Everyone needs to calm down

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I had Trump all wrong the whole time. I posted so many times basically telling you all there was no way he'd get elected. I am eating a lot of crow with my coffee this morning. I am a white, overly educated professional who has never known a blue collar working class life. I failed to see how all along Trump was mobilizing our working class (not all of which are racist, etc., etc., etcs) but honest hard working people who have had it with government. Looking deeper, talking with people I know, reaching out to my blue collar working friends, I get it and I failed to see how Trump could be appealing to anyone by completely forgetting about our rust belt. That's on me. I was in my own little bubble, filled with job security, great home, benefits, etc., etc., and this morning I feel like a very judgemental asshole. I truly believe in the 'Forward, Together' mantra coined by the DNC this year and that means everyone. I don't have to like Trump the man - in fact I don't. I just don't. He stands for everything I detest in humans. But, spending my time brooding about it, getting all pissy is getting me nowhere. And while I won't out and say I will support Trump in any fashion, I am going to focus my energies on what matters and send a lot of hope that the people that essentially elected Trump gets what they want from his presidency, because I believe we should all feel some level of contentment and happiness in our lives and if this is what MIGHT do it for our working class and all who voted for him, and the result are more happy and content people, then I am more content.

I don't think any of us believed he'd get elected. I posted several times when the primaries began that he would go down in embarassing fashion, thinking he'd start out strong and fizzle like Giuliani did. I was wrong. Then I said he'd get demolished in the general. I was wrong. And I was shocked as all hell.

But I simply cannot fathom voting in a sociopath for one word: "change". I understand how many in the working class feel forgotten. But this guy doesn't "get them". Neither did Hillary, but to believe he did is beyond me. Very few, if any, politicians at this level understand the working class. When a large segment of your population is desperate for change, that can be a very dangerous thing.

I go back and forth on this. "how much damage can he really do with all the checks and balances in the US process?" back to "he's going to destroy international relations and possibly start a new massive recession". He may do damage, he may do zero. Only time will tell.

But I still find it incredibly embarassing to the US that this guy is the president of the US. Regardless of what he does or doesn't do, it's a stain on the office. Especially following Obama. Jesus.

Justin Trudeau is probably thinking "I didn't sign up for this shit". LOL

People are tired of the status quo. It is that simple.

no they aren't. if people truly tired of the status quo, they would have voted third party. trump is the head of one of the two major parties. you don't get any more status quo than that. no matter how anti establishment people think he is, he will fall in line like every other figurehead in history. his acceptance speech showed that once he won, he instantly became the same old same old.

CM189191

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
The worst?
How?
Explain.

For starters, does this map look familiar:

Proportion of Total Population Enrolled in ACA Marketplace Coverage During Second Open Enrollment Period

HughFreakingDillon

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Would you be saying the same if it was an all Dem house?

i would be. i predicted that if trump lost the way i thought he would lose, that the dems would take complete control, the republican party would be destroyed, and that would be bad for democracy.

PJfanwillneverleave1

CM189191 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
The worst?
How?
Explain.

For starters, does this map look familiar:

Proportion of Total Population Enrolled in ACA Marketplace Coverage During Second Open Enrollment Period

No.
It looks like another map from Glen Beck.

PJfanwillneverleave1

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Would you be saying the same if it was an all Dem house?

that the dems would take complete control, the republican party would be destroyed, and that would be bad for democracy.

Agreed.

However
President-elect Trump will not destroy the world w/ his new found super power of complete control.
He was only after POTUS.

lukin2006

I think most thought he'd destroy the Republican Party, now the republicans appear stronger than ever and the dems are in trouble...the disenfranchised had their say...and I say great for them.

HughFreakingDillon

lukin2006 said:

I think most thought he'd destroy the Republican Party, now the republicans appear stronger than ever and the dems are in trouble...the disenfranchised had their say...and I say great for them.

maybe the dems being forced to rebuild will be a good thing. but it could take a while.

HughFreakingDillon

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Would you be saying the same if it was an all Dem house?

that the dems would take complete control, the republican party would be destroyed, and that would be bad for democracy.

Agreed.

However
President-elect Trump will not destroy the world w/ his new found super power of complete control.
He was only after POTUS.

he won't destroy the world. but he's going to probably destroy the reputation, whatever is left, of the united states. most of the world hates them. just wait. the rest will soon too.

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Would you be saying the same if it was an all Dem house?

i would be. i predicted that if trump lost the way i thought he would lose, that the dems would take complete control, the republican party would be destroyed, and that would be bad for democracy.

