Everyone needs to calm down
Shut off your electronic devices.
Go outside.
I have had to deal with 24 years of misery through these last three Presidents. If you fear a President then the President has too much power. Don't be the person that embraces it when it is your guy but starts with the impeach/secede/riot/assassination talk when it isn't. I have a very slight amount of optimism simply due to the talk of ending unfavorable trade agreements.
You wanted big government, now you got it. Government should be a blip in your life, not a necessity. Work towards that, wean yourself off of the system, grow your own veggies, start a business. Continue these practices no matter who is President.
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Its not that the pres has too much power with relation to each individual here. But in your country, the president has immense influence, especially when fear of the boogeyman is involved. I dont fear the president. I am concerned for the potential victims of his most extreme supporters, of which there are many. The lowest common denominator. The people telling citizens to "go home", flying white supremacicst flags, some of this starting yesterday, which is not a coincidence.
The american people have been taught to believe that they, and their government, are the saviours of the world against all that is evil. Even when they are that evil.
USA! USA! USA!
That gives any leader immense influence.
I dont know that anyone is really foretelling the end of civilization here. They are just incredibly disappointed that a guy who has been joked about on the Simpsons a decade and a half ago as being the POTUS, is now exactly that. It is a joke, seemingly being played on the american people. and by extension, the globe.
And the anger, fear, and racism that has been shown during this campaign is a little concerning.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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thank you. its a shame you didn't post this yesterday, the fear was overwhelming around here. im sure it wont change today either, another day in the AMT, another day of fear, assumptions, and hate toward America. what else is new....unsung said:Take a deep breath.
Shut off your electronic devices.
Go outside.
I have had to deal with 24 years of misery through these last three Presidents. If you fear a President then the President has too much power. Don't be the person that embraces it when it is your guy but starts with the impeach/secede/riot/assassination talk when it isn't. I have a very slight amount of optimism simply due to the talk of ending unfavorable trade agreements.
You wanted big government, now you got it. Government should be a blip in your life, not a necessity. Work towards that, wean yourself off of the system, grow your own veggies, start a business. Continue these practices no matter who is President.
Opt out.
That's how I got through it.0 -
oh the drama. I have seen none of what you think you have seen.rustneversleeps said:
thank you. its a shame you didn't post this yesterday, the fear was overwhelming around here. im sure it wont change today either, another day in the AMT, another day of fear, assumptions, and hate toward America. what else is new....unsung said:Take a deep breath.
Shut off your electronic devices.
Go outside.
I have had to deal with 24 years of misery through these last three Presidents. If you fear a President then the President has too much power. Don't be the person that embraces it when it is your guy but starts with the impeach/secede/riot/assassination talk when it isn't. I have a very slight amount of optimism simply due to the talk of ending unfavorable trade agreements.
You wanted big government, now you got it. Government should be a blip in your life, not a necessity. Work towards that, wean yourself off of the system, grow your own veggies, start a business. Continue these practices no matter who is President.
Opt out.
That's how I got through it.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
im not allowed to discuss anything with you Hugh, but its good to see you arent scared anymore.HughFreakingDillon said:
oh the drama. I have seen none of what you think you have seen.rustneversleeps said:
thank you. its a shame you didn't post this yesterday, the fear was overwhelming around here. im sure it wont change today either, another day in the AMT, another day of fear, assumptions, and hate toward America. what else is new....unsung said:Take a deep breath.
Shut off your electronic devices.
Go outside.
I have had to deal with 24 years of misery through these last three Presidents. If you fear a President then the President has too much power. Don't be the person that embraces it when it is your guy but starts with the impeach/secede/riot/assassination talk when it isn't. I have a very slight amount of optimism simply due to the talk of ending unfavorable trade agreements.
You wanted big government, now you got it. Government should be a blip in your life, not a necessity. Work towards that, wean yourself off of the system, grow your own veggies, start a business. Continue these practices no matter who is President.
Opt out.
That's how I got through it.0 -
huh?rustneversleeps said:
im not allowed to discuss anything with you Hugh, but its good to see you arent scared anymore.HughFreakingDillon said:
oh the drama. I have seen none of what you think you have seen.rustneversleeps said:
thank you. its a shame you didn't post this yesterday, the fear was overwhelming around here. im sure it wont change today either, another day in the AMT, another day of fear, assumptions, and hate toward America. what else is new....unsung said:Take a deep breath.
Shut off your electronic devices.
Go outside.
