Jill Stein for President

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    I have to interpret this two ways:

    1)Saying, "It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said" was original to me. Someone else probably has said that before but it came out of my head. I don't knowingly plagiarize (which I think means I simply don't plagiarize). If I read it elsewhere, I use quotes and cite the reference. Always.

    2) I don't know what number two is, PJ_Soul because I don't know what it that I said about whatever it is that is being said widely.

    (Opening notes to Led Zeppelin's "Communication Break Down" start in my head. da da/ da da/ da da/ da da/ daaaaaaaaaaaaa/ da da! )

    To paraphrase John Lydon (not sure of the exact wording), "The best way to resolve conflict is to just get it all out! Say it all, everything you have to say! And then have a great sense of humor in order to work things out."

    Spooky
    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/clinton-urges-fbi-to-explain-newly-uncovered-emails-1.3136284
    "Let's get it out," she said
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    I have to interpret this two ways:

    1)Saying, "It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said" was original to me. Someone else probably has said that before but it came out of my head. I don't knowingly plagiarize (which I think means I simply don't plagiarize). If I read it elsewhere, I use quotes and cite the reference. Always.

    2) I don't know what number two is, PJ_Soul because I don't know what it that I said about whatever it is that is being said widely.

    (Opening notes to Led Zeppelin's "Communication Break Down" start in my head. da da/ da da/ da da/ da da/ daaaaaaaaaaaaa/ da da! )

    To paraphrase John Lydon (not sure of the exact wording), "The best way to resolve conflict is to just get it all out! Say it all, everything you have to say! And then have a great sense of humor in order to work things out."

    I think this might clear it up Brian: I wasn't talking about your thought. I was still talking about Stein's thought. ;)
    Ah yes, I see!

    Oh but it's such a great quote and not meaning to be obnoxious but it is SO-O-O relevant today as the election nears:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    I have to interpret this two ways:

    1)Saying, "It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said" was original to me. Someone else probably has said that before but it came out of my head. I don't knowingly plagiarize (which I think means I simply don't plagiarize). If I read it elsewhere, I use quotes and cite the reference. Always.

    2) I don't know what number two is, PJ_Soul because I don't know what it that I said about whatever it is that is being said widely.

    (Opening notes to Led Zeppelin's "Communication Break Down" start in my head. da da/ da da/ da da/ da da/ daaaaaaaaaaaaa/ da da! )

    To paraphrase John Lydon (not sure of the exact wording), "The best way to resolve conflict is to just get it all out! Say it all, everything you have to say! And then have a great sense of humor in order to work things out."

    I think this might clear it up Brian: I wasn't talking about your thought. I was still talking about Stein's thought. ;)
    Ah yes, I see!

    Oh but it's such a great quote and not meaning to be obnoxious but it is SO-O-O relevant today as the election nears:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It is a great quote.
    So should America go all in with her?..........
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    I have to interpret this two ways:

    1)Saying, "It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said" was original to me. Someone else probably has said that before but it came out of my head. I don't knowingly plagiarize (which I think means I simply don't plagiarize). If I read it elsewhere, I use quotes and cite the reference. Always.

    2) I don't know what number two is, PJ_Soul because I don't know what it that I said about whatever it is that is being said widely.

    (Opening notes to Led Zeppelin's "Communication Break Down" start in my head. da da/ da da/ da da/ da da/ daaaaaaaaaaaaa/ da da! )

    To paraphrase John Lydon (not sure of the exact wording), "The best way to resolve conflict is to just get it all out! Say it all, everything you have to say! And then have a great sense of humor in order to work things out."

    I think this might clear it up Brian: I wasn't talking about your thought. I was still talking about Stein's thought. ;)
    Ah yes, I see!

    Oh but it's such a great quote and not meaning to be obnoxious but it is SO-O-O relevant today as the election nears:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    This is the truth.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    I have to interpret this two ways:

    1)Saying, "It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said" was original to me. Someone else probably has said that before but it came out of my head. I don't knowingly plagiarize (which I think means I simply don't plagiarize). If I read it elsewhere, I use quotes and cite the reference. Always.

    2) I don't know what number two is, PJ_Soul because I don't know what it that I said about whatever it is that is being said widely.

    (Opening notes to Led Zeppelin's "Communication Break Down" start in my head. da da/ da da/ da da/ da da/ daaaaaaaaaaaaa/ da da! )

    To paraphrase John Lydon (not sure of the exact wording), "The best way to resolve conflict is to just get it all out! Say it all, everything you have to say! And then have a great sense of humor in order to work things out."

    I think this might clear it up Brian: I wasn't talking about your thought. I was still talking about Stein's thought. ;)
    Ah yes, I see!

    Oh but it's such a great quote and not meaning to be obnoxious but it is SO-O-O relevant today as the election nears:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It is a great quote.
    So should America go all in with her?..........
    I see no reason why not too! The two leading candidates are career politicians. In other words, they really don't do much. Stein gets down to business. She wants an equitable, fair and just society. Is very concerned about environmental issues. Cares about the rights on indigenous people. Cares about all people, animals and the world we live in. What more could we ask for!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    She should win by default ... those other two candidates are the shits....
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    lukin2006 said:

    She should win by default ... those other two candidates are the shits....

