Mike Pence

HughFreakingDillon · November 2016

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
hatred is a disease that can spread quicker than you think. I don't think Trump believes this crap, but I think he could unwittingly give rise to something more powerful. not on the same scale as hitler, but on the same scale as what went on in US history.
What do you not think Trump believes? I think he very much believes in controlling the media if he possibly can, and very much believes in the propaganda machine, he very much believes that he should be adored at massive political rallies during his reign, and very much believes in restricting rights and freedoms of certain groups. How come you don't think Trump believes these things? Everything he says and does shows that he does....

part of me thinks he is so addicted to the attention, so addicted to the idea of all this power, that he said and did anything anyone would tell him if he agreed it would get him more votes. I think there's a very real possibility he is in debt to the alt-right to get elected, and is going to return the favour by appointments and attempting to wash his hands of it after the fact. he already showed that during one of the debates, where he said he would appoint conservative judges and leave roe v wade up to the states. he would not say outright he was pro life. it wasn't until later he spoke about ripping live babies from the womb.

just a big stupid puppet. I know he's a successful businessman and all that, but part of me thinks he is so blinded by the attention and the idea of power he will do and say what he has to do to get it. And then he will owe others for getting him there.

Bentleyspop · November 2016

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
your birthday is 4/20? ok, now some more pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.
My favorite holiday

I live in Colorado where every day is 4/20

PJ_Soul · November 2016

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
your birthday is 4/20? ok, now some more pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.

Ha! Well I'm just grateful that 4/20/my birthday is now something other than Hitler's birthday (outside of conversations about Hitler, lol).

BS44325 · November 2016

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.

Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.

PJ_Soul · November 2016

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.

I think you have lost all perspective on the issue itself. Who said that The Art of Deal is Mein Kampf? I'm sure someone somewhere did, but I didn't, and neither did anyone else here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with drawing certain parallels with Hitler or any other national leader/party - that you balk so much at the way parallels are being drawn, and ignore the fact that nobody is actually calling Trump Hitler #2, I'd say you're that one who is unable to grasp even a basic concept in this context. You're letting your emotions about Hitler and the stigma that name carries get in the way of logical, critical thought about the topic IMO. I'm not laughing though. It's actually quite irritating.

benjs · November 2016

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.

If perception is reality, it doesn't matter whether Trump has the Mein Kampf agenda or not: his words have been widely interpreted as ambiguous enough as to be perceived as bigoted and/or sexist. His failure and unwillingness to clarify that they should not be, has left generations of bigots feeling validated and empowered in their bigoted and/or sexist opinions. I don't find that funny in the slightest.

josevolution · November 2016

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
your birthday is 4/20? ok, now some more pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.
My favorite holiday
I live in Colorado where every day is 4/20

Nice next yr I'm planning trips there and to Oregon !

rssesq · November 2016

fudge that
Amsterdam December 5 De la Soul @ theparadiso

Halifax2TheMax · November 2016

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.

Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf, the Nazi party play book, next to his bed. Have I lost my historical perspective? I'm laughing.

PJ_Soul · November 2016

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf, the Nazi party play book, next to his bed. Have I lost my historical perspective? I'm laughing.

Lol, I had actually forgotten about that little fun fact.

BS44325 · November 2016

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf, the Nazi party play book, next to his bed. Have I lost my historical perspective? I'm laughing.

I hope he has read it. The world needs a President who knows the face of evil.

BS44325 · November 2016

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
If perception is reality, it doesn't matter whether Trump has the Mein Kampf agenda or not: his words have been widely interpreted as ambiguous enough as to be perceived as bigoted and/or sexist. His failure and unwillingness to clarify that they should not be, has left generations of bigots feeling validated and empowered in their bigoted and/or sexist opinions. I don't find that funny in the slightest.

Well now we are discussing interpretations which is a whole different ballgame. Under Trump real bigots will not be tolerated while at the same time policy decisions will not be dictated by the fear of false accusations of bigotry.

Gern Blansten · November 2016

josevolution said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
your birthday is 4/20? ok, now some more pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.
My favorite holiday
I live in Colorado where every day is 4/20
Nice next yr I'm planning trips there and to Oregon !

I considered a road trip to Colorado so I could load up on weed. That's about a 16 hour drive from Indiana though. I sure as fuck wish Michigan, IL or OH would approve recreational marijuana.