I have had to deal with 24 years of misery through these last three Presidents. If you fear a President then the President has too much power. Don't be the person that embraces it when it is your guy but starts with the impeach/secede/riot/assassination talk when it isn't. I have a very slight amount of optimism simply due to the talk of ending unfavorable trade agreements.
You wanted big government, now you got it. Government should be a blip in your life, not a necessity. Work towards that, wean yourself off of the system, grow your own veggies, start a business. Continue these practices no matter who is President.
Opt out.
That's how I got through it.
never was scared. jesus, the projection around here is astounding.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
have a swell day Hugh.HughFreakingDillon said:
huh?rustneversleeps said:
im not allowed to discuss anything with you Hugh, but its good to see you arent scared anymore.HughFreakingDillon said:
oh the drama. I have seen none of what you think you have seen.rustneversleeps said:
thank you. its a shame you didn't post this yesterday, the fear was overwhelming around here. im sure it wont change today either, another day in the AMT, another day of fear, assumptions, and hate toward America. what else is new....unsung said:Take a deep breath.
Shut off your electronic devices.
Go outside.
I have had to deal with 24 years of misery through these last three Presidents. If you fear a President then the President has too much power. Don't be the person that embraces it when it is your guy but starts with the impeach/secede/riot/assassination talk when it isn't. I have a very slight amount of optimism simply due to the talk of ending unfavorable trade agreements.
You wanted big government, now you got it. Government should be a blip in your life, not a necessity. Work towards that, wean yourself off of the system, grow your own veggies, start a business. Continue these practices no matter who is President.
Opt out.
That's how I got through it.
never was scared. jesus, the projection around here is astounding.0 -
I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.www.cluthelee.com0
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very well put 2-feign, i agree with everything you said here.2-feign-reluctance said:I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487HughFreakingDillon said:
oh the drama. I have seen none of what you think you have seen.rustneversleeps said:
thank you. its a shame you didn't post this yesterday, the fear was overwhelming around here. im sure it wont change today either, another day in the AMT, another day of fear, assumptions, and hate toward America. what else is new....unsung said:Take a deep breath.
Shut off your electronic devices.
Go outside.
I have had to deal with 24 years of misery through these last three Presidents. If you fear a President then the President has too much power. Don't be the person that embraces it when it is your guy but starts with the impeach/secede/riot/assassination talk when it isn't. I have a very slight amount of optimism simply due to the talk of ending unfavorable trade agreements.
You wanted big government, now you got it. Government should be a blip in your life, not a necessity. Work towards that, wean yourself off of the system, grow your own veggies, start a business. Continue these practices no matter who is President.
Opt out.
That's how I got through it.
Check out the Occupy Democrats page on facebook.
I am starting to believe that Democrats don't know the definition of "literally".
As in comments I have seen:
Trump is literally Hitler.
And
Trump is literally worse than 9/11.
Neither of which is literally true.
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2-feign-reluctance said:
I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.
Wow....best thing i have read...completely with you0 -
As a self-called moderate Republican, and one who doesn't really like Trump (nor Clinton), I wish, and hope, more people come to the realization that you have. There has been way too much overreaction to this election. People need to calm down and realize that the only way to move forward is to work together. I hope that our government, led by Trump (never thought I'd say that lol) can work together. There hasn't been much of that in the last 16 years. To truly make this country great, we all need to swallow our pride, make compromises and do what is best for everyone.2-feign-reluctance said:I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.
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I don't think any of us believed he'd get elected. I posted several times when the primaries began that he would go down in embarassing fashion, thinking he'd start out strong and fizzle like Giuliani did. I was wrong. Then I said he'd get demolished in the general. I was wrong. And I was shocked as all hell.2-feign-reluctance said:I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.
But I simply cannot fathom voting in a sociopath for one word: "change". I understand how many in the working class feel forgotten. But this guy doesn't "get them". Neither did Hillary, but to believe he did is beyond me. Very few, if any, politicians at this level understand the working class. When a large segment of your population is desperate for change, that can be a very dangerous thing.
I go back and forth on this. "how much damage can he really do with all the checks and balances in the US process?" back to "he's going to destroy international relations and possibly start a new massive recession". He may do damage, he may do zero. Only time will tell.
But I still find it incredibly embarassing to the US that this guy is the president of the US. Regardless of what he does or doesn't do, it's a stain on the office. Especially following Obama. Jesus.
