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  • Free
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    fife said:

    Free said:

    benjs said:

    brianlux said:

    Hysterical. Just hysterical. Thank you for proving my point. Good night.


    And just for more shits and giggles, Toniflig, (or whatever your name is) can you please quote me where I "dehumanized" Trump in any other another thread? I'm trying to recall the last time I said anything about Trump. It may have been Easter when I told a story about my brother who loves Trump and I had to endure his similarly unhinged view of the world. I believe I dehumanized my brother in that thread. In fact, my view of Trump is that he would be relatively harmless because I believe as a president he'll never accomplish anything. Kind of like Bernie. A one term do-nothing president, he would be. Clinton might get some things done. Maybe not. Who knows. She's a flawed human being as well. My consistent opinion has always been that we are all flawed human beings, and I'm okay with Clinton's warts.

    I also happen to be a thyroid cancer survivor. When I read people ripping Clinton to shreds through 10 pages because she has a thyroid condition and it makes her unqualified to be president, it kind of pisses me off. You may see that as whatever you wish. Who cares. I see you as a member of the unhinged electorate. Too bad that I really hit a nerve.

    Interesting. Maybe try scrolling up.


    As for HRC's thyroid condition, no that should not be a big issue here. Three very important women in my life have or had a thyroid conditions and or cancer. But HRC's overall health is what is more important and might factor in if she can't muscle through the next few months.

    And the fact remains, there are plenty of other issues that make HRC problematic as potential president. And this- we all know how politics work- drag any old thing out you can to bash the other candidate. Business as usual.

    Bit it wouldn't have been if Sanders had been nominated. No way near to the degree it is between HRC and The Donald. But maybe we don't want an election. Maybe we just want a circus. Curious, we Americans.

    It's a bummer that Bernie is not the candidate and Stein won't win of course but look father down the path. It's not all desert.


    Honestly, I really feel that the first left-leaning POTUS in ages needs to have the first left-leaning support system (i.e. House and Senate) in ages. The first of anything in the US government carries the weight of setting a precedent. All African-American Presidential candidates will be compared to Obama. All female Presidential candidates will be compared to Clinton. When someone like Sanders sits in office, he must possess the ability to drive major change without the bullshit of power-seizing/maintaining in the House and Senate. For the liberalization of America to penetrate the government levels, this can't be a game of checkers, it must be chess.
    I disagree. The job of Congress is to work with and compromise w/ the sitting president. It's not being done now, and you can't blame the president for that. You're suggesting that we wait to vote in the appropriate representatives that would work with progressive president? And how long would that take? When congressmen and women do not have term limits?
    congressmen and woman do have term limits, its called voting. I understand that it is very hard to get a person out of office but what has to happen is that people have to vote not just during the main elections but also during the mid terms elections.
    Very true.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Free said:

    benjs said:

    brianlux said:

    Hysterical. Just hysterical. Thank you for proving my point. Good night.


    And just for more shits and giggles, Toniflig, (or whatever your name is) can you please quote me where I "dehumanized" Trump in any other another thread? I'm trying to recall the last time I said anything about Trump. It may have been Easter when I told a story about my brother who loves Trump and I had to endure his similarly unhinged view of the world. I believe I dehumanized my brother in that thread. In fact, my view of Trump is that he would be relatively harmless because I believe as a president he'll never accomplish anything. Kind of like Bernie. A one term do-nothing president, he would be. Clinton might get some things done. Maybe not. Who knows. She's a flawed human being as well. My consistent opinion has always been that we are all flawed human beings, and I'm okay with Clinton's warts.

    I also happen to be a thyroid cancer survivor. When I read people ripping Clinton to shreds through 10 pages because she has a thyroid condition and it makes her unqualified to be president, it kind of pisses me off. You may see that as whatever you wish. Who cares. I see you as a member of the unhinged electorate. Too bad that I really hit a nerve.

    Interesting. Maybe try scrolling up.


    As for HRC's thyroid condition, no that should not be a big issue here. Three very important women in my life have or had a thyroid conditions and or cancer. But HRC's overall health is what is more important and might factor in if she can't muscle through the next few months.

    And the fact remains, there are plenty of other issues that make HRC problematic as potential president. And this- we all know how politics work- drag any old thing out you can to bash the other candidate. Business as usual.

