police kill unarmed black man

jeffbr · September 2016

muskydan said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

muskydan said:

Godfather. said:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html

I've already read some stuff that the victim was reaching into his car after repeated orders to get on the ground or something like that
but anyway there's anot riot (free shopping day and right to violence)

just thought this could use it's own thread rather than derail another one.

Godfather.
Nailed it GF..."free shopping day and right to violence". You see the video of those savages dancing and destroying the squad car? They love and need this shit....they must not have gotten the memo it was a black officer and the asshole had a gun...scratch that, none of that matters anymore.
"savages"????
What part of the above described behavior by those people not Savage like? You see the video?

Uncivilized, barbarian, violent, primitive. Unfortunately, the PC police have taken savage and turned it into a racist word, much like thug. I'm old enough that I grew up using thug and savage without regard to color or race. They describe(d) behavior. If someone is opposed to the use of those words, then it is perhaps they who have an issue with race. i don't think race when I see those words (until hyper-sensitive people point out that these are their trigger words and they need to run to a safe space). PC police don't get to redefine words. I will continue to use thug and savage where appropriate. And yes, white people can and have historically been savages. Same with natives, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc... Again, the word describes behavior.

Go Beavers · September 2016

PC police aren't redefining words. Thug is almost exclusively used for black people. Pay attention when you see it used. It's the new N word.

Godfather. · September 2016

JC29856 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:
Black man takes a knee during national anthem at a sporting event.
National shit loss for weeks on end!

Disabled black man takes a bullet reading a book waiting for his kid at bus stop.
Protests and looting not cool.
that story is not true, book-gun, drop it-no reply, gun found near suspect.

Godfather.
1:35 minutes ago

just enough time to enjoy a good loot and riot ...

Godfather.

jeffbr · September 2016

Go Beavers said:
PC police aren't redefining words. Thug is almost exclusively used for black people. Pay attention when you see it used. It's the new N word.

Nope. This same thing came up with thug in another thread. There are those who only see color when they hear the word, and those who don't. I am shocked an appalled when I hear the N word. That is clearly racist and unacceptable. But savage and thug are accurate descriptors for uncivilized behavior without regard to race. If one is using it in a racist way, then sure, knock it off. And just because Tupac thought he was hard, and adopted the thug label, doesn't mean the rest of us have to fall in line. I never gave two shits about Tupac, or his phoney thuggery. Thug predates Tupac by centuries.

Godfather. · September 2016

Gern Blansten said:
Maybe they should come out with that information much sooner than they do....not saying the riots are justified but it shouldn't take the chief of police this long to issue a response.

tough one there man, before any details of a police officer involved shooting I believe there is an investigation right ?
any time you hear about this stuff early or as it happens it's because of the media who only want ratings and half truths to
get you interested.

Godfather.

Go Beavers · September 2016

All you have to do is pay attention to when thug is used. Nearly all the time, it's used for black people. You might think your usage is different. That's fine. Maybe you've called white people thugs in an amt thread that had to do with whites behaving badly.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · September 2016

jeffbr said:

Go Beavers said:
PC police aren't redefining words. Thug is almost exclusively used for black people. Pay attention when you see it used. It's the new N word.
Nope. This same thing came up with thug in another thread. There are those who only see color when they hear the word, and those who don't. I am shocked an appalled when I hear the N word. That is clearly racist and unacceptable. But savage and thug are accurate descriptors for uncivilized behavior without regard to race. If one is using it in a racist way, then sure, knock it off. And just because Tupac thought he was hard, and adopted the thug label, doesn't mean the rest of us have to fall in line. I never gave two shits about Tupac, or his phoney thuggery. Thug predates Tupac by centuries.

Agreed.

This word is a good word and has not been stolen to be used exclusively for black people misbehaving. It's appropriate for all thugs whether they are are purple, white, black or roygbiv.

The thread where this was discussed offered multiple examples of the term used for white people (Vancouver and Australia government officials in the public forum).

PP193448 · September 2016

Google search thug
thug
THəɡ/
noun
1.
a violent person, especially a criminal.
synonyms: ruffian, hooligan, vandal, hoodlum, gangster, villain, criminal; More
2.
historical
a member of a religious organization of robbers and assassins in India. Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travelers, in a ritually prescribed manner. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s.

Thug should actually only be used for Indian criminals...

JC29856 · September 2016

Go Beavers said:
All you have to do is pay attention to when thug is used. Nearly all the time, it's used for black people. You might think your usage is different. That's fine. Maybe you've called white people thugs in an amt thread that had to do with whites behaving badly.

Senator Paul Byrd like saying "white" N-words. Just FYI

Godfather. · September 2016

all you have to do is pay attention to who uses the word most to describe themselves, thug life, thug this, thug that ...you're
race baiting with the cards stacked against you on that one.

