President Elect Trump

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in all seriousness, i am somewhat disturbed at the misspelling of 'unprecedented'. i'm pretty sure that would have been a word that would have come up in a grade school spelling test or some required reading material. the word 'unpresidented' has never been published. How do you come up with that spelling? Only one way i can think of...you never read the word or read it so few times to not notice the 'ce' in the middle makes it unique enough to where 'precedent' and 'president' are not really close to the same words in appearance. just an observation. there are other tweets

I think it's a hilarious tweet mistake coming from the PE, but people are making wayyyyy too much about it. it's a simple spelling mistake. I highly doubt he actually thought the word was "unpresidented". who knows, maybe he did it on purpose to troll everyone who follows him.

i'd agree except for it comes from someone who thinks/says he's smart. i'm not saying that knowing how to spell well is a differentiating factor, but it does to me say that a person is not well read. i find that to be not only disturbing but dangerous.

i suppose i can just buy into the illusion that T. is smart and every dumb thing he says/does is just another joke on those who hate him. I guess that's what I had to do to get used to GWB. I guess that turned out ok.

it doesn't mean he's not well read. all it means is he doesn't give a shit about spelling mistakes on social media. at this level, he should, but he doesn't give a shit about much, so why would spelling be at the top of the list, or on the list at all?

Marie Brenner's 1990 profile of Donald Trump for Vanity Fair captured the real estate mogul in turmoil, as he struggled to hold onto his empire amid a nasty divorce fight. It's a juicy piece, but one anecdote in particular stands out: that Trump owned a copy of Adolf Hitler's speeches and allegedly read them for inspiration:
"Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist."

Yeah, cause Ivana and her lawyer had zero to gain from that claim.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

tell me why you think this matters.

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vaggar99 said:

in all seriousness, i am somewhat disturbed at the misspelling of 'unprecedented'. i'm pretty sure that would have been a word that would have come up in a grade school spelling test or some required reading material. the word 'unpresidented' has never been published. How do you come up with that spelling? Only one way i can think of...you never read the word or read it so few times to not notice the 'ce' in the middle makes it unique enough to where 'precedent' and 'president' are not really close to the same words in appearance. just an observation. there are other tweets

I think it's a hilarious tweet mistake coming from the PE, but people are making wayyyyy too much about it. it's a simple spelling mistake. I highly doubt he actually thought the word was "unpresidented". who knows, maybe he did it on purpose to troll everyone who follows him.

i'd agree except for it comes from someone who thinks/says he's smart. i'm not saying that knowing how to spell well is a differentiating factor, but it does to me say that a person is not well read. i find that to be not only disturbing but dangerous.

i suppose i can just buy into the illusion that T. is smart and every dumb thing he says/does is just another joke on those who hate him. I guess that's what I had to do to get used to GWB. I guess that turned out ok.

it doesn't mean he's not well read. all it means is he doesn't give a shit about spelling mistakes on social media. at this level, he should, but he doesn't give a shit about much, so why would spelling be at the top of the list, or on the list at all?

Marie Brenner's 1990 profile of Donald Trump for Vanity Fair captured the real estate mogul in turmoil, as he struggled to hold onto his empire amid a nasty divorce fight. It's a juicy piece, but one anecdote in particular stands out: that Trump owned a copy of Adolf Hitler's speeches and allegedly read them for inspiration:
"Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist."

Yeah, cause Ivana and her lawyer had zero to gain from that claim.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

tell me why you think this matters.

Because he mistakenly thought his 'friend' was Jewish? Because his friend thought trump would find speeches by a fascist interesting?

much ado about nothing. I have very well-read, intelligent, liberal friends who have all read Mein Kampf, for historical interest and nothing more. I see no difference between that and a book about his speeches. his (at the time) soon-to-be ex wife claiming he read them for inspiration means zero and is unsubstantiated.

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vaggar99 said:

in all seriousness, i am somewhat disturbed at the misspelling of 'unprecedented'. i'm pretty sure that would have been a word that would have come up in a grade school spelling test or some required reading material. the word 'unpresidented' has never been published. How do you come up with that spelling? Only one way i can think of...you never read the word or read it so few times to not notice the 'ce' in the middle makes it unique enough to where 'precedent' and 'president' are not really close to the same words in appearance. just an observation. there are other tweets

I think it's a hilarious tweet mistake coming from the PE, but people are making wayyyyy too much about it. it's a simple spelling mistake. I highly doubt he actually thought the word was "unpresidented". who knows, maybe he did it on purpose to troll everyone who follows him.

i'd agree except for it comes from someone who thinks/says he's smart. i'm not saying that knowing how to spell well is a differentiating factor, but it does to me say that a person is not well read. i find that to be not only disturbing but dangerous.

i suppose i can just buy into the illusion that T. is smart and every dumb thing he says/does is just another joke on those who hate him. I guess that's what I had to do to get used to GWB. I guess that turned out ok.

it doesn't mean he's not well read. all it means is he doesn't give a shit about spelling mistakes on social media. at this level, he should, but he doesn't give a shit about much, so why would spelling be at the top of the list, or on the list at all?