So now we have the complete opposite of the equation how is this good for the nation?

tbergs

It's not and people aren't paying attention because of the circus presidential race.

josevolution

tbergs said:

It's not and people aren't paying attention because of the circus presidential race.

Exactly!

HughFreakingDillon

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Would you be saying the same if it was an all Dem house?

i would be. i predicted that if trump lost the way i thought he would lose, that the dems would take complete control, the republican party would be destroyed, and that would be bad for democracy.

So now we have the complete opposite of the equation how is this good for the nation?

it's not. pjfan was asking, justifiably, if dems would be saying the same thing if the situation were reversed. i answered that it's bad ether way.

tbergs

The presidential race needs to be more like March madness. No preference to what party you represent. You are in if you choose to be and advance as you get voted to the next round. Everyone gets the same allocated funding for advertising/marketing. The final four advance to the presidential debates and we get rid of only 2 people knowing for sure they get to debate as presidential nominees. The 2 party stranglehold needs to end.

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Would you be saying the same if it was an all Dem house?

i would be. i predicted that if trump lost the way i thought he would lose, that the dems would take complete control, the republican party would be destroyed, and that would be bad for democracy.

So now we have the complete opposite of the equation how is this good for the nation?

it's not. pjfan was asking, justifiably, if dems would be saying the same thing if the situation were reversed. i answered that it's bad ether way.

No I know , I just ? How half of the population thinks it's a good thing I see no upside to the one party rule and that's what we have starting Jan 2017 !

CM189191

tbergs said:

The presidential race needs to be more like March madness. No preference to what party you represent. You are in if you choose to be and advance as you get voted to the next round. Everyone gets the same allocated funding for advertising/marketing. The final four advance to the presidential debates and we get rid of only 2 people knowing for sure they get to debate as presidential nominees. The 2 party stranglehold needs to end.

How about instant run off voting? He would that have worked this time around?

bootlegger10

Can someone link the locker room scene from Old School where Will Ferrell is yelling at everyone to keep their composure while about to throw a chair?

Free

Well this thread is a roller coaster.

tbergs

Free said:

Well this thread is a roller coaster.

Here's hoping the next four years isn't a continual drop from the top. I love and hate that about roller coasters. It's scary at first, but then you just throw your hands up and enjoy the ride. Wheeee!

Free

tbergs said:

Free said:

Well this thread is a roller coaster.

Here's hoping the next four years isn't a continual drop from the top. I love and hate that about roller coasters. It's scary at first, but then you just throw your hands up and enjoy the ride. Wheeee!

That's right!

I don't dwell in doom and gloom of the future though, we create the fear ourselves From our thoughts alone, worrying about "OMG, what if?!" Just look at the bottom of page 1. If the IDEA of a Trump presidency causes more stress than reality does?

tbergs

Here's a good example of why it's hard for some to just calm down though. This was passed on to me by my wife.

I was talking to a co-worker today about the election and she was able to explain the sexism in this election in one simple way. I’d like you to go through this exercise:

Imagine Donald Trump was a woman running for president. For this exercise, I will call her Daniella Trump.

Imagine Daniella Trump lived in a gold tower in the sky (with her name on it) and did not pay taxes for 20+ years, despite being a billionaire.

Imagine Daniella Trump being best known for being a TV reality show with the tagline “You’re Fired”.

Imagine Daniella Trump claimed bankruptcy 4 times.

Imagine Daniella Trump had 5 kids by 3 different men.

Imagine Daniella Trump had never held any political office at any level, yet she was running for President of the United States.

Imagine Daniella Trump was married to a male supermodel from Italy 30 years younger than her.

Imagine Daniella Trump was on tape bragging about grabbing guys by the dick. Imagine a dozen guys came forward with similar stories and she threatened to sue them all.

Imagine Daniella Trump mocked a disabled reporter and a POW war hero/US senator.

Imagine Daniella Trump didn’t have concrete policy plans, but simply said things like “believe me”.

Imagine Daniella Trump saying she knows more than the generals.

Imagine Daniella Trump owned the Mr. Universe contest and bragged about going backstage when the contestants were naked.

Imagine Daniella Trump claiming the system was “rigged” even though Russian authorities were hacking her opponent’s emails.

Imagine Daniella Trump eating a taco bowl on Cinco De Mayo and stating “I love the Mexicans!”.

Imagine Daniella Trump going on Twitter tirades in the middle of the night against the media, former Mr. Universes (see above), and Saturday Night Live.

Imagine Daniella Trump barring certain news organizations from her rallies/events.

Imagine Daniella Trump had TERRIBLE hair.

Imagine all these things. Seriously. Would you vote for Daniella Trump or would you call her a crazy ass bitch??