Godfather.

eddiec · September 2016

jeffbr said:

muskydan said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

muskydan said:

Godfather. said:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html

I've already read some stuff that the victim was reaching into his car after repeated orders to get on the ground or something like that
but anyway there's anot riot (free shopping day and right to violence)

just thought this could use it's own thread rather than derail another one.

Godfather.
Nailed it GF..."free shopping day and right to violence". You see the video of those savages dancing and destroying the squad car? They love and need this shit....they must not have gotten the memo it was a black officer and the asshole had a gun...scratch that, none of that matters anymore.
"savages"????
What part of the above described behavior by those people not Savage like? You see the video?
Uncivilized, barbarian, violent, primitive. Unfortunately, the PC police have taken savage and turned it into a racist word, much like thug. I'm old enough that I grew up using thug and savage without regard to color or race. They describe(d) behavior. If someone is opposed to the use of those words, then it is perhaps they who have an issue with race. i don't think race when I see those words (until hyper-sensitive people point out that these are their trigger words and they need to run to a safe space). PC police don't get to redefine words. I will continue to use thug and savage where appropriate. And yes, white people can and have historically been savages. Same with natives, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc... Again, the word describes behavior.

I disagree. Racist people have adopted the word 'Savages' because they can no longer get away with the word 'nigger'.

HughFreakingDillon · September 2016

jeffbr said:

muskydan said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

muskydan said:

Godfather. said:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html

I've already read some stuff that the victim was reaching into his car after repeated orders to get on the ground or something like that
but anyway there's anot riot (free shopping day and right to violence)

just thought this could use it's own thread rather than derail another one.

Godfather.
Nailed it GF..."free shopping day and right to violence". You see the video of those savages dancing and destroying the squad car? They love and need this shit....they must not have gotten the memo it was a black officer and the asshole had a gun...scratch that, none of that matters anymore.
"savages"????
What part of the above described behavior by those people not Savage like? You see the video?
Uncivilized, barbarian, violent, primitive. Unfortunately, the PC police have taken savage and turned it into a racist word, much like thug. I'm old enough that I grew up using thug and savage without regard to color or race. They describe(d) behavior. If someone is opposed to the use of those words, then it is perhaps they who have an issue with race. i don't think race when I see those words (until hyper-sensitive people point out that these are their trigger words and they need to run to a safe space). PC police don't get to redefine words. I will continue to use thug and savage where appropriate. And yes, white people can and have historically been savages. Same with natives, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc... Again, the word describes behavior.

you know the french word for aboriginals? "les sauvages". so yeah, I actually don't have an issue with thug. But I have do have an issue with savage. it does describe behaviour, but more often than not it describes the behaviour of a certain group of people. non-whites.

g under p · September 2016

eddiec said:

jeffbr said:

muskydan said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

muskydan said:

Godfather. said:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html

I've already read some stuff that the victim was reaching into his car after repeated orders to get on the ground or something like that
but anyway there's anot riot (free shopping day and right to violence)

just thought this could use it's own thread rather than derail another one.

Godfather.
Nailed it GF..."free shopping day and right to violence". You see the video of those savages dancing and destroying the squad car? They love and need this shit....they must not have gotten the memo it was a black officer and the asshole had a gun...scratch that, none of that matters anymore.
"savages"????
What part of the above described behavior by those people not Savage like? You see the video?
Uncivilized, barbarian, violent, primitive. Unfortunately, the PC police have taken savage and turned it into a racist word, much like thug. I'm old enough that I grew up using thug and savage without regard to color or race. They describe(d) behavior. If someone is opposed to the use of those words, then it is perhaps they who have an issue with race. i don't think race when I see those words (until hyper-sensitive people point out that these are their trigger words and they need to run to a safe space). PC police don't get to redefine words. I will continue to use thug and savage where appropriate. And yes, white people can and have historically been savages. Same with natives, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc... Again, the word describes behavior.
I disagree. Racist people have adopted the word 'Savages' because they can no longer get away with the word 'nigger'.

You know now that I think about it there COULD be some truth to to that. At one time long ago the American Indians were described in that way as a way of saying they were the lowest of the low of society back then. Even though they were peaceful Indians many were just fighting to protect and keep their land.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/us/keith-scott-charlotte-police-shooting.html?_r=0

Well, it now appears there was no book and that there was a gun involved in this shooting. If so and it appears so not much should come any further after an investigation has been concluded to the officers involved. It's very unfortunate the city has erupted like it has, that should not have happened however over the years with built up resistance to the Charlotte police force this violence seemed likely.

Peace

jeffbr · September 2016

HughFreakingDillon said:

jeffbr said:

muskydan said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

muskydan said:

Godfather. said:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html

I've already read some stuff that the victim was reaching into his car after repeated orders to get on the ground or something like that
but anyway there's anot riot (free shopping day and right to violence)

just thought this could use it's own thread rather than derail another one.

