Jill Stein for President

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    Aging "star" desperate for attention. From pop star to children's book writer to... see Free's post above.

    It's a pretty icky thing to say. I never like seeing a woman degrade herself and try to sell it as edgy or whatever.
    It would have made more sense if she said this while campaigning for Trump. Just as disgusting, but would have been a better fit.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    Aging "star" desperate for attention. From pop star to children's book writer to... see Free's post above.

    It's a pretty icky thing to say. I never like seeing a woman degrade herself and try to sell it as edgy or whatever.
    Yes. Whether "aging" or not.

    I consider that aspect irrelevant, as the "acknowledge me and then some!" mindset, along with the skank factor itself, isn't limited to age, or even gender.

    Plus, why only blow jobs? Either way, I hope condoms and, if necessary, dental dams are used.

    (and must I give the usual disclaimer - up to anyone to choose what they do or don't share of their bodies, but this trend of figuratively or even literally spreading your cheeks and inviting people to use that as they wish...I just find it sad, as there is so much else, so much more, to a human being than their physical assets. Smoke and mirrors, imagery.)
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    Aging "star" desperate for attention. From pop star to children's book writer to... see Free's post above.

    It's a pretty icky thing to say. I never like seeing a woman degrade herself and try to sell it as edgy or whatever.
    It would have made more sense if she said this while campaigning for Trump. Just as disgusting, but would have been a better fit.
    If disgusting, then it's never a good fit.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    edited October 2016
    hedonist said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    Aging "star" desperate for attention. From pop star to children's book writer to... see Free's post above.

    It's a pretty icky thing to say. I never like seeing a woman degrade herself and try to sell it as edgy or whatever.
    Yes. Whether "aging" or not.

    I consider that aspect irrelevant, as the "acknowledge me and then some!" mindset, along with the skank factor itself, isn't limited to age, or even gender.

    Plus, why only blow jobs? Either way, I hope condoms and, if necessary, dental dams are used.

    (and must I give the usual disclaimer - up to anyone to choose what they do or don't share of their bodies, but this trend of figuratively or even literally spreading your cheeks and inviting people to use that as they wish...I just find it sad, as there is so much else, so much more, to a human being than their physical assets. Smoke and mirrors, imagery.)
    For sure. Her age never crossed my mind, not even after seeing others mention it. In one ear, out the other, because it is so totally irrelevant. My only focus was on her saying she'd trade sex for votes (or no votes). Like, you're saying you'll suck d*ck for your political cause? Really? It just objectifies all women to say shit like that. I know she didn't mean it, but still...
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Pretty good video about John Oliver on Stein's position on vaccines. Funny too.

    http://youtu.be/XdZQ0zzPxZA

    Oliver should do a segment on the number of recommended and sometimes required immunizations that are warranted as safe and/or effective.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    JC29856 said:

    Pretty good video about John Oliver on Stein's position on vaccines. Funny too.

    http://youtu.be/XdZQ0zzPxZA

    Oliver should do a segment on the number of recommended and sometimes required immunizations that are warranted as safe and/or effective.

    Pretty good stuff.

    "It takes a lot of courage to marginalize the already marginalized." Oliver really dropped the ball on that on. I used to like that guy.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Great video...I like the message. Those late night comedians aren't so funny...and I would like to know why people want to tune into a show just before bed and listen to more political bs that you hear all day, we need some time to tune out from that election or we all might need counselling. I thought his commentary was spot on...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The manufactured choice between a member of the billionaire class and a servant of the billionaire class is a lose-lose for working people.
    Jill Stein
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    Let's replace rigged trade deals that have offshored jobs, depressed wages, & undermined our sovereignty over our own economy & laws. #NoTPP

    — Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) October 27, 2016
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    edited October 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    Yes, it is a good quote, and you're right, it is too late. But one thing.... who in the fuck is silent right now??? Nobody, as far as I can tell. This issue is right up there in our faces everyday at the moment. So now what? I would rather turn to Bernie than Jill Stein for the answer to that question. And Bernie knows it will take generations of work on local levels, a lot of patience, a lot of individuals working together, but none of them can be plied by politics or money... possible? I doubt it. I hope so, but I doubt it. Certainly not in our lifetime. Maybe in a 100 or 200 years, people en masse will be enlightened enough. Or it will be an idiocracy. I think it could go either way right now. Meanwhile, as many people trying to do the right thing as possible is all that can be done, and hope the numbers grow over time.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    These write ins are making more noise than Stein.
    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/10/thinking_about_a_write-in_cand.html
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    This should be AMT's motto.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    What does that have to do with anything? :hushed:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    What does that have to do with anything? :hushed:
    Well he just said it's something that should be said... I just meant that it is something that is being said widely, so there is no should about it. It is being said.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    edited October 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    I have to interpret this two ways:

    1)Saying, "It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said" was original to me. Someone else probably has said that before but it came out of my head. I don't knowingly plagiarize (which I think means I simply don't plagiarize). If I read it elsewhere, I use quotes and cite the reference. Always.

    2) I don't know what number two is, PJ_Soul because I don't know what it that I said about whatever it is that is being said widely.

    (Opening notes to Led Zeppelin's "Communication Break Down" start in my head. da da/ da da/ da da/ da da/ daaaaaaaaaaaaa/ da da! )

    To paraphrase John Lydon (not sure of the exact wording), "The best way to resolve conflict is to just get it all out! Say it all, everything you have to say! And then have a great sense of humor in order to work things out."

    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:


    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    "Silence is not what democracy needs. Right now we have an election where, even the supporters of Hillary Clinton, the majority don't support Hillary; they just oppose Donald Trump. And the majority of Donald Trump supporters don't support him; they just oppose Hillary."
    -Jill Stein

    It's a good quote for sure.
    A little too late to the party though.
    As usual the people who care about politics and want real change didn't put them on the ballot.
    It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said.
    Well it's not exactly an original thought.
    I have to interpret this two ways:

    1)Saying, "It's never too early and it's never late to say what should be said" was original to me. Someone else probably has said that before but it came out of my head. I don't knowingly plagiarize (which I think means I simply don't plagiarize). If I read it elsewhere, I use quotes and cite the reference. Always.

    2) I don't know what number two is, PJ_Soul because I don't know what it that I said about whatever it is that is being said widely.

    (Opening notes to Led Zeppelin's "Communication Break Down" start in my head. da da/ da da/ da da/ da da/ daaaaaaaaaaaaa/ da da! )

    To paraphrase John Lydon (not sure of the exact wording), "The best way to resolve conflict is to just get it all out! Say it all, everything you have to say! And then have a great sense of humor in order to work things out."

    I think this might clear it up Brian: I wasn't talking about your thought. I was still talking about Stein's thought. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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