    Bit it wouldn't have been if Sanders had been nominated. No way near to the degree it is between HRC and The Donald. But maybe we don't want an election. Maybe we just want a circus. Curious, we Americans.

    It's a bummer that Bernie is not the candidate and Stein won't win of course but look father down the path. It's not all desert.


    Honestly, I really feel that the first left-leaning POTUS in ages needs to have the first left-leaning support system (i.e. House and Senate) in ages. The first of anything in the US government carries the weight of setting a precedent. All African-American Presidential candidates will be compared to Obama. All female Presidential candidates will be compared to Clinton. When someone like Sanders sits in office, he must possess the ability to drive major change without the bullshit of power-seizing/maintaining in the House and Senate. For the liberalization of America to penetrate the government levels, this can't be a game of checkers, it must be chess.
    I disagree. The job of Congress is to work with and compromise w/ the sitting president. It's not being done now, and you can't blame the president for that. You're suggesting that we wait to vote in the appropriate representatives that would work with a progressive president? And how long would that take? When congressmen and women do not have term limits?
    I don't blame the President for this reality, but recognizing that the various levels of government aren't collaborating right now, why would you expect this to change with a President without deep party ties and with a much larger delta between himself and prevalent D & R positions? There's not going to be a sudden substantial deviation in the way these entities act in the face of opposition, and a reliance on the Executive Order certainly isn't the right approach for a candidate who preaches giving a voice to the people (i.e. bringing back something which closer resembles democracy). I've said it too many times to count here, but long-lasting tangible change takes efforts, and it takes stepping stones - you can't attempt to jump from Point A to Point Q and expect short- or long-term success.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    edited September 2016
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    What Dreams, what's with the world being on the brink of destruction? Do you know something we don't, like a giant meteor heading our way? It's definitely a changing world and anthropogenically damaged world but unless something cataclysmic like a massive meteor coming, the world will carry one and re-establish new balances. Humans on the other hand- yeah, we're doing a good job of putting ourselves on the endangered species list. If that concerns you, Bernie would have been a better pick that HRC or Trump. And even better than Bernie is Stein.

    But really, is avoiding our (and other animal's) extinction what America wants? Doesn't seem so to me. Seems to me America wants:

    -A "strong, vigorous economy" (mass consumption with little or no regard to limits to resources).

    -Lots of crap to buy to satisfy our instant gratification ADHD buying habits.

    -Wars, crashing cars at auto races, football injuries, trauma drama, and all sorts of other kinds of violence.

    -The continuation of suburbia and car culture.

    -Greasy food and sweets.

    -Mind numbing amusement (the word come from a (lack of) musing (thinking). Like amoral, only amusement.)

    These were not high on Bernie's list of priorities and certainly not on Stein's. They are major factors for the other candidates. Don't get mad at me for saying this. If you look at it, you can't deny this is true.


    I'm thinking the Yellowstone super volcano.... (no, seriously). :fearful:
    I know. That kind of shares the shit out of me. That will be the end of this civilization
    To me, the difference between, say, nuclear annihilation and Yellowstone super volcano would be like the difference between dying a slow rotting death due to exposure to chemicals and being struck and killed by lightening. In both cases I think the latter are so much more desirable. There are human disasters but there is no such thing as a natural disaster. There are just natural occurrences. If Yellowstone want to blow her top (or bottom in this case), let 'er rip. I want to be there to see it!
    I don't disagree at all. The difference is that we have zero control on Yellowstone. At least with nuclear weapons, maybe someone will make the right decision...
    Let's hope!
    Well so far so good, and it seems that we're much less at risk now than we were for decades back in the 20th Century. I am personally much more concerned about a natural disaster that has a globally catastrophic impact than I am about a nuclear holocaust.
    I have to say it again (and then you can give me hell for being so adamant, LOL) There are no "natural disasters", just natural occurrences.

