So what I'm happy that the band is meeting with her ! How does it feel that the band you like does not share at all your political views ...
I think Unsung may be frustrated that the band gave up on supporting the best candidate based on their views and just supporting whoever isn't a Republican. More of an integrity thing.
Ed was for Bernie- I'm guessing he's now for her because the other option is Trump. It's disappointing that he would support such a terrible individual (hrc). Apparently he's turning a blind eye like many so-called progressives around here
Low quality troll post.
You're calling me a troll, yet you continuously post some lame ass comments and when you get called out for them you just ignore them.
Right, and if Bernie had won the nomination (that would have been wonderful), I'm sure they'd have attended his fundraiser instead of Hillary's. Point is, they are pretty obviously democrats, at least for the time being.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why does it bother you people who Pearl Jam endorses politically? Is it really that surprising that they endorse clinton? Does that make their music any less good? So odd.
Doesn't make their music any less but I think some can question the lyrics and the passion about certain subjects. People change and so do their views perspectives. I wonder if Kurt was onto something I wonder if he would have evolved towards Ed or remained like Morello.
I think it is totally legitimate and totally natural to consider the political views of a band that is political. I actually don't understand those who think the two can be separated at all. I don't think you can really separate the two with some bands, and PJ is one of those bands IMO. I know that some do indeed just ignore everything to do with politics when it comes to PJ.... which means they kind of close their minds to a lot of their best songs and the passions behind those songs. To me, that is strange. I know I wouldn't listen to some band that sings songs that support right wing politics and philosophies... of course, who wants to listen to music about how great restricting abortion rights, drug testing welfare recipients, and lowering taxes for the rich because of how effective trickle-down economics is?? Music and art in general seems to lend itself to the left wing because most artists are left wing ... I suppose that is unfortunate for right wingers, but there isn't much you can do about it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
people here are surprised PJ is supporting the opponent of a racist, sexist, egotistical ahole who thinks it's ok to sexually assault women for President? really people?
people here are surprised PJ is supporting the opponent of a racist, sexist, egotistical ahole who thinks it's ok to sexually assault women for President? really people?
Right?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why does it bother you people who Pearl Jam endorses politically? Is it really that surprising that they endorse clinton? Does that make their music any less good? So odd.
Doesn't make their music any less but I think some can question the lyrics and the passion about certain subjects. People change and so do their views perspectives. I wonder if Kurt was onto something I wonder if he would have evolved towards Ed or remained like Morello.
I think it is totally legitimate and totally natural to consider the political views of a band that is political. I actually don't understand those who think the two can be separated at all. I don't think you can really separate the two with some bands, and PJ is one of those bands IMO. I know that some do indeed just ignore everything to do with politics when it comes to PJ.... which means they kind of close their minds to a lot of their best songs and the passions behind those songs. To me, that is strange. I know I wouldn't listen to some band that sings songs that support right wing politics and philosophies... of course, who wants to listen to music about how great restricting abortion rights, drug testing welfare recipients, and lowering taxes for the rich because of how effective trickle-down economics is?? Music and art in general seems to lend itself to the left wing because most artists are left wing ... I suppose that is unfortunate for right wingers, but there isn't much you can do about it.
So what I'm happy that the band is meeting with her ! How does it feel that the band you like does not share at all your political views ...
I think Unsung may be frustrated that the band gave up on supporting the best candidate based on their views and just supporting whoever isn't a Republican. More of an integrity thing.
Gave up on supporting the best candidate? But Bernie isn't a candidate anymore, so there really isn't much point in continuing to support him. And beyond that, looking at third party candidates, who are we to decide how they may view who is the best candidate?
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
So what I'm happy that the band is meeting with her ! How does it feel that the band you like does not share at all your political views ...
I think Unsung may be frustrated that the band gave up on supporting the best candidate based on their views and just supporting whoever isn't a Republican. More of an integrity thing.
That makes no sense since Bernie isn't in the race. So how exactly did they give up on him? Can't support someone who isn't running.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
figured it out. the boys are worried they wont get in the hof , so they asked Hillary to rig the election into the hall for them. typical pay to play politics.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
figured it out. the boys are worried they wont get in the hof , so they asked Hillary to rig the election into the hall for them. typical pay to play politics.
Yep. Both elections are clearly rigged. Believe me.
figured it out. the boys are worried they wont get in the hof , so they asked Hillary to rig the election into the hall for them. typical pay to play politics.
Lol... Wonder if pj will address the controversy of cost to attend and who can attend thing they came out this year.
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
with respect to endless wars, there is no distinction
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
or any political figure unless you see that person in the mirror
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.
I find myself drifting further and further away.
Wish they'd stick to the music.
"Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.
Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.
Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.
So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton has collected more than any other candidate in the 2016 race from employees tied to the 50 largest contractors with the U.S. Department of Defense — at least $454,994 in campaign funds over a 14-month period ending in February.
That means zero. If she increases military spending, that is a far cry from being war loving. Come on. Trump is the one saying he's going to bomb the shit out of an ideology. She's been talking about diplomacy.
She loved war in Libya and the US is at war in Iraq right now.
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
It's very good, but that ship sailed after the primaries.
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
It's very good, but that ship sailed after the primaries.
Nowhere does it say do we have to be partial to one of the two "chosen" ones.
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
It's very good, but that ship sailed after the primaries.
Nowhere does it say do we have to be partial to one of the two "chosen" ones.
Obviously. And depending on your state, a vote for the 3rd or the 4th is a vote for Trump or Hillary.
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
It's very good, but that ship sailed after the primaries.
It was never going to change, the dems and republicans are war mongers ... so unless a third party emerges at some point I fully expect the US bully meddling war mongering ways to continue...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
It's very good, but that ship sailed after the primaries.
Nowhere does it say do we have to be partial to one of the two "chosen" ones.
That's correct, except the sheeple will do as they always do trudge off vote for the same bullshiters, and wonder in awww when nothing really changes...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
It's very good, but that ship sailed after the primaries.
Nowhere does it say do we have to be partial to one of the two "chosen" ones.
That's correct, except the sheeple will do as they always do trudge off vote for the same bullshiters, and wonder in awww when nothing really changes...
It's there money and apparantley a free country so they can go and support whoever they choose. Everyone might want to reconsider claiming your anti-war if you support either a republican or democrat, or at least the facts indicate that neither party is a party of peace...
Or you could consider that you're not going to have a president align 100% with your own beliefs.
Being anti war is a good believe system, I would think supporting candidates with those same beliefs would also be good...
It's very good, but that ship sailed after the primaries.
Nowhere does it say do we have to be partial to one of the two "chosen" ones.
That's correct, except the sheeple will do as they always do trudge off vote for the same bullshiters, and wonder in awww when nothing really changes...
Are you calling Hillary supporters sheeple?
All voters of the main parties are sheeple...nothing changes, lots of of bullshit and empty promises.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Well it's going to take a lot more that an election for the stuff you're talking about to change. Doesn't matter who the elected POTUS is in that context. A new POTUS isn't going to cause the kind of change you're talking about. The only thing that will cause the changes you (and most people, I think) want will be something more along the lines of a revolution or rewriting law and maybe the constitution itself. Stuff like that. I personally think that the kind of change you're talking about can't happen as long as the USA is ruled under a so-called democratic republic system. That is not something even the best POTUS is going to achieve without most likely starting a civil war. So given that, this election, the best thing to do is minimize damages. And that means not allowing Trump to win. He could do a LOT of damage if he won. Hillary is indeed the status quo, and yeah, I know, we all hate that. But for now, the status quo is the only short term (i.e. 4 - 8 year) option unless you want someone who won't only maintain all the things about the status quo that you hate, but also cause new irreparable harm. So the only logical path is to make sure Clinton wins in order to minimize long lasting harm, and then let it seep through your skull that you need a different idea about how to make these righteous changes people are always talking about here. It will take decades if not centuries. The entire US system of government has to change.... not to mention society, the position of the wealthy, the concept of power, human nature.... yeah, it's not so simple and Clinton not winning an election, lol. That wouldn't even be a good start. It would be nothing except bad because Trump.
..... not that Trump has a chance in hell of winning at this point. Before the video came out I was still worried, but not anymore. He reached full-scale meltdown. Unless Clinton actually is arrested, I don't think there is any possibility of a Trump win now.... I guess anything is possible though, lol. Maybe that idiot Assange (sad, I used to like him, but not anymore because he seems to have gone crazy) really does have a smoking gun. Maybe he hates Americans so much that he'll save it until election day. Or the day after.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why do people care about which candidate a rock band supports? I could care less. I love pj s music but they would never influence me to vote for either candidate.
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we will find a way, we will find our place
Remember the anger and passion on eds face and on his voice from the showbox, might need that again
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
She loved war in Libya and the US is at war in Iraq right now.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
..... not that Trump has a chance in hell of winning at this point. Before the video came out I was still worried, but not anymore. He reached full-scale meltdown. Unless Clinton actually is arrested, I don't think there is any possibility of a Trump win now.... I guess anything is possible though, lol. Maybe that idiot Assange (sad, I used to like him, but not anymore because he seems to have gone crazy) really does have a smoking gun. Maybe he hates Americans so much that he'll save it until election day. Or the day after.