Godfather.
Nailed it GF..."free shopping day and right to violence". You see the video of those savages dancing and destroying the squad car? They love and need this shit....they must not have gotten the memo it was a black officer and the asshole had a gun...scratch that, none of that matters anymore.
"savages"????
What part of the above described behavior by those people not Savage like? You see the video?
Uncivilized, barbarian, violent, primitive. Unfortunately, the PC police have taken savage and turned it into a racist word, much like thug. I'm old enough that I grew up using thug and savage without regard to color or race. They describe(d) behavior. If someone is opposed to the use of those words, then it is perhaps they who have an issue with race. i don't think race when I see those words (until hyper-sensitive people point out that these are their trigger words and they need to run to a safe space). PC police don't get to redefine words. I will continue to use thug and savage where appropriate. And yes, white people can and have historically been savages. Same with natives, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc... Again, the word describes behavior.
you know the french word for aboriginals? "les sauvages". so yeah, I actually don't have an issue with thug. But I have do have an issue with savage. it does describe behaviour, but more often than not it describes the behaviour of a certain group of people. non-whites.

Interesting perspective, and I can understand how that would shape your view of the word. I didn't know that about the French word, and have no frame of reference for that usage. I know that in Canada with labeling laws you're bombarded with French language, so I can see how this would strike a nerve. It sounds like the French and/or Quebecois have bastardized the word, or perhaps we (English speakers) have. But really, that usage doesn't show up in English dictionaries (Oxford, Merriam-Webster, Cambridge English, etc...). Oxford does show the origin:
Middle English: from Old French sauvage wild, from Latin silvaticus of the woods, from silva a wood.

I do promise to never use the word savage while visiting Canada!

muskydan · September 2016

jeffbr said:

muskydan said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

muskydan said:

Godfather. said:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html

I've already read some stuff that the victim was reaching into his car after repeated orders to get on the ground or something like that
but anyway there's anot riot (free shopping day and right to violence)

just thought this could use it's own thread rather than derail another one.

Godfather.
Nailed it GF..."free shopping day and right to violence". You see the video of those savages dancing and destroying the squad car? They love and need this shit....they must not have gotten the memo it was a black officer and the asshole had a gun...scratch that, none of that matters anymore.
"savages"????
What part of the above described behavior by those people not Savage like? You see the video?
Uncivilized, barbarian, violent, primitive. Unfortunately, the PC police have taken savage and turned it into a racist word, much like thug. I'm old enough that I grew up using thug and savage without regard to color or race. They describe(d) behavior. If someone is opposed to the use of those words, then it is perhaps they who have an issue with race. i don't think race when I see those words (until hyper-sensitive people point out that these are their trigger words and they need to run to a safe space). PC police don't get to redefine words. I will continue to use thug and savage where appropriate. And yes, white people can and have historically been savages. Same with natives, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc... Again, the word describes behavior.

Bingo. Now here is someone who gets it.

HughFreakingDillon · September 2016

muskydan said:

jeffbr said:

muskydan said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

muskydan said:

Godfather. said:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html

I've already read some stuff that the victim was reaching into his car after repeated orders to get on the ground or something like that
but anyway there's anot riot (free shopping day and right to violence)

just thought this could use it's own thread rather than derail another one.

Godfather.
Nailed it GF..."free shopping day and right to violence". You see the video of those savages dancing and destroying the squad car? They love and need this shit....they must not have gotten the memo it was a black officer and the asshole had a gun...scratch that, none of that matters anymore.
"savages"????
What part of the above described behavior by those people not Savage like? You see the video?
Uncivilized, barbarian, violent, primitive. Unfortunately, the PC police have taken savage and turned it into a racist word, much like thug. I'm old enough that I grew up using thug and savage without regard to color or race. They describe(d) behavior. If someone is opposed to the use of those words, then it is perhaps they who have an issue with race. i don't think race when I see those words (until hyper-sensitive people point out that these are their trigger words and they need to run to a safe space). PC police don't get to redefine words. I will continue to use thug and savage where appropriate. And yes, white people can and have historically been savages. Same with natives, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc... Again, the word describes behavior.
Bingo. Now here is someone who gets it.

you could use the same argument for the N word. many racists will argue the N word is only used to describe the "bad" black people, not the good ones.

there is something to be said about being too PC. I get that. But on the other end, there is also something to be said about being a decent human and changing with the times and being sensitive to others. it's not all about you.

josevolution · September 2016

Yeah can't wait for Trump to be president he will know what to do with the savages I'm sure no ?

muskydan · September 2016

josevolution said:
Yeah can't wait for Trump to be president he will know what to do with the savages I'm sure no ?

I agree with your first part however Nobody know's how to handle the Savages like the ones in Carolina...that Fraud and complete failure that has been in there the last 8 years sure as shit doesn't. Boy did we ever get some CHANGE Alright....

PP193448 · September 2016

People are just too sensitive nowadays... Where's Dave Chappelle when you need him

Go Beavers · September 2016

PP193448 said:
People are just too sensitive nowadays... Where's Dave Chappelle when you need him

What's interesting is what group people think are too sensitive.

police kill unarmed black man

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