    I wish I knew how to help people with worrying about things like earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, etc. For whatever reason, I don't worry about such things. I'm way more concerned about the harm humans can incur, both on a large scale and on a personal scale. I've been hurt far more severely and more often by people than by nature... so far anyway. And I would much rather die by lightening stick than gunshot.
    Well, unless you know people who are having actual psychological problems in terms of fearing such natural disasters (yeah, millions of people dying and extreme destruction is a disaster no matter what, doesn't matter if it's natural), then I don't think anyone needs help coping with the thought. I think it is very normal and healthy for people to have some level of fear when it comes to Mother Nature. It is, as you should appreciate, a natural occurrence! ;) Nature is our last natural predator.
    There is nothing natural about what we do to ourselves, for sure. But at least there are preventative measures we can take. It's preventable, technically. Humans can change and improve. I see hope there. Not so with stuff like super-volcanos. It's not like it keeps me up at night, but yeah, I have a healthy fear of it because I don't fucking wanna be smothered in ash until I die while the rivers turn black, thank you very much.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    What Dreams, what's with the world being on the brink of destruction? Do you know something we don't, like a giant meteor heading our way? It's definitely a changing world and anthropogenically damaged world but unless something cataclysmic like a massive meteor coming, the world will carry one and re-establish new balances. Humans on the other hand- yeah, we're doing a good job of putting ourselves on the endangered species list. If that concerns you, Bernie would have been a better pick that HRC or Trump. And even better than Bernie is Stein.

    But really, is avoiding our (and other animal's) extinction what America wants? Doesn't seem so to me. Seems to me America wants:

    -A "strong, vigorous economy" (mass consumption with little or no regard to limits to resources).

    -Lots of crap to buy to satisfy our instant gratification ADHD buying habits.

    -Wars, crashing cars at auto races, football injuries, trauma drama, and all sorts of other kinds of violence.

    -The continuation of suburbia and car culture.

    -Greasy food and sweets.

    -Mind numbing amusement (the word come from a (lack of) musing (thinking). Like amoral, only amusement.)

    These were not high on Bernie's list of priorities and certainly not on Stein's. They are major factors for the other candidates. Don't get mad at me for saying this. If you look at it, you can't deny this is true.


    I'm thinking the Yellowstone super volcano.... (no, seriously). :fearful:
    I know. That kind of shares the shit out of me. That will be the end of this civilization
    To me, the difference between, say, nuclear annihilation and Yellowstone super volcano would be like the difference between dying a slow rotting death due to exposure to chemicals and being struck and killed by lightening. In both cases I think the latter are so much more desirable. There are human disasters but there is no such thing as a natural disaster. There are just natural occurrences. If Yellowstone want to blow her top (or bottom in this case), let 'er rip. I want to be there to see it!
    I don't disagree at all. The difference is that we have zero control on Yellowstone. At least with nuclear weapons, maybe someone will make the right decision...
    Let's hope!
    Well so far so good, and it seems that we're much less at risk now than we were for decades back in the 20th Century. I am personally much more concerned about a natural disaster that has a globally catastrophic impact than I am about a nuclear holocaust.
    I have to say it again (and then you can give me hell for being so adamant, LOL) There are no "natural disasters", just natural occurrences.

    I wish I knew how to help people with worrying about things like earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, etc. For whatever reason, I don't worry about such things. I'm way more concerned about the harm humans can incur, both on a large scale and on a personal scale. I've been hurt far more severely and more often by people than by nature... so far anyway. And I would much rather die by lightening stick than gunshot.
    Well, unless you know people who are having actual psychological problems in terms of fearing such natural disasters (yeah, millions of people dying and extreme destruction is a disaster no matter what, doesn't matter if it's natural), then I don't think anyone needs help coping with the thought. I think it is very normal and healthy for people to have some level of fear when it comes to Mother Nature. It is, as you should appreciate, a natural occurrence! ;) Nature is our last natural predator.
    There is nothing natural about what we do to ourselves, for sure. But at least there are preventative measures we can take. It's preventable, technically. Humans can change and improve. I see hope there. Not so with stuff like super-volcanos. It's not like it keeps me up at night, but yeah, I have a healthy fear of it because I don't fucking wanna be smothered in ash until I die while the rivers turn black, thank you very much.
    I guess that's why I don't fear the Big Shit Mother Nature Can Throw at Us. We can't do a damn thing about it and viewed objectively, most of that Big Stuff is pretty (literally) awesome. But what we as humans do to cause havoc and misery, that we can change!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    JC29856 said:
    OK, so in the past Bernie was more in favor of voting for third candidates and later in life decided the best way to make a change was to go at it as a Democrat and now is not in favor of voting third party. First of all, this is only about this particular election. Like many here, Bernie is worried about Trump getting elected. Fair enough. I still am in favor of voting for a third party candidate but just because Bernie evolved to a different place that way doesn't, to me anyway, make him a whore.

