THE DEBATES 2016

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,657
    Kat said:

    I've forgiven some Presidents' bad mistakes but with Bush it's different. Every time I hear his name, I think about the almost 4,500 military people and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who died in the Iraq war and are still dying. It's not forgivable with me. :(

    Agreed. I can admit that he's gained a more gentle and affable demeanor which can be seen as appealing, but that will never change the fact of what he did as President, and I don't believe that people change THAT much. He's still the same guy who arbitrarily decided to attack a nation and kill innocent people for no reason other than money and ego. Becoming relaxed and happy in his retirement doesn't wipe out that fact.... In fact, it might make him an even bigger creep at the end of the day, since he's obviously walking around with absolutely no regrets about the catastrophic results of his actions. I would say that he's probably managed to reconcile all that via his Born-Again righteousness, but actually I don't think he would feel like he needs to seek forgiveness from his God for anything he did. After all, according to him and Laura, God handpicked him for the job in the first place and he was just doing God's work.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    benjs said:

    LOL !!!! I didn't watch it because I know who I'm voting for anyway but I did see highlights and comments on the interweb....
    your gal Hillary bot her ass handed to her.

    Godfather.

    If you didn't watch the debate then do us all a favour and shut up, as you have no right to comment on an event you did not witness (and I mean all disrespect). Those of us who did, witnessed something extraordinarily shocking and pathetic. The fact that you would purposely deny yourself access to seeing a politician's true colours so that you can vote for the politician you've painted in your mind instead of the politician actually running, speaks volumes about your ignorance.
    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH ! good grief man was the lose so bad that your anger is getting the best of you ? ......breath, deep in easy out and then hold your tong down with a spoon so you don't swallow it, feel better yet ? one more time just to make sure LOL !!!!!


    Godfather.

    Why would you even comment on something you didn't see?
    there are few folks on here that didn't see it but still had something to say so what's your point ?

    Godfather.

    Oh, well then that comment goes out to all of them as well. My point is much like Trump, you and the others who didn't see the debate jump to conclusions without facts.
    ohhhh there's that magic word again "FACTS" I'm sure the others just as myself have watched the replays on the internet and read the comments and news articles but go ahead with the "facts" I'm still reading.

    Godfather.

    it just boggles my mind that you keep putting the word fact in quotation, like facts are not to be trusted. don't let facts get in the way of a good story!
    because they keep using the word like it means something.....what proven facts are they talking about ? I'm supposed to believe everything they say as "fact" ?

    Godfather.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,657

    benjs said:

    LOL !!!! I didn't watch it because I know who I'm voting for anyway but I did see highlights and comments on the interweb....
    your gal Hillary bot her ass handed to her.

    Godfather.

    If you didn't watch the debate then do us all a favour and shut up, as you have no right to comment on an event you did not witness (and I mean all disrespect). Those of us who did, witnessed something extraordinarily shocking and pathetic. The fact that you would purposely deny yourself access to seeing a politician's true colours so that you can vote for the politician you've painted in your mind instead of the politician actually running, speaks volumes about your ignorance.
    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH ! good grief man was the lose so bad that your anger is getting the best of you ? ......breath, deep in easy out and then hold your tong down with a spoon so you don't swallow it, feel better yet ? one more time just to make sure LOL !!!!!


    Godfather.

    Why would you even comment on something you didn't see?
    there are few folks on here that didn't see it but still had something to say so what's your point ?

    Godfather.

    Oh, well then that comment goes out to all of them as well. My point is much like Trump, you and the others who didn't see the debate jump to conclusions without facts.
    ohhhh there's that magic word again "FACTS" I'm sure the others just as myself have watched the replays on the internet and read the comments and news articles but go ahead with the "facts" I'm still reading.

    Godfather.

    it just boggles my mind that you keep putting the word fact in quotation, like facts are not to be trusted. don't let facts get in the way of a good story!
    because they keep using the word like it means something.....what proven facts are they talking about ? I'm supposed to believe everything they say as "fact" ?

    Godfather.

    No, you're supposed to believe that actual facts are facts, lol.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Free said:

    eddiec said:

    lukin2006 said:

    benjs said:

    LOL !!!! I didn't watch it because I know who I'm voting for anyway but I did see highlights and comments on the interweb....
    your gal Hillary bot her ass handed to her.

    Godfather.

