Bernie Sanders
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Very true.fife said:
congressmen and woman do have term limits, its called voting. I understand that it is very hard to get a person out of office but what has to happen is that people have to vote not just during the main elections but also during the mid terms elections.0 -
I don't blame the President for this reality, but recognizing that the various levels of government aren't collaborating right now, why would you expect this to change with a President without deep party ties and with a much larger delta between himself and prevalent D & R positions? There's not going to be a sudden substantial deviation in the way these entities act in the face of opposition, and a reliance on the Executive Order certainly isn't the right approach for a candidate who preaches giving a voice to the people (i.e. bringing back something which closer resembles democracy). I've said it too many times to count here, but long-lasting tangible change takes efforts, and it takes stepping stones - you can't attempt to jump from Point A to Point Q and expect short- or long-term success.Free said:
I disagree. The job of Congress is to work with and compromise w/ the sitting president. It's not being done now, and you can't blame the president for that. You're suggesting that we wait to vote in the appropriate representatives that would work with a progressive president? And how long would that take? When congressmen and women do not have term limits?'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Well, unless you know people who are having actual psychological problems in terms of fearing such natural disasters (yeah, millions of people dying and extreme destruction is a disaster no matter what, doesn't matter if it's natural), then I don't think anyone needs help coping with the thought. I think it is very normal and healthy for people to have some level of fear when it comes to Mother Nature. It is, as you should appreciate, a natural occurrence!brianlux said:
I have to say it again (and then you can give me hell for being so adamant, LOL) There are no "natural disasters", just natural occurrences.
I wish I knew how to help people with worrying about things like earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, etc. For whatever reason, I don't worry about such things. I'm way more concerned about the harm humans can incur, both on a large scale and on a personal scale. I've been hurt far more severely and more often by people than by nature... so far anyway. And I would much rather die by lightening stick than gunshot.
Nature is our last natural predator.
There is nothing natural about what we do to ourselves, for sure. But at least there are preventative measures we can take. It's preventable, technically. Humans can change and improve. I see hope there. Not so with stuff like super-volcanos. It's not like it keeps me up at night, but yeah, I have a healthy fear of it because I don't fucking wanna be smothered in ash until I die while the rivers turn black, thank you very much.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I guess that's why I don't fear the Big Shit Mother Nature Can Throw at Us. We can't do a damn thing about it and viewed objectively, most of that Big Stuff is pretty (literally) awesome. But what we as humans do to cause havoc and misery, that we can change!PJ_Soul said:
Well, unless you know people who are having actual psychological problems in terms of fearing such natural disasters (yeah, millions of people dying and extreme destruction is a disaster no matter what, doesn't matter if it's natural), then I don't think anyone needs help coping with the thought. I think it is very normal and healthy for people to have some level of fear when it comes to Mother Nature. It is, as you should appreciate, a natural occurrence! Nature is our last natural predator.
There is nothing natural about what we do to ourselves, for sure. But at least there are preventative measures we can take. It's preventable, technically. Humans can change and improve. I see hope there. Not so with stuff like super-volcanos. It's not like it keeps me up at night, but yeah, I have a healthy fear of it because I don't fucking wanna be smothered in ash until I die while the rivers turn black, thank you very much."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
OK, so in the past Bernie was more in favor of voting for third candidates and later in life decided the best way to make a change was to go at it as a Democrat and now is not in favor of voting third party. First of all, this is only about this particular election. Like many here, Bernie is worried about Trump getting elected. Fair enough. I still am in favor of voting for a third party candidate but just because Bernie evolved to a different place that way doesn't, to me anyway, make him a whore.JC29856 said:
If someone is a vegetarian and later in life decides to be an omnivore, does that make them a whore?
If someone hates free jazz but later in life becomes an Albert Ayler fan, does that make them a whore? Is so, I'm a whore. Whore whore whore whore!
There, feel better?
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Hey Brian...what about HRC? Do you cut her the same break since she was a "Goldwater Girl" when she was 16/17?brianlux said:
OK, so in the past Bernie was more in favor of voting for third candidates and later in life decided the best way to make a change was to go at it as a Democrat and now is not in favor of voting third party. First of all, this is only about this particular election. Like many here, Bernie is worried about Trump getting elected. Fair enough. I still am in favor of voting for a third party candidate but just because Bernie evolved to a different place that way doesn't, to me anyway, make him a whore.