    If someone is a vegetarian and later in life decides to be an omnivore, does that make them a whore?

    If someone hates free jazz but later in life becomes an Albert Ayler fan, does that make them a whore? Is so, I'm a whore. Whore whore whore whore!

    There, feel better? :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    brianlux said:

    JC29856 said:
    OK, so in the past Bernie was more in favor of voting for third candidates and later in life decided the best way to make a change was to go at it as a Democrat and now is not in favor of voting third party. First of all, this is only about this particular election. Like many here, Bernie is worried about Trump getting elected. Fair enough. I still am in favor of voting for a third party candidate but just because Bernie evolved to a different place that way doesn't, to me anyway, make him a whore.

    If someone is a vegetarian and later in life decides to be an omnivore, does that make them a whore?

    If someone hates free jazz but later in life becomes an Albert Ayler fan, does that make them a whore? Is so, I'm a whore. Whore whore whore whore!

    There, feel better? :lol:
    Hey Brian...what about HRC? Do you cut her the same break since she was a "Goldwater Girl" when she was 16/17?
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    JC29856 said:
    OK, so in the past Bernie was more in favor of voting for third candidates and later in life decided the best way to make a change was to go at it as a Democrat and now is not in favor of voting third party. First of all, this is only about this particular election. Like many here, Bernie is worried about Trump getting elected. Fair enough. I still am in favor of voting for a third party candidate but just because Bernie evolved to a different place that way doesn't, to me anyway, make him a whore.

    If someone is a vegetarian and later in life decides to be an omnivore, does that make them a whore?

    If someone hates free jazz but later in life becomes an Albert Ayler fan, does that make them a whore? Is so, I'm a whore. Whore whore whore whore!

    There, feel better? :lol:
    :lol:
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited September 2016
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    mrussel1 said:

    brianlux said:

    JC29856 said:
    OK, so in the past Bernie was more in favor of voting for third candidates and later in life decided the best way to make a change was to go at it as a Democrat and now is not in favor of voting third party. First of all, this is only about this particular election. Like many here, Bernie is worried about Trump getting elected. Fair enough. I still am in favor of voting for a third party candidate but just because Bernie evolved to a different place that way doesn't, to me anyway, make him a whore.

    If someone is a vegetarian and later in life decides to be an omnivore, does that make them a whore?

    If someone hates free jazz but later in life becomes an Albert Ayler fan, does that make them a whore? Is so, I'm a whore. Whore whore whore whore!

    There, feel better? :lol:
    Hey Brian...what about HRC? Do you cut her the same break since she was a "Goldwater Girl" when she was 16/17?
    Knowing she was only 16 or 17, sure. And in any case, everybody is free to change. In fact, it's often a good idea. But in this case, I don't see the change or at least not solid evidence of it.

    Oh, and the sad thing about all this is, people are getting divided over this mess, over two candidates that don't add up to beans on Sunday. To be at odds with somebody over this fiasco of an election is the shits. Bummer!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Bernie rallying his 150 and 300 Ohio supporters!
    Stronger together!

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/bernie-bust-150-turn-sanders-ohio-stop-hillary/
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    What Dreams, what's with the world being on the brink of destruction? Do you know something we don't, like a giant meteor heading our way? It's definitely a changing world and anthropogenically damaged world but unless something cataclysmic like a massive meteor coming, the world will carry one and re-establish new balances. Humans on the other hand- yeah, we're doing a good job of putting ourselves on the endangered species list. If that concerns you, Bernie would have been a better pick that HRC or Trump. And even better than Bernie is Stein.

    But really, is avoiding our (and other animal's) extinction what America wants? Doesn't seem so to me. Seems to me America wants:

    -A "strong, vigorous economy" (mass consumption with little or no regard to limits to resources).

    -Lots of crap to buy to satisfy our instant gratification ADHD buying habits.

    -Wars, crashing cars at auto races, football injuries, trauma drama, and all sorts of other kinds of violence.

    -The continuation of suburbia and car culture.

