled bodies.
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    Then every time a QB sneak is called, by ANY HEAD COACH, I expect you to be there criticizing them (cough, Bill Belechick).  How were the Chiefs supposed to know they were going to win that game 30-6?  Have you seen their defense?  I’m hoping Thursday night wasn’t an anomaly, but they were an absolute sieve in giving up yards and points.  You have one of the best offenses in NFL history and you suggest settling for a FG is a good idea?  Your winning percentage goes up significantly if you go for it on 4th and 1 in that situation.  Suggesting the Chiefs and Andy Reid went into that game believing they were going to blow out the Broncos is just flat out lunacy.  They were up 17-3 on Houston last week in the first quarter and blew that lead by the half.  There was no reason for them to take their foot off the gas with their offense against Denver, and nothing wrong with that play call.   
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    cdthomas1981 said:
    Then every time a QB sneak is called, by ANY HEAD COACH, I expect you to be there criticizing them (cough, Bill Belechick).  How were the Chiefs supposed to know they were going to win that game 30-6?  Have you seen their defense?  I’m hoping Thursday night wasn’t an anomaly, but they were an absolute sieve in giving up yards and points.  You have one of the best offenses in NFL history and you suggest settling for a FG is a good idea?  Your winning percentage goes up significantly if you go for it on 4th and 1 in that situation.  Suggesting the Chiefs and Andy Reid went into that game believing they were going to blow out the Broncos is just flat out lunacy.  They were up 17-3 on Houston last week in the first quarter and blew that lead by the half.  There was no reason for them to take their foot off the gas with their offense against Denver, and nothing wrong with that play call.   
    Well, I hope it was worth your QB missing the SB then. Only 7 other teams have a worse offense than Denver and their D gives up 295 yards a game, almost 200 of it in passing. And yes, I don’t like seeing TB12 run the ball. Ever.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Then every time a QB sneak is called, by ANY HEAD COACH, I expect you to be there criticizing them (cough, Bill Belechick).  How were the Chiefs supposed to know they were going to win that game 30-6?  Have you seen their defense?  I’m hoping Thursday night wasn’t an anomaly, but they were an absolute sieve in giving up yards and points.  You have one of the best offenses in NFL history and you suggest settling for a FG is a good idea?  Your winning percentage goes up significantly if you go for it on 4th and 1 in that situation.  Suggesting the Chiefs and Andy Reid went into that game believing they were going to blow out the Broncos is just flat out lunacy.  They were up 17-3 on Houston last week in the first quarter and blew that lead by the half.  There was no reason for them to take their foot off the gas with their offense against Denver, and nothing wrong with that play call.   
    Well, I hope it was worth your QB missing the SB then. Only 7 other teams have a worse offense than Denver and their D gives up 295 yards a game, almost 200 of it in passing. And yes, I don’t like seeing TB12 run the ball. Ever.
    They have to keep winning to keep pace with NE and have a chance at the Super Bowl anyway.  If this season is a wash, so be it.  I’m completely down with protecting Mahomes, but I don’t believe getting overly conservative is the way to do it.  Plus, they were getting killed in TOP by IND and HOU.  They went into that game believing they had to maximize every possession, given how well the Colts and Texans kept the Chiefs offense on the sideline.  
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    Chiefs will still win their division, though a bye suddenly looks in jeopardy. If it were me I'd shelf Mahomes till at east after the bye as I said earlier. Have him healthy for the stretch run and playoffs.
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    I’d be fine if he sat the rest of the year if he needs it.  They cannot rush him back under any circumstance.  If they don’t get to the Super Bowl this year, then they’ll have another shot next year and the year after that, etc.
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    I promise after this I’ll get off of my soapbox here, this topic just strikes a nerve with me.  I don’t believe Andy Reid is at fault for any of his players getting hurt.  Injuries happen in the NFL, at any position, at any given time.  The strength of a good HC is overcoming injuries and maximizing the strengths of his team.  They have the best passing offense in the NFL.  Mahomes could have had as bad, if not a worse, knee injury if he trips over his offensive line’s feet while taking a snap under center while trying to hand it off to Shady McCoy.  It was a freak injury and I’m convinced of that.  I guess Sean Payton is an idiot for getting Drew Brees hurt too.  
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    cdthomas1981 said:
    I promise after this I’ll get off of my soapbox here, this topic just strikes a nerve with me.  I don’t believe Andy Reid is at fault for any of his players getting hurt.  Injuries happen in the NFL, at any position, at any given time.  The strength of a good HC is overcoming injuries and maximizing the strengths of his team.  They have the best passing offense in the NFL.  Mahomes could have had as bad, if not a worse, knee injury if he trips over his offensive line’s feet while taking a snap under center while trying to hand it off to Shady McCoy.  It was a freak injury and I’m convinced of that.  I guess Sean Payton is an idiot for getting Drew Brees hurt too.  
    The guy you’re arguing with doesn’t even know the name of his team’s backup quarterback. 

    I’m not the biggest Reid fan but to blame him for his qb getting hurt on a sneak is ridiculous. Nobody ever gets hurt on qb sneaks. 
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    The Juggler said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    I promise after this I’ll get off of my soapbox here, this topic just strikes a nerve with me.  I don’t believe Andy Reid is at fault for any of his players getting hurt.  Injuries happen in the NFL, at any position, at any given time.  The strength of a good HC is overcoming injuries and maximizing the strengths of his team.  They have the best passing offense in the NFL.  Mahomes could have had as bad, if not a worse, knee injury if he trips over his offensive line’s feet while taking a snap under center while trying to hand it off to Shady McCoy.  It was a freak injury and I’m convinced of that.  I guess Sean Payton is an idiot for getting Drew Brees hurt too.  
    The guy you’re arguing with doesn’t even know the name of his team’s backup quarterback. 

    I’m not the biggest Reid fan but to blame him for his qb getting hurt on a sneak is ridiculous. Nobody ever gets hurt on qb sneaks. 

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