    I totally agree, Lukin. I would not be difficult to find several reasons to both disqualify Clinton and Trump.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    brianlux said:

    lukin2006 said:

    She should win by default ... those other two candidates are the shits....

    I totally agree, Lukin. I would not be difficult to find several reasons to both disqualify Clinton and Trump.
    If it were easy someone would have found those reasons by now, no? Pretty sure there is currently no legal reason for either of them to be disqualified.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    lukin2006 said:

    She should win by default ... those other two candidates are the shits....

    I totally agree, Lukin. I would not be difficult to find several reasons to both disqualify Clinton and Trump.
    If it were easy someone would have found those reasons by now, no? Pretty sure there is currently no legal reason for either of them to be disqualified.
    To hell with legal reasons, I say. There are plenty of moral reasons for them to be disqualified starting with a) not acting like mature, intelligent leaders and spending more time berating the other rather than telling us how they will work to make the world better, b) not showing compassion for all people (including the Dakota Native Americans!) , and c) neither showing much if any concern about protecting the environment and the planet that sustains us and makes this whole shit-show possible. How could they miss that???
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    lukin2006 said:

    She should win by default ... those other two candidates are the shits....

    I totally agree, Lukin. I would not be difficult to find several reasons to both disqualify Clinton and Trump.
    If it were easy someone would have found those reasons by now, no? Pretty sure there is currently no legal reason for either of them to be disqualified.
    To hell with legal reasons, I say. There are plenty of moral reasons for them to be disqualified starting with a) not acting like mature, intelligent leaders and spending more time berating the other rather than telling us how they will work to make the world better, b) not showing compassion for all people (including the Dakota Native Americans!) , and c) neither showing much if any concern about protecting the environment and the planet that sustains us and makes this whole shit-show possible. How could they miss that???
    I am not defending them, I just don't see the point in talking about disqualification when they haven't done anything to be disqualified. Fantasizing about disqualification seems pretty useless to me.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    lukin2006 said:

    She should win by default ... those other two candidates are the shits....

    I totally agree, Lukin. I would not be difficult to find several reasons to both disqualify Clinton and Trump.
    If it were easy someone would have found those reasons by now, no? Pretty sure there is currently no legal reason for either of them to be disqualified.
    To hell with legal reasons, I say. There are plenty of moral reasons for them to be disqualified starting with a) not acting like mature, intelligent leaders and spending more time berating the other rather than telling us how they will work to make the world better, b) not showing compassion for all people (including the Dakota Native Americans!) , and c) neither showing much if any concern about protecting the environment and the planet that sustains us and makes this whole shit-show possible. How could they miss that???
    I am not defending them, I just don't see the point in talking about disqualification when they haven't done anything to be disqualified. Fantasizing about disqualification seems pretty useless to me.
    Yes and no. Wishing them away will do nothing. Pointing out the short comings of these candidates and of a process whereby we elect leaders who are not nearly what we want in leaders is at least the beginning of how we make progress and change happen. I believe in doing what I believe in or what makes sense with the hope (but not necessarily the expectation) that those actions will lead to the outcome I hope for.

    OK to call be an "idealist". :smile:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Bump
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    I'm voting by mail here in Helldorado County this weekend. The propositions in CA are numerous and some, as always, rather confusing. I'll take a little breather and bask in the joy of no qualms about filling in that little circle next to the name "Jill Stein". :smile:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    I'm voting by mail here in Helldorado County this weekend. The propositions in CA are numerous and some, as always, rather confusing. I'll take a little breather and bask in the joy of no qualms about filling in that little circle next to the name "Jill Stein". :smile:

    Go Brian!
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    It's outrageous that the world’s richest country doesn't provide healthcare as a right, like virtually all other developed nations.-Jill Stein
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,237
    I didn't know Dr. Jill Stein was a musician.

    American Dream · somebody's sister

    circuits to the sun

    ℗ 1999 Jill Stein and Ken Selcer

    Released on: 1999-01-01


    https://youtu.be/sx3zMIeHsgA
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    cutz said:

    I didn't know Dr. Jill Stein was a musician.

    American Dream · somebody's sister

    circuits to the sun

    ℗ 1999 Jill Stein and Ken Selcer

    Released on: 1999-01-01


    https://youtu.be/sx3zMIeHsgA

    Co-written by Bobby Womack no less. Very cool!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    this should be the first woman president, not corrupt Clinton
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    pjalive21 said:

    this should be the first woman president, not corrupt Clinton

    Jill Stein isn't even close to being suited for the position. I don't even think she is a very effective leader of the Green Party TBH. I don't have anything against her. She just doesn't have what it takes IMO, despite some good ideals.
    However, I would love to see Elizabeth Warren in the position. Not in the cards, obviously, but it would be great.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Just me, or has no one mentioned anything about her VP choice?

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