    If you didn't watch the debate then do us all a favour and shut up, as you have no right to comment on an event you did not witness (and I mean all disrespect). Those of us who did, witnessed something extraordinarily shocking and pathetic. The fact that you would purposely deny yourself access to seeing a politician's true colours so that you can vote for the politician you've painted in your mind instead of the politician actually running, speaks volumes about your ignorance.
    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH ! good grief man was the lose so bad that your anger is getting the best of you ? ......breath, deep in easy out and then hold your tong down with a spoon so you don't swallow it, feel better yet ? one more time just to make sure LOL !!!!!


    Godfather.

    Why would you even comment on something you didn't see?
    there are few folks on here that didn't see it but still had something to say so what's your point ?

    Godfather.

    I saw 10 minutes of it, am I allowed to comment, good to see the forum police are active. My comment, that's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back, all I saw was a clown to the left and a joker to the right ... what a fucking joke politics are these days...
    There were other candidates. These are the two winners that people voted in. Maybe that's where the problem is.

    Not all voted in these 2 clowns. The corrupt system does not allow a 3rd party candidate to debate w/out a sizable percentage. Let them speak!
    I agree, but let's be completely honest here. The best thing for Johnson is to sit the first couple of debates out. He is not good on his feet and would have gotten destroyed last night. Johnson doesn't speak well when he's being asked questions that he's been prepped on, let alone questions he doesn't know that's coming.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    benjs said:

    LOL !!!! I didn't watch it because I know who I'm voting for anyway but I did see highlights and comments on the interweb....
    your gal Hillary bot her ass handed to her.

    Godfather.

    If you didn't watch the debate then do us all a favour and shut up, as you have no right to comment on an event you did not witness (and I mean all disrespect). Those of us who did, witnessed something extraordinarily shocking and pathetic. The fact that you would purposely deny yourself access to seeing a politician's true colours so that you can vote for the politician you've painted in your mind instead of the politician actually running, speaks volumes about your ignorance.
    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH ! good grief man was the lose so bad that your anger is getting the best of you ? ......breath, deep in easy out and then hold your tong down with a spoon so you don't swallow it, feel better yet ? one more time just to make sure LOL !!!!!


    Godfather.

    Trump very clearly lost that debate and couldn't keep composure, and btw, he also really looked like shit, with weirdly bloodshot eyes and some kind of breathing problem and he couldn't stop drinking water - I think he's dying, heh heh, too bad you didn't watch since you can tell what people's medical problems are just by looking at them apparently. The annoyance is from your assertion that you didn't bother to watch but somehow invented an opinion about the debate anyway. I won't say it myself, but the "shut up" handed to you is well deserved.
    AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH !!!!!! that's it ? but then again your personal attacks have always been sketchy at best.
    be nice.

    Godfather.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited September 2016
    i like how all these polls being posted the people interviewed were mostly democrats by almost a 3-1 margin...lets get real..The Hill, Huffington Post, and CNN?

    Both hit with pretty good comments but the whole debate lacked substance...this is what we are stuck with folks
    Post edited by pjalive21 on
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Kat said:

    I've forgiven some Presidents' bad mistakes but with Bush it's different. Every time I hear his name, I think about the almost 4,500 military people and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who died in the Iraq war and are still dying. It's not forgivable with me. :(

    bush did not invent the military industrial complex ... it has been a core fundamental pillar of US foreign policy for a long time ... it hasn't changed under obama nor is it to change under clinton ...
  • sorry I missed it (aside from highlights) it sounds like this debate has humbled some folks, the next one will be like the shoot-out at the O.K corral I'm sure.
    think about this though...Trump is so new to the political arena that finding dirt on him is nearly impossible(aside from business deals and past wives), he hasn't had the time or experience's to do or get caught doing anything like Hillary has. Emails and servers, Benghazi, political lies to the people, adversaries' dyeing before court dates or hearings, this woman has been around the block .....30 years ! and to tell you the truth I almost have to admire her and Bill because who else can pull off murder, blatant bold faced lies and a number of crimes other people went to prison for, this is the face of professional politics' and she's running for POTUS ! she is the Gangsters Gangster, the capo di tutti capi, and to lie to the faces of the mothers who lost their son's in Benghazi....that's a true criminal with no remorse or compassion.
    now as far as trump goes, who knows ? time will tell.

    Godfather.

    What? Some people really need to learn to move on. Benghazi was dealt with. 7 times to be specific. There is no evidence that Clinton did anything illegal. The email were deals with by the FBI. They didn't have the evidence to support charges. What the hell do you need to keep hearing Clinton say I won't do it again? There's nothing else to say about it. And I'd love for you or anyone to produce a shred of evidence that shows bill or Hillary murdered or had anyone murdered. Some of the most absurd notions I've ever heard.