Marie Brenner's 1990 profile of Donald Trump for Vanity Fair captured the real estate mogul in turmoil, as he struggled to hold onto his empire amid a nasty divorce fight. It's a juicy piece, but one anecdote in particular stands out: that Trump owned a copy of Adolf Hitler's speeches and allegedly read them for inspiration:
"Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist."

Yeah, cause Ivana and her lawyer had zero to gain from that claim.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

tell me why you think this matters.

Because he mistakenly thought his 'friend' was Jewish? Because his friend thought trump would find speeches by a fascist interesting?

much ado about nothing. I have very well-read, intelligent, liberal friends who have all read Mein Kampf, for historical interest and nothing more. I see no difference between that and a book about his speeches. his (at the time) soon-to-be ex wife claiming he read them for inspiration means zero and is unsubstantiated.

It's something because trump isn't well read or intelligent. He doesn't have a natural curiosity about history or human dynamics. He's an authoritarian demagogue. That's why I see his interest in Hitler differently.

not sure you can claim to know he doesn't have a "natural curiosity about history or human dynamics"?

as much as we have all joked about him being an idiot, I don't think you get to his level of wealth and success without being intelligent. it's just not possible. at the very least, he knew exactly who to surround himself with, which is one of the most important things you can do in business. I don't care how many failures he's had. all millionaires/billionaires have. his are just more public because he chose to write a book about his successes, which inevitibly will cause people to shine a light on your failures. I don't care about his loan from his dad. he turned 1 million into hundreds of millions. you don't do that by luck.

look, I'm not defending him. I just think that all of these red herrings that people are throwing out against him are hurting their cause of what the real issues are/might be. it's no different than all the hillary clinton email bullshit.

Jason P said:

Trumps daughter and son in law are Jewish ... is everyone aware of this?

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vaggar99 said:

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in all seriousness, i am somewhat disturbed at the misspelling of 'unprecedented'. i'm pretty sure that would have been a word that would have come up in a grade school spelling test or some required reading material. the word 'unpresidented' has never been published. How do you come up with that spelling? Only one way i can think of...you never read the word or read it so few times to not notice the 'ce' in the middle makes it unique enough to where 'precedent' and 'president' are not really close to the same words in appearance. just an observation. there are other tweets

I think it's a hilarious tweet mistake coming from the PE, but people are making wayyyyy too much about it. it's a simple spelling mistake. I highly doubt he actually thought the word was "unpresidented". who knows, maybe he did it on purpose to troll everyone who follows him.

i'd agree except for it comes from someone who thinks/says he's smart. i'm not saying that knowing how to spell well is a differentiating factor, but it does to me say that a person is not well read. i find that to be not only disturbing but dangerous.

i suppose i can just buy into the illusion that T. is smart and every dumb thing he says/does is just another joke on those who hate him. I guess that's what I had to do to get used to GWB. I guess that turned out ok.

it doesn't mean he's not well read. all it means is he doesn't give a shit about spelling mistakes on social media. at this level, he should, but he doesn't give a shit about much, so why would spelling be at the top of the list, or on the list at all?

Marie Brenner's 1990 profile of Donald Trump for Vanity Fair captured the real estate mogul in turmoil, as he struggled to hold onto his empire amid a nasty divorce fight. It's a juicy piece, but one anecdote in particular stands out: that Trump owned a copy of Adolf Hitler's speeches and allegedly read them for inspiration:
"Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist."

Yeah, cause Ivana and her lawyer had zero to gain from that claim.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

tell me why you think this matters.

Because he mistakenly thought his 'friend' was Jewish? Because his friend thought trump would find speeches by a fascist interesting?

much ado about nothing. I have very well-read, intelligent, liberal friends who have all read Mein Kampf, for historical interest and nothing more. I see no difference between that and a book about his speeches. his (at the time) soon-to-be ex wife claiming he read them for inspiration means zero and is unsubstantiated.

It's something because trump isn't well read or intelligent. He doesn't have a natural curiosity about history or human dynamics. He's an authoritarian demagogue. That's why I see his interest in Hitler differently.

not sure you can claim to know he doesn't have a "natural curiosity about history or human dynamics"?

as much as we have all joked about him being an idiot, I don't think you get to his level of wealth and success without being intelligent. it's just not possible. at the very least, he knew exactly who to surround himself with, which is one of the most important things you can do in business. I don't care how many failures he's had. all millionaires/billionaires have. his are just more public because he chose to write a book about his successes, which inevitibly will cause people to shine a light on your failures. I don't care about his loan from his dad. he turned 1 million into hundreds of millions. you don't do that by luck.

look, I'm not defending him. I just think that all of these red herrings that people are throwing out against him are hurting their cause of what the real issues are/might be. it's no different than all the hillary clinton email bullshit.

