PJ meets with Hillary

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    There has never been a time when they stuck to the music.
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,693
    edited October 2016
    Not surprising but id love it if they spoke out against both candidates. Two corporate scumbags, both filled with hate and fakeness.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Not surprising but id love it if they spoke out against both candidates. Two corporate scumbags, both filled with hate and fakeness.

    This is what I was hoping for too, that they would see past the façade.

    It is kind of typical that they would do this, but to actually give money to attend Hillary's fundraiser? Shoot me.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    Ed was for Bernie- I'm guessing he's now for her because the other option is Trump. It's disappointing that he would support such a terrible individual (hrc). Apparently he's turning a blind eye like many so-called progressives around here
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    tonifig8 said:

    Ed was for Bernie- I'm guessing he's now for her because the other option is Trump. It's disappointing that he would support such a terrible individual (hrc). Apparently he's turning a blind eye like many so-called progressives around here

    When was Ed for Bernie?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    tonifig8 said:

    Ed was for Bernie- I'm guessing he's now for her because the other option is Trump. It's disappointing that he would support such a terrible individual (hrc). Apparently he's turning a blind eye like many so-called progressives around here

    Low quality troll post.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't know if it's fair to pile on unsung about his (her?) disappointment. I just had a daydream about PJ stepping up and supporting Trump. I'm pretty sure I'd turn off the band if that happened. I'd be too disgusted, and I would lose all respect for them as human beings. I guess I can imagine that unsung is feeling a bit like that now. Of course, the difference is that this move is completely predictable and obvious, whereas if they turned around and supported Trump it would be absolutely shocking. So maybe the timing of unsung's disappointment is really really late.

    For future reference I am a man.

    No, it's not unexpected that the band leans left or is. It is unexpected that they would endorse someone that will continue if not escalate George W Bush foreign policy. At least with Obama he kind of sold things hook line and sinker, there's no mistaking that Clinton wants more war.
  • unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    edited October 2016
    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't know if it's fair to pile on unsung about his (her?) disappointment. I just had a daydream about PJ stepping up and supporting Trump. I'm pretty sure I'd turn off the band if that happened. I'd be too disgusted, and I would lose all respect for them as human beings. I guess I can imagine that unsung is feeling a bit like that now. Of course, the difference is that this move is completely predictable and obvious, whereas if they turned around and supported Trump it would be absolutely shocking. So maybe the timing of unsung's disappointment is really really late.

    For future reference I am a man.

    No, it's not unexpected that the band leans left or is. It is unexpected that they would endorse someone that will continue if not escalate George W Bush foreign policy. At least with Obama he kind of sold things hook line and sinker, there's no mistaking that Clinton wants more war.
    Thanks for clarification, lol.
    I just figured that if they strongly supported Obama, the logical assumption would be that they support Clinton since their view points and planned policies are pretty much the same if you're painting it with a big brush. Plus the Trump factor and the lesson learned from Nader.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
  • unsung said:

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
    I honestly don't care. I'm not going to give them shit for it any more than I would give any other individual shit for who they support.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    unsung said:

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
    For starters:

    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/01/19496/defense-contractor-employees-give-most-money-hillary-clinton
    Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton has collected more than any other candidate in the 2016 race from employees tied to the 50 largest contractors with the U.S. Department of Defense — at least $454,994 in campaign funds over a 14-month period ending in February.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    There's that ^^^^
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    edited October 2016
    oops
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  • Free said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
    For starters:

    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/01/19496/defense-contractor-employees-give-most-money-hillary-clinton
    Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton has collected more than any other candidate in the 2016 race from employees tied to the 50 largest contractors with the U.S. Department of Defense — at least $454,994 in campaign funds over a 14-month period ending in February.
    That means zero. If she increases military spending, that is a far cry from being war loving. Come on. Trump is the one saying he's going to bomb the shit out of an ideology. She's been talking about diplomacy.
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  • Free said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
    For starters:

    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/01/19496/defense-contractor-employees-give-most-money-hillary-clinton
    Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton has collected more than any other candidate in the 2016 race from employees tied to the 50 largest contractors with the U.S. Department of Defense — at least $454,994 in campaign funds over a 14-month period ending in February.
    Were they small dollar donations and multiple donors or were they like trump donators, who on average, gave $507,000 each in the last reporting cycle? 99,099 $50 donations or something else? Context is everything. I guess freedom of speech only matters if you're a corporation.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    edited October 2016
    Free said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
    For starters:

    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/01/19496/defense-contractor-employees-give-most-money-hillary-clinton
    Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton has collected more than any other candidate in the 2016 race from employees tied to the 50 largest contractors with the U.S. Department of Defense — at least $454,994 in campaign funds over a 14-month period ending in February.
    And instead of all the Berniebros whining about Bernie losing and the evil Hillary fixing the primaries, they focus their ire and zeal on the congress to pass meaningful campaign finance reform? Get the obscene amount of money out of politics and a lot of this shit goes away, exclusive of attracting better, higher quality candidates.
    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016

    Free said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
    For starters:

    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/01/19496/defense-contractor-employees-give-most-money-hillary-clinton
    Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton has collected more than any other candidate in the 2016 race from employees tied to the 50 largest contractors with the U.S. Department of Defense — at least $454,994 in campaign funds over a 14-month period ending in February.
    That means zero. If she increases military spending, that is a far cry from being war loving. Come on. Trump is the one saying he's going to bomb the shit out of an ideology. She's been talking about diplomacy.



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    http://www.theglobalist.com/is-hillary-clinton-a-warmonger/

    http://swampland.time.com/2014/01/14/hillary-clintons-unapologetically-hawkish-record-faces-2016-test/

    Other than these two, there is so much info on the web because of her hawkish warmonger behavior. Just look at what she's voted for. She can say anything right now, it doesn't negate what she has done all of these years of experience.

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    Post edited by Free on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    3 straight elections in a row supporting the endless war party...just doesn't make sense
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Congratulations, you're getting a female George W. Bush.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    edited October 2016
    unsung said:

    Congratulations, you're getting a female George W. Bush.

    Come on, she's way smarter than GW Bush. :lol: (also, that's not a good comparison in any case)
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  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2016

    tonifig8 said:

    Ed was for Bernie- I'm guessing he's now for her because the other option is Trump. It's disappointing that he would support such a terrible individual (hrc). Apparently he's turning a blind eye like many so-called progressives around here

    Low quality troll post.
    You're calling me a troll, yet you continuously post some lame ass comments and when you get called out for them you just ignore them.

    Ed speaking some truth. He also sings something about Bernie in a song. I'll look it up when I get to my Pc
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Qjv4iU5r8
    Post edited by Boxes&Books on
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Why does it bother you people who Pearl Jam endorses politically? Is it really that surprising that they endorse clinton? Does that make their music any less good? So odd.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Ed was for Bernie- I'm guessing he's now for her because the other option is Trump. It's disappointing that he would support such a terrible individual (hrc). Apparently he's turning a blind eye like many so-called progressives around here

    Low quality troll post.
    You're calling me a troll, yet you continuously post some lame ass comments and when you get called out for them you just ignore them.

    Ed speaking some truth. He also sings something about Bernie in a song. I'll look it up when I get to my Pc
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Qjv4iU5r8
    Which ones did I ignore?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016

    Why does it bother you people who Pearl Jam endorses politically? Is it really that surprising that they endorse clinton? Does that make their music any less good? So odd.

    Doesn't make their music any less but I think some can question the lyrics and the passion about certain subjects. People change and so do their views perspectives.
    I wonder if Kurt was onto something I wonder if he would have evolved towards Ed or remained like Morello.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    Kurt Cobain? Like Morello?
  • KC138045KC138045 Posts: 2,716
    I don't support either of the two dipshits running for President and I could care less who PJ does support. I don't go to concerts and buy the merch because of their political views. Its just about the music for me.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    edited October 2016

    unsung said:

    unsung said:


    unsung said:

    How disheartening.

    It's odd. I was one of the first in the fan club. The excitement that they brought. Chills.

    I find myself drifting further and further away.

    Wish they'd stick to the music.

    "Unless, of course, they agree with my politics."
    Don't put quotes on something if I hadn't said it.

    Kind of tough these days to find bands that don't sell out in some fashion.
    Kind of obvious I put quotes on it so others knew it wasn't my opinion, but how I perceive others' opinion on the matter.

    Why is it selling out? The band is passionate about not having a war loving woman hating buffoon machine in office. As many of us are. The current system gave the US these two candidates. It is imperative the correct one is chosen.

    So it's ok to support a war loving woman?
    I saw you posted something similar in the ither thread. How is she war loving?
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/jill_stein_hillary_clintons_declared_syria_policy_could_start_a_nuclear_war.html

    Jill Stein even agrees that she is more dangerous

    and then this.....

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3831457/Hillary-Clinton-launches-astonishing-attack-Russia-accusing-Putin-war-crimes-attributing-leaks-hacker-efforts-help-Trump.html

    Post edited by pjalive21 on
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