BS44325 · November 2016

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
I think you have lost all perspective on the issue itself. Who said that The Art of Deal is Mein Kampf? I'm sure someone somewhere did, but I didn't, and neither did anyone else here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with drawing certain parallels with Hitler or any other national leader/party - that you balk so much at the way parallels are being drawn, and ignore the fact that nobody is actually calling Trump Hitler #2, I'd say you're that one who is unable to grasp even a basic concept in this context. You're letting your emotions about Hitler and the stigma that name carries get in the way of logical, critical thought about the topic IMO. I'm not laughing though. It's actually quite irritating.

There you go with your "parallels" again. Trump isn't Hitler...he's just Parallel Hitler.

JC29856 · November 2016

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf, the Nazi party play book, next to his bed. Have I lost my historical perspective? I'm laughing.

I click pages 4 and 5 on main amt and still laugh!

Halifax2TheMax · November 2016

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf, the Nazi party play book, next to his bed. Have I lost my historical perspective? I'm laughing.
I click pages 4 and 5 on main amt and still laugh!

Me too. Humor is good for the soul.

HughFreakingDillon · November 2016

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
I think you have lost all perspective on the issue itself. Who said that The Art of Deal is Mein Kampf? I'm sure someone somewhere did, but I didn't, and neither did anyone else here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with drawing certain parallels with Hitler or any other national leader/party - that you balk so much at the way parallels are being drawn, and ignore the fact that nobody is actually calling Trump Hitler #2, I'd say you're that one who is unable to grasp even a basic concept in this context. You're letting your emotions about Hitler and the stigma that name carries get in the way of logical, critical thought about the topic IMO. I'm not laughing though. It's actually quite irritating.
There you go with your "parallels" again. Trump isn't Hitler...he's just Parallel Hitler.

this is what drives me nuts about my wife sometimes. she's always speaks in absolutes. I say I don't want one thing, so she does the complete extreme opposite. "I don't like black". "so your favourite colour is white?"

that's not what anyone is saying here. PJ_Soul even typed CERTAIN PARALLELS. You are only reading what you want to read to get your "I'm laughing at you" rocks off.

remember this: "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it". noticing patterns of behaviour is important.

PJ_Soul · November 2016

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

benjs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

rssesq said:
lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
Agreed, but also the propaganda machine, and people should be watching very carefully when it comes to control/manipulation of the media by the government, and the removal of rights and freedoms for various groups and people in general. These are the things I'm most concerned about and that remind me of the Nazi rise to power.... Not to mention Bannon and these others who Trump is choosing for his cabinet. They kinds of relationships between Trump and these people seems very odd to me, and also reminds me of the way Hitler chose his inner circle.
This is a great one to screen cap. The nazis are coming! Can add it to the cry wolf pile in 4-8 years.
Why is it crying wolf when parallels are drawn between the socioeconomic climate leading to Hitler's rise to power, and Trump's rise to power? Has history not shown there's validity in watching a politician carefully who attributes the flaws of society to specific demographics, and commits to any means necessary (i.e. checks and balances be damned) to reach an exclusionary end? Being cautious and thinking critically about the rate of flow of power and the rate of power usage do not seem like negative messages to send to the general population.
Anybody who uses Hitler or Nazis in any sentence with reference to Trump has lost all historical perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf. It is a laughable discussion. I am laughing.
If perception is reality, it doesn't matter whether Trump has the Mein Kampf agenda or not: his words have been widely interpreted as ambiguous enough as to be perceived as bigoted and/or sexist. His failure and unwillingness to clarify that they should not be, has left generations of bigots feeling validated and empowered in their bigoted and/or sexist opinions. I don't find that funny in the slightest.
Well now we are discussing interpretations which is a whole different ballgame. Under Trump real bigots will not be tolerated while at the same time policy decisions will not be dictated by the fear of false accusations of bigotry.

I think Bannon has proven himself to be a real bigot. The accusations aren't false. Since that is true, it is false that Trump won't tolerate real bigots. I mean, his own VP is a real bigot.

Degeneratefk · November 2016

Anyone that denies that Bannon is not a racist, antisemitic bigot is just living life with blinders on. And I'd be willing to bet those same people have the nerve to call people on the left sheep.

rssesq · November 2016

binders or blinders?

Mike Pence

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