    There is plenty of dirt that can be dug up on trump. He's a sexist, racist, shrewd business man. All of the dirt has been dug up. What have you been watching/reading for the past year?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    polaris_x said:

    Kat said:

    I've forgiven some Presidents' bad mistakes but with Bush it's different. Every time I hear his name, I think about the almost 4,500 military people and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who died in the Iraq war and are still dying. It's not forgivable with me. :(

    bush did not invent the military industrial complex ... it has been a core fundamental pillar of US foreign policy for a long time ... it hasn't changed under obama nor is it to change under clinton ...
    Agree
  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    I didn't watch the debates but saw the commentary immediately prior and agree with the comments that Trump and Clinton may be the 2 most unpopular presidential candidates ever. It's the worser of 2 evils. We are not going to be much better off with either.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528

    sorry I missed it (aside from highlights) it sounds like this debate has humbled some folks, the next one will be like the shoot-out at the O.K corral I'm sure.
    think about this though...Trump is so new to the political arena that finding dirt on him is nearly impossible(aside from business deals and past wives), he hasn't had the time or experience's to do or get caught doing anything like Hillary has. Emails and servers, Benghazi, political lies to the people, adversaries' dyeing before court dates or hearings, this woman has been around the block .....30 years ! and to tell you the truth I almost have to admire her and Bill because who else can pull off murder, blatant bold faced lies and a number of crimes other people went to prison for, this is the face of professional politics' and she's running for POTUS ! she is the Gangsters Gangster, the capo di tutti capi, and to lie to the faces of the mothers who lost their son's in Benghazi....that's a true criminal with no remorse or compassion.
    now as far as trump goes, who knows ? time will tell.

    Godfather.

    What? Some people really need to learn to move on. Benghazi was dealt with. 7 times to be specific. There is no evidence that Clinton did anything illegal. The email were deals with by the FBI. They didn't have the evidence to support charges. What the hell do you need to keep hearing Clinton say I won't do it again? There's nothing else to say about it. And I'd love for you or anyone to produce a shred of evidence that shows bill or Hillary murdered or had anyone murdered. Some of the most absurd notions I've ever heard.

    There is plenty of dirt that can be dug up on trump. He's a sexist, racist, shrewd business man. All of the dirt has been dug up. What have you been watching/reading for the past year?
    "Facts", I have the best "facts".
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Smellyman said:

    Clinton doesn't even have to try and still mop the floor with Trump's toupee. The fact we debate if Clinton 'won' the debate should make any half conscious human question reality.

    The problem is the average Trump (God)voter doesn't care and most didn't even watch.

    How can you say this? It was not an undeniable win for Clinton. There are many things Trump brought up on her that she did not answer.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    PP193448 said:

    I didn't watch the debates but saw the commentary immediately prior and agree with the comments that Trump and Clinton may be the 2 most unpopular presidential candidates ever. It's the worser of 2 evils. We are not going to be much better off with either.
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    Exactly.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Her headset must have cut out at those times.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    unsung said:

    Her headset must have cut out at those times.

    I don't think either had earpieces, I did look.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Free said:

    Smellyman said:

    Clinton doesn't even have to try and still mop the floor with Trump's toupee. The fact we debate if Clinton 'won' the debate should make any half conscious human question reality.

    The problem is the average Trump (God)voter doesn't care and most didn't even watch.

    How can you say this? It was not an undeniable win for Clinton. There are many things Trump brought up on her that she did not answer.
    It takes some heavy bias to deny that it was a win for Clinton.
    Nobody is claiming she was perfect, but she trounced him and the only thing that could make a person think otherwise is an inability to overcome personal dislike for her.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    Smellyman said:

    Clinton doesn't even have to try and still mop the floor with Trump's toupee. The fact we debate if Clinton 'won' the debate should make any half conscious human question reality.

    The problem is the average Trump (God)voter doesn't care and most didn't even watch.

    How can you say this? It was not an undeniable win for Clinton. There are many things Trump brought up on her that she did not answer.
    It takes some heavy bias to deny that it was a win for Clinton.
    Nobody is claiming she was perfect, but she trounced him and the only thing that could make a person think otherwise is an inability to overcome personal dislike for her.
    Clinton didn't win but Trump lost.
  • Smellyman said:

    Clinton doesn't even have to try and still mop the floor with Trump's toupee. The fact we debate if Clinton 'won' the debate should make any half conscious human question reality.

    The problem is the average Trump (God)voter doesn't care and most didn't even watch.

    100million people watched this debate... That's a third of the country...