Justin Trudeau is probably thinking "I didn't sign up for this shit". LOLBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
One thing we will get is a crashed economy, Trump now provides a perfect excuse for the wall streeters to "correct" the economic bubble.2-feign-reluctance said:I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.
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Unless something catastrophic happens, or we go to war for no reason, no, we probably won't have a market crash. History tells us that usually, the markets don't do as well in the first 2 years of a president's term, but go up in the last 2 years. Democrats in the White House usually seem to see a higher gain on the market at 9% avg gains compared to 6% for Republicans, but when one party has control of the White House and Congress, avg gains are around 16.9%. The market goes up, and then it goes down. What will happen...who knows? It may get bad for a while, but it will go back up. On election night, the futures were tanking, but the market actually did good yesterday and is up 140pts today alreadyJC29856 said:
One thing we will get is a crashed economy, Trump now provides a perfect excuse for the wall streeters to "correct" the economic bubble.
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We're right on schedule for a recession, regardless of who's president.0
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Wall street was heavily invested in Hilliary, Trump is an outsider, our economy has been propped up, interests rates and inflation are backwards, a "correction" is needed and Trump provides the excuse we told you so. Otherwise, the banksters threaten trump with tanking the economy and leaving it in his lap which would lead to more bailouts.ponytd said:
Unless something catastrophic happens, or we go to war for no reason, no, we probably won't have a market crash. History tells us that usually, the markets don't do as well in the first 2 years of a president's term, but go up in the last 2 years. Democrats in the White House usually seem to see a higher gain on the market at 9% avg gains compared to 6% for Republicans, but when one party has control of the White House and Congress, avg gains are around 16.9%. The market goes up, and then it goes down. What will happen...who knows? It may get bad for a while, but it will go back up. On election night, the futures were tanking, but the market actually did good yesterday and is up 140pts today alreadyJC29856 said:
One thing we will get is a crashed economy, Trump now provides a perfect excuse for the wall streeters to "correct" the economic bubble.0 -
Only thing we can do where Trump is concerned, is sit back and watch to see if he meant it all. At this very moment in time, I have nothing direct to FEAR. Like I said, I detest the human qualities and I feel this way about others too, but at this time, Thursday 11/10/16, I can't allow myself to fear a bunch of 'what ifs'. Gets me nowhere, and as a therapist I work with people on this very action. So like Anthony Kides once preached, "walk it like you talk it"....that's where I am today.HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't think any of us believed he'd get elected. I posted several times when the primaries began that he would go down in embarassing fashion, thinking he'd start out strong and fizzle like Giuliani did. I was wrong. Then I said he'd get demolished in the general. I was wrong. And I was shocked as all hell.2-feign-reluctance said:I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.
But I simply cannot fathom voting in a sociopath for one word: "change". I understand how many in the working class feel forgotten. But this guy doesn't "get them". Neither did Hillary, but to believe he did is beyond me. Very few, if any, politicians at this level understand the working class. When a large segment of your population is desperate for change, that can be a very dangerous thing.
I go back and forth on this. "how much damage can he really do with all the checks and balances in the US process?" back to "he's going to destroy international relations and possibly start a new massive recession". He may do damage, he may do zero. Only time will tell.
But I still find it incredibly embarassing to the US that this guy is the president of the US. Regardless of what he does or doesn't do, it's a stain on the office. Especially following Obama. Jesus.
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we could go through a recession, but who knows. It really is up in the air since Trump is an outsider. We won't know what his policies are going to beJC29856 said:
Wall street was heavily invested in Hilliary, Trump is an outsider, our economy has been propped up, interests rates and inflation are backwards, a "correction" is needed and Trump provides the excuse we told you so. Otherwise, the banksters threaten trump with tanking the economy and leaving it in his lap which would lead to more bailouts.ponytd said:
Unless something catastrophic happens, or we go to war for no reason, no, we probably won't have a market crash. History tells us that usually, the markets don't do as well in the first 2 years of a president's term, but go up in the last 2 years. Democrats in the White House usually seem to see a higher gain on the market at 9% avg gains compared to 6% for Republicans, but when one party has control of the White House and Congress, avg gains are around 16.9%. The market goes up, and then it goes down. What will happen...who knows? It may get bad for a while, but it will go back up. On election night, the futures were tanking, but the market actually did good yesterday and is up 140pts today alreadyJC29856 said:
One thing we will get is a crashed economy, Trump now provides a perfect excuse for the wall streeters to "correct" the economic bubble.0
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