This isn't anything at all like Clinton's emails. I'm talking about trump's personality based on what he says and his actions as well as policy. He may be knowledgable about his area of business, that's fine. I recommend people look at the scope of what he's put out there, and not try to dilute it, normalize it, or minimize it. These are the real issues.

I don't find a book he was given by a friend whose religion he mistook and may or may not have read two decades ago a "real issue".

I find it interesting that someone who uses techniques to manipulate masses of people in the same manner that dictators have in the past an issue.

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Trumps daughter and son in law are Jewish ... is everyone aware of this?

Yeah. What do you make of that?

I would presume from that information that his favorite breakfast cereal is Cookie Crisp. That's the only conclusion.

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Jason P said:

Trumps daughter and son in law are Jewish ... is everyone aware of this?

Yeah. What do you make of that?

I would presume from that information that his favorite breakfast cereal is Cookie Crisp. That's the only conclusion.

Okay. I just figured there was something behind asking. Figures he likes Cookie Crisp. That stuff's garbage.

How dare you!

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in all seriousness, i am somewhat disturbed at the misspelling of 'unprecedented'. i'm pretty sure that would have been a word that would have come up in a grade school spelling test or some required reading material. the word 'unpresidented' has never been published. How do you come up with that spelling? Only one way i can think of...you never read the word or read it so few times to not notice the 'ce' in the middle makes it unique enough to where 'precedent' and 'president' are not really close to the same words in appearance. just an observation. there are other tweets

I think it's a hilarious tweet mistake coming from the PE, but people are making wayyyyy too much about it. it's a simple spelling mistake. I highly doubt he actually thought the word was "unpresidented". who knows, maybe he did it on purpose to troll everyone who follows him.

i'd agree except for it comes from someone who thinks/says he's smart. i'm not saying that knowing how to spell well is a differentiating factor, but it does to me say that a person is not well read. i find that to be not only disturbing but dangerous.

i suppose i can just buy into the illusion that T. is smart and every dumb thing he says/does is just another joke on those who hate him. I guess that's what I had to do to get used to GWB. I guess that turned out ok.

it doesn't mean he's not well read. all it means is he doesn't give a shit about spelling mistakes on social media. at this level, he should, but he doesn't give a shit about much, so why would spelling be at the top of the list, or on the list at all?

Marie Brenner's 1990 profile of Donald Trump for Vanity Fair captured the real estate mogul in turmoil, as he struggled to hold onto his empire amid a nasty divorce fight. It's a juicy piece, but one anecdote in particular stands out: that Trump owned a copy of Adolf Hitler's speeches and allegedly read them for inspiration:
"Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist."

Yeah, cause Ivana and her lawyer had zero to gain from that claim.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

tell me why you think this matters.

Because he mistakenly thought his 'friend' was Jewish? Because his friend thought trump would find speeches by a fascist interesting?

much ado about nothing. I have very well-read, intelligent, liberal friends who have all read Mein Kampf, for historical interest and nothing more. I see no difference between that and a book about his speeches. his (at the time) soon-to-be ex wife claiming he read them for inspiration means zero and is unsubstantiated.

It's something because trump isn't well read or intelligent. He doesn't have a natural curiosity about history or human dynamics. He's an authoritarian demagogue. That's why I see his interest in Hitler differently.

not sure you can claim to know he doesn't have a "natural curiosity about history or human dynamics"?

as much as we have all joked about him being an idiot, I don't think you get to his level of wealth and success without being intelligent. it's just not possible. at the very least, he knew exactly who to surround himself with, which is one of the most important things you can do in business. I don't care how many failures he's had. all millionaires/billionaires have. his are just more public because he chose to write a book about his successes, which inevitibly will cause people to shine a light on your failures. I don't care about his loan from his dad. he turned 1 million into hundreds of millions. you don't do that by luck.

look, I'm not defending him. I just think that all of these red herrings that people are throwing out against him are hurting their cause of what the real issues are/might be. it's no different than all the hillary clinton email bullshit.

This isn't anything at all like Clinton's emails. I'm talking about trump's personality based on what he says and his actions as well as policy. He may be knowledgable about his area of business, that's fine. I recommend people look at the scope of what he's put out there, and not try to dilute it, normalize it, or minimize it. These are the real issues.

I don't find a book he was given by a friend whose religion he mistook and may or may not have read two decades ago a "real issue".

I find it interesting that someone who uses techniques to manipulate masses of people in the same manner that dictators have in the past an issue.

This is why I don't get bogged down in questioning his intelligence. If he can read these speeches, absorb them, pick out the techniques and employ them himself then he is not unintelligent. Terrifying and dangerous, but not unintelligent.