Hillary won more votes for President
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S/he ran out of podesta emails. Thy Lourdes work is completist.dignin said:
A bigger person wouldn't scour through these threads to rub past statements in. Isn't winning enough?JC29856 said:
interesting!mrussel1 said:Here is some fascinating statistics, published today by Politico. The punchline is that Trump would need to win 70% of white males in order to win the general election. But here's what's working against him:
- No GOP candidate in the last half century has won more than 63% of white males
- The turnout rate for white males is very high already, so not much 'enthusiasm' room to grow
- Trump's favorable/unfavorable for Hispanics is -50%. That's astoundingly bad. Experts predict he might get 15% of the Hispanic vote. Bush peaked at 35%. Everyone else on the GOP has been much lower. Estimates are that Hispanic turnout will be 15% greater in '16 than in '12. So Trump's problem is exasperated even vs. Romney.
- Asian-Americans are also similarly negative on him.
- Romney only won 5% of the black vote in 2012. Don't think for a second that Obama is not going to savage Trump in the run up to the election. There is no way he will get the 12% Bush got.
- Women are just as bad of a problem. Dems typically win 53% of the woman vote. He has to win 62% of all women + 70% of white men.
For you political wonks, it's a good read: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699?o=1
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Education is key!mrussel1 said:
Educate yourself a little bit please. I'm tired of you embarrassing yourself on these boards. It will also help you be prepared for Trump's general election loss. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699usamamasan1 said:
97% of all statistics are made up, on the spot. Nice numbers Ace!mrussel1 said:
She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It is not an idiotic comment.mrussel1 said:
Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.usamamasan1 said:Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?0 -
2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ok, that is pretty funny. Wrong, but funny.Ledbetterman10 said:0 -
Aw, my feewings are hurt.dignin said:
How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.Free said:Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
You have absolutely no credibility here.
Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.0 -
America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for allFree said:
Aw, my feewings are hurt.dignin said:
How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.Free said:Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
You have absolutely no credibility here.
Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.0 -
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The healing will begin when all sides work together.
Trump and Libs, together.0 -
With chaos, comes great change.JC29856 said:
America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for allFree said:
Aw, my feewings are hurt.dignin said:
How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.Free said:Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
You have absolutely no credibility here.
Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.
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"I love the poorly educated"-TrumpJC29856 said:
Education is key!mrussel1 said:
Educate yourself a little bit please. I'm tired of you embarrassing yourself on these boards. It will also help you be prepared for Trump's general election loss. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699usamamasan1 said:
97% of all statistics are made up, on the spot. Nice numbers Ace!mrussel1 said:
She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It is not an idiotic comment.mrussel1 said:
Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.usamamasan1 said:Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?0 -
Blindsided...more like connedFree said:
Aw, my feewings are hurt.dignin said:
How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.Free said:Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
You have absolutely no credibility here.
Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.0 -
Chaos + change ≠ goodFree said:
With chaos, comes great change.JC29856 said:
America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for allFree said:
Aw, my feewings are hurt.dignin said:
How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.Free said:Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
You have absolutely no credibility here.
Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.0 -
So was Hillary just immensely selfish in forcing herself on the Democratic Party when she knew she was divisive and flawed candidate?0
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30 years of public service is selfless.bootlegger10 said:So was Hillary just immensely selfish in forcing herself on the Democratic Party when she knew she was divisive and flawed candidate?
On the other hand, Trump is the walking manifestation of selfishness.0 -
Look where that entitlement because of 30 years of public service (that resulted in $200 million in the bank) got the Dem party? She was selfish, but I understand the pressure to run when people gave her and her husband $200 million for influence.
That is funny though. Are there any other selfless jobs that will make me .2 billion dollars? I am going to check Monster.comPost edited by bootlegger10 on0 -
Not for nothing, but if I spend 30 years dedicated to working for the same company, I would feel obligated to throw my hat in the ring when the old CEO decides to retire. That's not entitlement. That's being qualified for the job at hand.bootlegger10 said:Look where that entitlement because of 30 years of public service (that resulted in $200 million in the bank) got the Dem party? She was selfish, but I understand the pressure to run when people gave her and her husband $200 million for influence.
Do you honestly believe Trump ran on some concrete ideology? You know, besides fear mongering....0 -
Not always. Let's wait-and-see.CM189191 said:
Chaos + change ≠ goodFree said:
With chaos, comes great change.JC29856 said:
America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for allFree said:
Aw, my feewings are hurt.dignin said:
How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.Free said:Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
You have absolutely no credibility here.
Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.0 -
Or was the Democratic Party immensely selfish and flawed when pushing her as the candidate and pushing Sanders out? Sanders had a better chance of beating Trump and we knew it.bootlegger10 said:So was Hillary just immensely selfish in forcing herself on the Democratic Party when she knew she was divisive and flawed candidate?
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