    -Greasy food and sweets.

    -Mind numbing amusement (the word come from a (lack of) musing (thinking). Like amoral, only amusement.)

    These were not high on Bernie's list of priorities and certainly not on Stein's. They are major factors for the other candidates. Don't get mad at me for saying this. If you look at it, you can't deny this is true.


    I'm thinking the Yellowstone super volcano.... (no, seriously). :fearful:
    I know. That kind of shares the shit out of me. That will be the end of this civilization
    To me, the difference between, say, nuclear annihilation and Yellowstone super volcano would be like the difference between dying a slow rotting death due to exposure to chemicals and being struck and killed by lightening. In both cases I think the latter are so much more desirable. There are human disasters but there is no such thing as a natural disaster. There are just natural occurrences. If Yellowstone want to blow her top (or bottom in this case), let 'er rip. I want to be there to see it!
    I don't disagree at all. The difference is that we have zero control on Yellowstone. At least with nuclear weapons, maybe someone will make the right decision...
    Let's hope!
    Well so far so good, and it seems that we're much less at risk now than we were for decades back in the 20th Century. I am personally much more concerned about a natural disaster that has a globally catastrophic impact than I am about a nuclear holocaust.
    I have to say it again (and then you can give me hell for being so adamant, LOL) There are no "natural disasters", just natural occurrences.

    I wish I knew how to help people with worrying about things like earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, etc. For whatever reason, I don't worry about such things. I'm way more concerned about the harm humans can incur, both on a large scale and on a personal scale. I've been hurt far more severely and more often by people than by nature... so far anyway. And I would much rather die by lightening stick than gunshot.
    Well, unless you know people who are having actual psychological problems in terms of fearing such natural disasters (yeah, millions of people dying and extreme destruction is a disaster no matter what, doesn't matter if it's natural), then I don't think anyone needs help coping with the thought. I think it is very normal and healthy for people to have some level of fear when it comes to Mother Nature. It is, as you should appreciate, a natural occurrence! ;) Nature is our last natural predator.
    There is nothing natural about what we do to ourselves, for sure. But at least there are preventative measures we can take. It's preventable, technically. Humans can change and improve. I see hope there. Not so with stuff like super-volcanos. It's not like it keeps me up at night, but yeah, I have a healthy fear of it because I don't fucking wanna be smothered in ash until I die while the rivers turn black, thank you very much.
    I guess that's why I don't fear the Big Shit Mother Nature Can Throw at Us. We can't do a damn thing about it and viewed objectively, most of that Big Stuff is pretty (literally) awesome. But what we as humans do to cause havoc and misery, that we can change!
    Interesting, because the only things I really fear are the things were we can't do anything! It's that hopelessness that I guess makes me fearful. Of course I worry about the harm humans do all the time, and feel anger and frustration about it, but since there is hope there too, it's just the same as fear for me. Yet I fear, say, the "big one" here - I fear that my building will collapse into the underground parking lot, specifically, but feel absolutely no anger or frustration about it, obviously, and those emotions are much more vexing for me.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    What Dreams, what's with the world being on the brink of destruction? Do you know something we don't, like a giant meteor heading our way? It's definitely a changing world and anthropogenically damaged world but unless something cataclysmic like a massive meteor coming, the world will carry one and re-establish new balances. Humans on the other hand- yeah, we're doing a good job of putting ourselves on the endangered species list. If that concerns you, Bernie would have been a better pick that HRC or Trump. And even better than Bernie is Stein.

    But really, is avoiding our (and other animal's) extinction what America wants? Doesn't seem so to me. Seems to me America wants:

    -A "strong, vigorous economy" (mass consumption with little or no regard to limits to resources).

    -Lots of crap to buy to satisfy our instant gratification ADHD buying habits.

    -Wars, crashing cars at auto races, football injuries, trauma drama, and all sorts of other kinds of violence.

    -The continuation of suburbia and car culture.

    -Greasy food and sweets.

    -Mind numbing amusement (the word come from a (lack of) musing (thinking). Like amoral, only amusement.)

    These were not high on Bernie's list of priorities and certainly not on Stein's. They are major factors for the other candidates. Don't get mad at me for saying this. If you look at it, you can't deny this is true.


