PJ meets with Hillary

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    edited October 2016
    josevolution said:

    So what I'm happy that the band is meeting with her ! How does it feel that the band you like does not share at all your political views ...

    I think Unsung may be frustrated that the band gave up on supporting the best candidate based on their views and just supporting whoever isn't a Republican. More of an integrity thing.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited October 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Ed was for Bernie- I'm guessing he's now for her because the other option is Trump. It's disappointing that he would support such a terrible individual (hrc). Apparently he's turning a blind eye like many so-called progressives around here

    Low quality troll post.
    You're calling me a troll, yet you continuously post some lame ass comments and when you get called out for them you just ignore them.

    Ed speaking some truth. He also sings something about Bernie in a song. I'll look it up when I get to my Pc
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Qjv4iU5r8
    Right, and if Bernie had won the nomination (that would have been wonderful), I'm sure they'd have attended his fundraiser instead of Hillary's. Point is, they are pretty obviously democrats, at least for the time being.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    JC29856 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Why does it bother you people who Pearl Jam endorses politically? Is it really that surprising that they endorse clinton? Does that make their music any less good? So odd.

    Doesn't make their music any less but I think some can question the lyrics and the passion about certain subjects. People change and so do their views perspectives.
    I wonder if Kurt was onto something I wonder if he would have evolved towards Ed or remained like Morello.
    I think it is totally legitimate and totally natural to consider the political views of a band that is political. I actually don't understand those who think the two can be separated at all. I don't think you can really separate the two with some bands, and PJ is one of those bands IMO. I know that some do indeed just ignore everything to do with politics when it comes to PJ.... which means they kind of close their minds to a lot of their best songs and the passions behind those songs. To me, that is strange. I know I wouldn't listen to some band that sings songs that support right wing politics and philosophies... of course, who wants to listen to music about how great restricting abortion rights, drug testing welfare recipients, and lowering taxes for the rich because of how effective trickle-down economics is?? :lol: Music and art in general seems to lend itself to the left wing because most artists are left wing ... I suppose that is unfortunate for right wingers, but there isn't much you can do about it.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    people here are surprised PJ is supporting the opponent of a racist, sexist, egotistical ahole who thinks it's ok to sexually assault women for President? really people?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    pjhawks said:

    people here are surprised PJ is supporting the opponent of a racist, sexist, egotistical ahole who thinks it's ok to sexually assault women for President? really people?

    Right?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
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    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Why does it bother you people who Pearl Jam endorses politically? Is it really that surprising that they endorse clinton? Does that make their music any less good? So odd.

    Doesn't make their music any less but I think some can question the lyrics and the passion about certain subjects. People change and so do their views perspectives.
    I wonder if Kurt was onto something I wonder if he would have evolved towards Ed or remained like Morello.
    I think it is totally legitimate and totally natural to consider the political views of a band that is political. I actually don't understand those who think the two can be separated at all. I don't think you can really separate the two with some bands, and PJ is one of those bands IMO. I know that some do indeed just ignore everything to do with politics when it comes to PJ.... which means they kind of close their minds to a lot of their best songs and the passions behind those songs. To me, that is strange. I know I wouldn't listen to some band that sings songs that support right wing politics and philosophies... of course, who wants to listen to music about how great restricting abortion rights, drug testing welfare recipients, and lowering taxes for the rich because of how effective trickle-down economics is?? :lol: Music and art in general seems to lend itself to the left wing because most artists are left wing ... I suppose that is unfortunate for right wingers, but there isn't much you can do about it.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    bootlegger10 said:

    josevolution said:

    So what I'm happy that the band is meeting with her ! How does it feel that the band you like does not share at all your political views ...

    I think Unsung may be frustrated that the band gave up on supporting the best candidate based on their views and just supporting whoever isn't a Republican. More of an integrity thing.
    Gave up on supporting the best candidate? But Bernie isn't a candidate anymore, so there really isn't much point in continuing to support him. And beyond that, looking at third party candidates, who are we to decide how they may view who is the best candidate?
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    bootlegger10 said:

    josevolution said:

    So what I'm happy that the band is meeting with her ! How does it feel that the band you like does not share at all your political views ...

    I think Unsung may be frustrated that the band gave up on supporting the best candidate based on their views and just supporting whoever isn't a Republican. More of an integrity thing.
    That makes no sense since Bernie isn't in the race. So how exactly did they give up on him? Can't support someone who isn't running.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/18/stop-the-next-president-from-waging-the-next-war/

    Remember the anger and passion on eds face and on his voice from the showbox, might need that again
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,767
    figured it out. the boys are worried they wont get in the hof , so they asked Hillary to rig the election into the hall for them. typical pay to play politics.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    JC29856 said:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/18/stop-the-next-president-from-waging-the-next-war/

    Remember the anger and passion on eds face and on his voice from the showbox, might need that again

    We'll see if we start a war with anyone in the axis of evil.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    mickeyrat said:

    figured it out. the boys are worried they wont get in the hof , so they asked Hillary to rig the election into the hall for them. typical pay to play politics.

    Yep. Both elections are clearly rigged. Believe me.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mickeyrat said:

    figured it out. the boys are worried they wont get in the hof , so they asked Hillary to rig the election into the hall for them. typical pay to play politics.

    Lol... Wonder if pj will address the controversy of cost to attend and who can attend thing they came out this year.
  • lukin2006
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    lukin2006 said:

    It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...

    For sure.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    lukin2006 said:

    It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...

    with respect to endless wars, there is no distinction
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    lukin2006 said:

    It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...

    Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,767
    Go Beavers said:

    lukin2006 said:

    It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...

    Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
    or any political figure unless you see that person in the mirror
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  • BS44325
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    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Free said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    unsung said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    unsung said:


    HughFreakingDillon said:

    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
    For starters:

    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/01/19496/defense-contractor-employees-give-most-money-hillary-clinton
    Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton has collected more than any other candidate in the 2016 race from employees tied to the 50 largest contractors with the U.S. Department of Defense — at least $454,994 in campaign funds over a 14-month period ending in February.
    That means zero. If she increases military spending, that is a far cry from being war loving. Come on. Trump is the one saying he's going to bomb the shit out of an ideology. She's been talking about diplomacy.


    She loved war in Libya and the US is at war in Iraq right now.

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