Hillary won more votes for President

JimmyV

JC29856 said:

JimmyV said:

Politicos always say not having two speeches written is the ultimate no-no. But it wouldn't shock me if they didn't.

I read your post about being wrong about predictions, props for that, I too was wrong. I read thru the posts in prediction thread and nobody predicted a trump win, nobody. Maybe uncle godfather but that's it.

Thanks man. I am in stunned disbelief here. Never thought this could happen.

rssesq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ezvfDzFMII

rustneversleeps

that dude just picked his nose and ate it.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Here is a live stream to her concession speech.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/nov/09/donald-trump-us-election-2016-live-reactio

JC29856

Guess the xanees see taking awhile to kick in!
I'll say this, with all that was in her favor it takes courage to talk about how you ran one of the worse presidential campaigns in history.

PJfanwillneverleave1

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-concession-speech.html

The reporter quoted "I would rather have an in your face Republican than a two-faced Democrat".
Wow.

JC29856

Gore lost election but won popular vote.
Hilliary lost election but won popular vote.

Common denominator???

rssesq

JC29856 said:

Gore lost election but won popular vote.
Hilliary lost election but won popular vote.

Common denominator???

?nate silver? lol

Gern Blansten

JC29856 said:

Gore lost election but won popular vote.
Hilliary lost election but won popular vote.

Common denominator???

They were both pushing for third terms in a sense. Hard to do. Bush did it after Reagan but only for one term.

JC29856

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/09/dont-mourn-hillarys-loss/

JC29856

The DNC in 2000 chose the only recount in Florida that would prove Bush the winner, the DNC in 2016 chose the only nominee that would make Trump the winner.

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

Hillary is fine as are the gerrymandered guaranteed re elected republicans. They're just frustrated there's no "there" there and they've squandered 7 years and have 0 credibility outside their districts. Trump woot woot!

nice

JC29856

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html

Should Mr. Trump clinch the presidential nomination, it would represent a rout of historic proportions for the institutional Republican Party, and could set off an internal rift unseen in either party for a half-century, since white Southerners abandoned the Democratic Party en masse during the civil rights movement.

Former Gov. Michael O. Leavitt of Utah, a top adviser to Mr. Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign, said the party was unable to come up with a united front to quash Mr. Trump’s campaign.

LOL

hilliaryous

JC29856

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

http://www.270towin.com/

Electoral math. Democrats have to give back several states won twice by Obama to flip the country. Not saying it cannot or will not happen, just that Republicans face a difficult path.

Yeah and the Faux News zombies still haven't figured it out. The GOP needed a savior to have any hope in November....it isn't going to be Trumpenstein.

nice

lukin2006

She lost, the DMC rigged the primaries and didn't take the disenfranchised serious ... Bernie would have won easily...

polaris_x

JC29856 said:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/09/dont-mourn-hillarys-loss/

yup

JC29856

Free said:

Actually I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned on this forum yet. This entire election of the Trump and Hillary show is a well-planned out scheme by the two of them to rig the American election. I'm not worried about Trump you know why? And I've talk to people about this and they've agreed as well.

Trump is only in it to give the election to Hillary, his good friend Hillary. I don't take him seriously. And I don't really think he wants to be in charge, hence the lack of concrete policies and plans. This appears to be in great fun for him, you can tell he's enjoying it. Why not? He loves the media attention. And his ego.

Watch carefully, and don't just discount this idea. Because it may very well be what's going on.

My intuition says he will drop out voluntarily because his intention was never to actually win. Just sit back and watch. Anyone with half a brain would not act like he does if they really were serious about winning. Think about it. Just keep your mind open and think about it.

times have changed

JC29856

mrussel1 said:

Here is some fascinating statistics, published today by Politico. The punchline is that Trump would need to win 70% of white males in order to win the general election. But here's what's working against him:
- No GOP candidate in the last half century has won more than 63% of white males
- The turnout rate for white males is very high already, so not much 'enthusiasm' room to grow
- Trump's favorable/unfavorable for Hispanics is -50%. That's astoundingly bad. Experts predict he might get 15% of the Hispanic vote. Bush peaked at 35%. Everyone else on the GOP has been much lower. Estimates are that Hispanic turnout will be 15% greater in '16 than in '12. So Trump's problem is exasperated even vs. Romney.
- Asian-Americans are also similarly negative on him.
- Romney only won 5% of the black vote in 2012. Don't think for a second that Obama is not going to savage Trump in the run up to the election. There is no way he will get the 12% Bush got.
- Women are just as bad of a problem. Dems typically win 53% of the woman vote. He has to win 62% of all women + 70% of white men.

For you political wonks, it's a good read: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699?o=1

Woot!

interesting!

rssesq

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/4/13500018/clinton-email-scandal-bullshit

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Great summary....this is what a lot of us have been saying all along.

sounds like top rated media source "VOX" / "FOX" you have given into the same thing you have been accusing me of.....let go already she's toast.

Godfather

maybe he'll pull it out, maybe he won't. but most aren't giving him much of a shot. there's only a few perfect scenarios where he can win.

I started watching the Princeton Election Consortium http://election.princeton.edu/electoral-college-map/

Nate Silver has posted reasons why his 538 site (currently showing Clinton's chance of winning at 66%) gives Trump more of a chance than some of the other models. Princeton shows Clinton with a 99% chance of winning. Pretty bold.

PJ_Soul

Free said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

pjalive21 said:

CNN and you liberal rag is done as the rest of your polling bullshit

CNN was very good at the coverage tonight until it was clear their message wasn't getting through to the blue.
Polls? What are those?
Flush.

polls have always meant nothing.

True. I mentioned long ago that the exact same thing happened in the last provincial elections in BC. All polls indicated a sure win with a comfortable margin for NDP right up until the polls closed, and then the Liberals won. I haven't trusted political polls since.
I wonder if Nate Silver feels like a heel this morning?