If someone is a vegetarian and later in life decides to be an omnivore, does that make them a whore?
If someone hates free jazz but later in life becomes an Albert Ayler fan, does that make them a whore? Is so, I'm a whore. Whore whore whore whore!
There, feel better?0 -
brianlux said:
OK, so in the past Bernie was more in favor of voting for third candidates and later in life decided the best way to make a change was to go at it as a Democrat and now is not in favor of voting third party. First of all, this is only about this particular election. Like many here, Bernie is worried about Trump getting elected. Fair enough. I still am in favor of voting for a third party candidate but just because Bernie evolved to a different place that way doesn't, to me anyway, make him a whore.
If someone is a vegetarian and later in life decides to be an omnivore, does that make them a whore?
If someone hates free jazz but later in life becomes an Albert Ayler fan, does that make them a whore? Is so, I'm a whore. Whore whore whore whore!
There, feel better? 0 -
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Knowing she was only 16 or 17, sure. And in any case, everybody is free to change. In fact, it's often a good idea. But in this case, I don't see the change or at least not solid evidence of it.mrussel1 said:
Hey Brian...what about HRC? Do you cut her the same break since she was a "Goldwater Girl" when she was 16/17?
Oh, and the sad thing about all this is, people are getting divided over this mess, over two candidates that don't add up to beans on Sunday. To be at odds with somebody over this fiasco of an election is the shits. Bummer!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Bernie rallying his 150 and 300 Ohio supporters!
Stronger together!
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/bernie-bust-150-turn-sanders-ohio-stop-hillary/
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Interesting, because the only things I really fear are the things were we can't do anything! It's that hopelessness that I guess makes me fearful. Of course I worry about the harm humans do all the time, and feel anger and frustration about it, but since there is hope there too, it's just the same as fear for me. Yet I fear, say, the "big one" here - I fear that my building will collapse into the underground parking lot, specifically, but feel absolutely no anger or frustration about it, obviously, and those emotions are much more vexing for me.brianlux said:
I guess that's why I don't fear the Big Shit Mother Nature Can Throw at Us. We can't do a damn thing about it and viewed objectively, most of that Big Stuff is pretty (literally) awesome. But what we as humans do to cause havoc and misery, that we can change!With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'm with brianlux, but I totally understand where you're coming from, PJ_Soul! It took me many years to accept that things out of my control are just that. It's worth analyzing whether they can become within my control, but if logic dictates that that's not possible - it's not worth my finite energy, and certainly not worth my anxiety (if I die from being struck by a drunk driver, so be it, but I'm not going to stay inside).PJ_Soul said:
Interesting, because the only things I really fear are the things were we can't do anything! It's that hopelessness that I guess makes me fearful. Of course I worry about the harm humans do all the time, and feel anger and frustration about it, but since there is hope there too, it's just the same as fear for me. Yet I fear, say, the "big one" here - I fear that my building will collapse into the underground parking lot, specifically, but feel absolutely no anger or frustration about it, obviously, and those emotions are much more vexing for me.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Surviving near death a number of times has probably made me a little too unafraid of both natural and unnatural disasters/occurrences. Probably best to maintain a healthy degree of caution but yes, Ben, not to the point of staying inside or hiding from life."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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I'm with you, Brianbrianlux said:Surviving near death a number of times has probably made me a little too unafraid of both natural and unnatural disasters/occurrences. Probably best to maintain a healthy degree of caution but yes, Ben, not to the point of staying inside or hiding from life.
Somewhere between Evel Knievel and Howard Hughes. '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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That's for sure!tonifig8 said:this guy was the real deal.
http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/bernie-sanders-most-popular/
...Still the most popular.Post edited by Free on0 -
Just got back from Glen Hansard in Toronto...
He still wants Bernie0 -
Of course he's still the most popular. He's no longer in the race, so no one is slinging anything at him. Why would anyone bother?Free said:my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Ha! Me too. What a great show, eh!BS44325 said:Just got back from Glen Hansard in Toronto...
He still wants Bernie'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Amazing! Wish i knew you were there.benjs said:
Ha! Me too. What a great show, eh!0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FF3GImC8Ky0
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