A "protester" shot another "protester"... can we please stop calling them "Protesters"?

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,845
    edited September 2016
    JC29856 said:

    Did they find the civilian who shot the protestor with his gun yet? Are they looking for him? With all those people and cops around they must have a good description? They must know which way he fled?

    I would imagine the opposite. Get a large rowdy crowd together like that, only a few are going to know who actually fired the gun, and they probably fled just as quickly. You may have 100 witnesses that can tell you which way the gunfire came from, but probably only very few who actually saw the guy and they wont be talking. That's the point of the mob mentality and why it leads to pointless looting and riots, no one feels responsible because it is so difficult to catch anyone in a situation like that.

    I'm curious because I cant tell from your response. Are you asking that question hypothetically as a way to make a statement? And what would that statement be?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    muskydan said:

    JC29856 said:

    Did they find the civilian who shot the protestor with his gun yet? Are they looking for him? With all those people and cops around they must have a good description? They must know which way he fled?

    Sheeeeeet, we didn't see nuttin Office...
    I'm driving back from lunch listening to local sports talk radio, I enjoy listening to eagles super bowl talk every few years, anyway they break to the news and say, the Carolina Panthers are considering a venue change in light of the recent protests over a black man being shot and killed by a black police officer.
    What?
    I've never heard any news report where the color of skin of the person shot AND the color of the skin of the cop shooter was included in the report.
    Very strange to say the least.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,845
    JC29856 said:

    muskydan said:

    JC29856 said:

    Did they find the civilian who shot the protestor with his gun yet? Are they looking for him? With all those people and cops around they must have a good description? They must know which way he fled?

    Sheeeeeet, we didn't see nuttin Office...
    I'm driving back from lunch listening to local sports talk radio, I enjoy listening to eagles super bowl talk every few years, anyway they break to the news and say, the Carolina Panthers are considering a venue change in light of the recent protests over a black man being shot and killed by a black police officer.
    What?
    I've never heard any news report where the color of skin of the person shot AND the color of the skin of the cop shooter was included in the report.
    Very strange to say the least.
    You hear it when they are of different colors. Cant remember a time when they emphasized it when it was the same tough, like what you just quoted.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mace1229 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Did they find the civilian who shot the protestor with his gun yet? Are they looking for him? With all those people and cops around they must have a good description? They must know which way he fled?

    I would imagine the opposite. Get a large rowdy crowd together like that, only a few are going to know who actually fired the gun, and they probably fled just as quickly. You may have 100 witnesses that can tell you which way the gunfire came from, but probably only very few who actually saw the guy and they wont be talking. That's the point of the mob mentality and why it leads to pointless looting and riots, no one feels responsible because it is so difficult to catch anyone in a situation like that.

    I'm curious because I cant tell from your response. Are you asking that question hypothetically as a way to make a statement? And what would that statement be?
    Usually when there is a shooting, especially with so many police around, a description of events and of the suspect is released. Sometimes they offer a reward to catch and convict the suspect. I haven't seen any.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    they're not "protesters" they're "rioters" maybe that person should have stayed home instead of rioting.

    Godfather.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    After a second night of angry protests over the fatal shooting of Keith Scott by a police officer in Charlotte, North Carolina, the city’s police chief admitted that dashcam video of the incident, which has not been made public, does not include “absolute, definitive, visual evidence that would confirm that a person is pointing a gun.”



    https://theintercept.com/2016/09/22/charlotte-police-chief-refuses-to-release-dashcam-video-of-officer-killing-keith-scott/
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Justin Carr dead.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    Who's making excuses?

    I will add, white privilege does grant us the right to dictate terms!

    No such thing.
    You mean I'm hallucinating all these comments in the race threads?
    Racism exists but to claim white privilege is to let the oppressors off the hook for treating people badly.

    You don't bring one group down because another is treated unfairly, that's what claiming white privilege does. Instead we should be demanding that everyone be treated at a higher level up.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Who's making excuses?

    I will add, white privilege does grant us the right to dictate terms!

    No such thing.
    You mean I'm hallucinating all these comments in the race threads?
    Racism exists but to claim white privilege is to let the oppressors off the hook for treating people badly.

    You don't bring one group down because another is treated unfairly, that's what claiming white privilege does. Instead we should be demanding that everyone be treated at a higher level up.
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Who's making excuses?

    I will add, white privilege does grant us the right to dictate terms!

    No such thing.
    You mean I'm hallucinating all these comments in the race threads?
    Racism exists but to claim white privilege is to let the oppressors off the hook for treating people badly.

    You don't bring one group down because another is treated unfairly, that's what claiming white privilege does. Instead we should be demanding that everyone be treated at a higher level up.
    Kind of the opposite: denying white privilege exists lets the opressor off the hook, because it's existence is a result of discrimination. It perpetuates it because people conclude "all you have to do is work hard and be responsible like me, and you'll succeed".
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It's a cop out and it plays the victim card.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    unsung said:

    It's a cop out and it plays the victim card.

    No, it's an awareness.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    edited September 2016
    It's reality, however someone wants to respond to it is up to them. There's no card being played.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    edited September 2016
    dignin said:

    unsung said:

    It's a cop out and it plays the victim card.

    No, it's an awareness.
    No, it is a way for certain liberals to feel better than others because they think they get something others don't. Now continue brainwashing our youth into feeling bad about themselves and their ancestry.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    It's just a fact, however someone feels about it is their own responsibility.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Woe is me!!!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    dignin said:

    unsung said:

    It's a cop out and it plays the victim card.

    No, it's an awareness.
    No, it is a way for certain liberals to feel better than others because they think they get something others don't. Now continue brainwashing our youth into feeling bad about themselves and their ancestry.
    You can feel as bad as you want. I don't feel one ounce of guilt. I can be aware of the advantages that I have had and not feel guilty about it, but still fight for others to have the same opportunity. I have never once said I feel guilty, that's just an ignorant conservative talking point. A strawman.

    It's pretty eye opening when I hear opinion after opinion of white guys that think they have the same uphill climb as a black guy, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

    Obama was elected president after all....therefore racism no longer exists in America.

    Also, we all have ancestors who have had to struggle through tough circumstances to survive and get us to where we are now...so lets not pretend that you or anyone else has a patent on hard luck ancestors. Can we drop that stupid point already?
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013

    dignin said:

    unsung said:

    It's a cop out and it plays the victim card.

    No, it's an awareness.
    No, it is a way for certain liberals to feel better than others because they think they get something others don't. Now continue brainwashing our youth into feeling bad about themselves and their ancestry.
    Another guy that gets IT...Bravo
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    muskydan said:

    dignin said:

    unsung said:

    It's a cop out and it plays the victim card.

    No, it's an awareness.
    No, it is a way for certain liberals to feel better than others because they think they get something others don't. Now continue brainwashing our youth into feeling bad about themselves and their ancestry.
    Another guy that gets IT...Bravo
    You're saying racism doesn't exist?
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013

    muskydan said:

    dignin said:

    unsung said:

    It's a cop out and it plays the victim card.

    No, it's an awareness.
    No, it is a way for certain liberals to feel better than others because they think they get something others don't. Now continue brainwashing our youth into feeling bad about themselves and their ancestry.
    Another guy that gets IT...Bravo
    You're saying racism doesn't exist?
    No freakin Way!!!! You would believe how hard it was for me and others to get promoted solely due to our race.