    I'm thinking the Yellowstone super volcano.... (no, seriously). :fearful:
    I know. That kind of shares the shit out of me. That will be the end of this civilization
    To me, the difference between, say, nuclear annihilation and Yellowstone super volcano would be like the difference between dying a slow rotting death due to exposure to chemicals and being struck and killed by lightening. In both cases I think the latter are so much more desirable. There are human disasters but there is no such thing as a natural disaster. There are just natural occurrences. If Yellowstone want to blow her top (or bottom in this case), let 'er rip. I want to be there to see it!
    I don't disagree at all. The difference is that we have zero control on Yellowstone. At least with nuclear weapons, maybe someone will make the right decision...
    Let's hope!
    Well so far so good, and it seems that we're much less at risk now than we were for decades back in the 20th Century. I am personally much more concerned about a natural disaster that has a globally catastrophic impact than I am about a nuclear holocaust.
    I have to say it again (and then you can give me hell for being so adamant, LOL) There are no "natural disasters", just natural occurrences.

    I wish I knew how to help people with worrying about things like earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, etc. For whatever reason, I don't worry about such things. I'm way more concerned about the harm humans can incur, both on a large scale and on a personal scale. I've been hurt far more severely and more often by people than by nature... so far anyway. And I would much rather die by lightening stick than gunshot.
    Well, unless you know people who are having actual psychological problems in terms of fearing such natural disasters (yeah, millions of people dying and extreme destruction is a disaster no matter what, doesn't matter if it's natural), then I don't think anyone needs help coping with the thought. I think it is very normal and healthy for people to have some level of fear when it comes to Mother Nature. It is, as you should appreciate, a natural occurrence! ;) Nature is our last natural predator.
    There is nothing natural about what we do to ourselves, for sure. But at least there are preventative measures we can take. It's preventable, technically. Humans can change and improve. I see hope there. Not so with stuff like super-volcanos. It's not like it keeps me up at night, but yeah, I have a healthy fear of it because I don't fucking wanna be smothered in ash until I die while the rivers turn black, thank you very much.
    I guess that's why I don't fear the Big Shit Mother Nature Can Throw at Us. We can't do a damn thing about it and viewed objectively, most of that Big Stuff is pretty (literally) awesome. But what we as humans do to cause havoc and misery, that we can change!
    Interesting, because the only things I really fear are the things were we can't do anything! It's that hopelessness that I guess makes me fearful. Of course I worry about the harm humans do all the time, and feel anger and frustration about it, but since there is hope there too, it's just the same as fear for me. Yet I fear, say, the "big one" here - I fear that my building will collapse into the underground parking lot, specifically, but feel absolutely no anger or frustration about it, obviously, and those emotions are much more vexing for me.
    I'm with brianlux, but I totally understand where you're coming from, PJ_Soul! It took me many years to accept that things out of my control are just that. It's worth analyzing whether they can become within my control, but if logic dictates that that's not possible - it's not worth my finite energy, and certainly not worth my anxiety (if I die from being struck by a drunk driver, so be it, but I'm not going to stay inside).
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Surviving near death a number of times has probably made me a little too unafraid of both natural and unnatural disasters/occurrences. Probably best to maintain a healthy degree of caution but yes, Ben, not to the point of staying inside or hiding from life.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    brianlux said:

    Surviving near death a number of times has probably made me a little too unafraid of both natural and unnatural disasters/occurrences. Probably best to maintain a healthy degree of caution but yes, Ben, not to the point of staying inside or hiding from life.

    I'm with you, Brian :) Somewhere between Evel Knievel and Howard Hughes.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited September 2016
    tonifig8 said:
    That's for sure!

    ...Still the most popular.
    Post edited by Free on
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Just got back from Glen Hansard in Toronto...

    He still wants Bernie
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Free said:

    tonifig8 said:
    That's for sure!

    ...Still the most popular.
    Of course he's still the most popular. He's no longer in the race, so no one is slinging anything at him. Why would anyone bother?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    BS44325 said:

    Just got back from Glen Hansard in Toronto...

    He still wants Bernie

    Ha! Me too. What a great show, eh!
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    benjs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Just got back from Glen Hansard in Toronto...

    He still wants Bernie

    Ha! Me too. What a great show, eh!
    Amazing! Wish i knew you were there.