Jill Stein for President

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    g under p said:

    JC29856 said:

    The saddest part of this election isn't Clinton's career corruption or Trumps escapades, it's that Stein won't garner 5% of the vote.

    I certainly hope she does get 5% but I doubt it being here in Florida. I voted for her and I'm hoping she gets that 5% so that in the next election presidential elections they will be a mandate for a third party.

    Peace
    realpolitics has her tracking in the average polls at between 2% to 3%. I hope these polls are at least a couple of percentage points off. You'd think with all the unpopularity of the two leading candidates that the independents Stein and Johnson would be doing better. Are we here in the US stuck in a two party rut or what?!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    brianlux said:

    g under p said:

    JC29856 said:

    The saddest part of this election isn't Clinton's career corruption or Trumps escapades, it's that Stein won't garner 5% of the vote.

    I certainly hope she does get 5% but I doubt it being here in Florida. I voted for her and I'm hoping she gets that 5% so that in the next election presidential elections they will be a mandate for a third party.

    Peace
    realpolitics has her tracking in the average polls at between 2% to 3%. I hope these polls are at least a couple of percentage points off. You'd think with all the unpopularity of the two leading candidates that the independents Stein and Johnson would be doing better. Are we here in the US stuck in a two party rut or what?!
    Only if we continue to allow it...could there be changes to this after this election? I guess we wait and see

    I am pretty surprised myself that Stein isnt doing better considering the options, I really wish she was but she doesn't get the exposure the other candidates do

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    hedonist said:

    brianlux said:

    What is it about Baraka some of you find unfavorable? Him criticizing those who want to "assimilate African Americans"? His being against the death penalty? His being opposed to incarcerating people on marijuana-related charges? His condemnation of NAFTA? His criticism of Katrina disaster relief? His humanitarian stance?

    Something else?

    Easy there! From here, I was asking a straightforward and sincere question since he/the topic hadn't been addressed among all the praises of Stein.

    *edit as I read one comment incorrectly.
    No worries, Hedo. I was sincerely wondering why some others here expressed what sounds like disapproval. I honestly don't know much more about Baraka than what I posted.

    Would be interesting to have an ex-president named Barack and a VP named Baraka. :smile:
    I just looked him up to see if there was any reason for someone to say he seemed extreme in some ways. He is certainly an outspoken activist with very specific ideals, and some bigger dolts find just that to be extremist, lol. But anyway, I did find this quote (wiki): Baraka has criticized efforts to "Americanize" black radicals and to assimilate African Americans into the American middle class, writing: "Saner people would call that process genocide, but in the U.S. it is called racial progress."[20] Referencing Black Panther activist Assata Shakur, Baraka argued that black radical activists could never obtain true freedom "while the American government and American capitalism remain intact."[20]"

    I can see why some not unreasonable people would see such an idea as extreme.
    I don't see his statement as extreme at all. You've shown support for Native Americans in various threads so I assume you understand how assimilation has been a form of genocide for Natives- not as extreme as small pox infested blankets and outright murder, but if you study the history, it is just as much a form of genocide. The same thing has been applied to African Americans throughout our history. So is not referring to an intelligent opposition to this and any form of assimilation "extreme" rather inaccurate?
    I know the history and I think you know where I stand. Come on Brian. Saying that African Americans joining the middle class is genocide to sane people? Given reality, that is pretty extreme.
    I think his point is that assimilation is more than just joining the middle class. I can only imagine the frustration of black activists generation upon generation. Progress at a snails pace is the American way.

    But what do I know? Baraka knows far more about all this than I do and it is just one facet of the man. His position includes "an agenda of economic, social, racial, gender, climate, indigenous and immigrant justice." Sounds good to me.

    http://www.jill2016.com/jill_stein_selects_ajamu_baraka_as_vp

    If he didn't mean it was a genocide, then he wouldn't have said it was (to sane people).
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Bump because I predict at least one of you will change your mind last minute and vote for Stein. :smiley:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    edited November 2016
    http://forward.com/the-assimilator/353619/lena-dunham-compares-voting-for-jill-stein-to-hooking-up-with-a-taken-guy/

    She's the WASPy privileged hipster equivalent of Sarah Palin. Can't stand this neolib moron at all.
    Post edited by InHiding80 on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Just one more time chime in for anyone here NOT in a swing state to consider voting for Stein. If she gets 5%, Green Party qualifies for public funding next time. Let's consider widening the playing field.

    Thanks, peace, and keep cool tomorrow.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    InHiding80 said:

    http://forward.com/the-assimilator/353619/lena-dunham-compares-voting-for-jill-stein-to-hooking-up-with-a-taken-guy/

    She's the WASPy privileged hipster equivalent of Sarah Palin. Can't stand this neolib moron at all.

    You are not seriously comparing a Harvard educated Doctor to Sarah Palin.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    Just one more time chime in for anyone here NOT in a swing state to consider voting for Stein. If she gets 5%, Green Party qualifies for public funding next time. Let's consider widening the playing field.

    Thanks, peace, and keep cool tomorrow.

  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    I sat there for 5 minutes staring at the fucking thing. I was undecided, even while voting...

    Went with Stein. Glad I did.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    MayDay10 said:

    I sat there for 5 minutes staring at the fucking thing. I was undecided, even while voting...

    Went with Stein. Glad I did.

    Today I will try very hard not to criticize anyone for their choice in voting- we are lucky to have that freedom. Yet at the same time I will not hesitate to say--- thank you MayDay!

    Please everyone today, no heart attacks, ulcers, dives off the roof top, kicking the dog, yelling at the cat. Life goes on no matter what the election result.

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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,004
    She got my vote... again
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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    lukin2006 said:

    InHiding80 said:

    http://forward.com/the-assimilator/353619/lena-dunham-compares-voting-for-jill-stein-to-hooking-up-with-a-taken-guy/

    She's the WASPy privileged hipster equivalent of Sarah Palin. Can't stand this neolib moron at all.

    You are not seriously comparing a Harvard educated Doctor to Sarah Palin.
    Doctor knowlege doesn't equal political knowledge. Just look at Ben Carson on the other side.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    InHiding80 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    InHiding80 said:

    http://forward.com/the-assimilator/353619/lena-dunham-compares-voting-for-jill-stein-to-hooking-up-with-a-taken-guy/

    She's the WASPy privileged hipster equivalent of Sarah Palin. Can't stand this neolib moron at all.

    You are not seriously comparing a Harvard educated Doctor to Sarah Palin.
    Doctor knowlege doesn't equal political knowledge. Just look at Ben Carson on the other side.
    hahahaha ... being trained as a physician, I think she could figure it out pretty quick ... love people like yourself and your way of thinking that only career politicians know what their doing ... hahahahaha ...
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    SVRDhand13 said:

    She got my vote... again

    Good show, SVRDhand! image
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Looks like the leadership in the green party is disassociating itself with Jill over the recounts.
    Hopefully she didn't do any long lasting damage to the party.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    JC29856 said:

    Looks like the leadership in the green party is disassociating itself with Jill over the recounts.
    Hopefully she didn't do any long lasting damage to the party.

    What difference would it really make if she did? It's not like they have a lot to lose anyway.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    What damage could the recount possibly do to the Green Party?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited December 2016
    JimmyV said:

    What damage could the recount possibly do to the Green Party?

    None whatsoever. When there is nothing to lose there is nothing to damage.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Peoples hard earned money going to her pipe dream does damage.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Peoples hard earned money going to her pipe dream does damage.

    Who or what does it damage?
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