Jill Stein for President

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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    InHiding80 said:

    rustneversleeps said:

    FEEL THE STEIN!!!!!

    Feel the anyone that isn't Tumpary. I even like Johnson ffs. Besides, I don't agree on everything with Jill Stein. Apparently, she's another anti vaccine nutcase like Jenny McStupid.
    If in fact she is anti vaccine, then there is zero chanel I vote for her. I'll have to research that.
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I'm pretty sure I remember seeing that on her page, or somewhere.

    And she'll invite Edward Snowden to be on her cabinet. Wtf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Degeneratefk said:

    InHiding80 said:

    rustneversleeps said:

    FEEL THE STEIN!!!!!

    Feel the anyone that isn't Tumpary. I even like Johnson ffs. Besides, I don't agree on everything with Jill Stein. Apparently, she's another anti vaccine nutcase like Jenny McStupid.
    If in fact she is anti vaccine, then there is zero chanel I vote for her. I'll have to research that.
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/theres-probably-nothing-that-will-change-clinton-or-trump-supporters-minds/
    In a study conducted in October,1 researchers presented 507 self-identified Republicans and 986 self-identified Democrats with actual things that Trump had said — some of which were true and some of which were false. The researchers might explain, for instance, that “Trump said that the MMR vaccine causes autism,” or they would simply present the assertion that “The MMR vaccine causes autism.” Then they asked people, “How much do you believe this statement?”

    “If we told participants that it was Trump that said the misinformation, Republicans were much more likely to believe it and Democrats were much less likely to believe it,” said Briony Swire2, a Ph.D. candidate in cognitive psychology at the University of Western Australia, who conducted the study with colleagues at MIT and the University     of Bristol.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited July 2016
    InHiding80 said:

    rustneversleeps said:

    FEEL THE STEIN!!!!!

    Feel the anyone that isn't Tumpary. I even like Johnson ffs. Besides, I don't agree on everything with Jill Stein. Apparently, she's another anti vaccine nutcase like Jenny McStupid.
    Exactly why I think I've got a good chance of selling my signed Pat Paulsen book and LP record at the book fair this fall. Hell's bells I might even vote for the man and he's dead.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn69wP-jD2Y

    Post edited by brianlux on
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    her position on vaccines is founded on what everyone's position on any issue should be ... facts, critical thinking and objectivity ...

    if the majority of americans were capable of that - you wouldn't be left with Trump vs. Clinton ...
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,855
    Degeneratefk said:

    InHiding80 said:

    rustneversleeps said:

    FEEL THE STEIN!!!!!

    Feel the anyone that isn't Tumpary. I even like Johnson ffs. Besides, I don't agree on everything with Jill Stein. Apparently, she's another anti vaccine nutcase like Jenny McStupid.
    If in fact she is anti vaccine, then there is zero chanel I vote for her. I'll have to research that.
    It is not true.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited July 2016
    polaris_x said:

    her position on vaccines is founded on what everyone's position on any issue should be ... facts, critical thinking and objectivity ...

    if the majority of americans were capable of that - you wouldn't be left with Trump vs. Clinton ...

    If she were anti-vaccine, then her position is 100% NOT founded on fact, critical thinking, or objectivity. But apparently it's not true??
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    PJ_Soul said:


    polaris_x said:

    her position on vaccines is founded on what everyone's position on any issue should be ... facts, critical thinking and objectivity ...

    if the majority of americans were capable of that - you wouldn't be left with Trump vs. Clinton ...

    If she were anti-vaccine, then her position is 100% NOT founded on fact, critical thinking, or objectivity. But apparently it's not true??
    Can someone look it up and post some facts?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:


    polaris_x said:

    her position on vaccines is founded on what everyone's position on any issue should be ... facts, critical thinking and objectivity ...

    if the majority of americans were capable of that - you wouldn't be left with Trump vs. Clinton ...

    If she were anti-vaccine, then her position is 100% NOT founded on fact, critical thinking, or objectivity. But apparently it's not true??
    Can someone look it up and post some facts?
    Lol, why do you?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:


    polaris_x said:

    her position on vaccines is founded on what everyone's position on any issue should be ... facts, critical thinking and objectivity ...

    if the majority of americans were capable of that - you wouldn't be left with Trump vs. Clinton ...

    If she were anti-vaccine, then her position is 100% NOT founded on fact, critical thinking, or objectivity. But apparently it's not true??
    Can someone look it up and post some facts?
    Lol, why do you?
    You asked about its truthfulness, you do the work. Or, you really don't care.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:


    polaris_x said:

    her position on vaccines is founded on what everyone's position on any issue should be ... facts, critical thinking and objectivity ...

    if the majority of americans were capable of that - you wouldn't be left with Trump vs. Clinton ...

    If she were anti-vaccine, then her position is 100% NOT founded on fact, critical thinking, or objectivity. But apparently it's not true??
    Can someone look it up and post some facts?
    Lol, why do you?
    You asked about its truthfulness, you do the work. Or, you really don't care.
    I am just not able to right now. I thought someone might already know. I'm not about to actually request that others go and research it for me.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    she's a physician ... she understands vaccines and she also understands that medical system is corrupted by the same industrial complexes that permeate through defense and justice systems ...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Stein is anti-science, anti vaccine?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2016/07/sorry-clinton-supporters-but-jill-stein-is-not-an-anti-vaccine-presidential-candidate/

    There are a few stories going around about Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein being anti-science, and worse, anti-vaccine. This is nothing but pro-Clinton fear mongering at best.

    While I have written about the Green Party’s own trouble with science, mostly dealing with GMO labeling and homeopathy, the idea that Jill Stein, a medical doctor is anti-vaccine is ridiculous if you take more than ten seconds to read her own statement on the issue.

    I don’t know if we have an “official” stance, but I can tell you my personal stance at this point. According to the most recent review of vaccination policies across the globe, mandatory vaccination that doesn’t allow for medical exemptions is practically unheard of. In most countries, people trust their regulatory agencies and have very high rates of vaccination through voluntary programs. In the US, however, regulatory agencies are routinely packed with corporate lobbyists and CEOs. So the foxes are guarding the chicken coop as usual in the US. So who wouldn’t be skeptical? I think dropping vaccinations rates that can and must be fixed in order to get at the vaccination issue: the widespread distrust of the medical-indsutrial (sic) complex.

    Vaccines in general have made a huge contribution to public health. Reducing or eliminating devastating diseases like small pox and polio. In Canada, where I happen to have some numbers, hundreds of annual death from measles and whooping cough were eliminated after vaccines were introduced. Still, vaccines should be treated like any medical procedure–each one needs to be tested and regulated by parties that do not have a financial interest in them. In an age when industry lobbyists and CEOs are routinely appointed to key regulatory positions through the notorious revolving door, its no wonder many Americans don’t trust the FDA to be an unbiased source of sound advice.

    - See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2016/07/sorry-clinton-supporters-but-jill-stein-is-not-an-anti-vaccine-presidential-candidate/#sthash.aeEKhTR7.dpuf
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Democratic fear mongering. That's funny.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Degeneratefk said:

    Democratic fear mongering. That's funny.

    Not my words but certainly an attempt to discredit a candidate over a minor issue with misinformation. Certainly disingenuous.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Watch Jill livestream today, and her speech rocked!!
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Young 'uns should familiarize themselves with these two elections, and then realize Trump would be much, much worse than the candidate that won either of them:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot_presidential_campaign,_1992

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader_presidential_campaign,_2000
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    slightofjeff said:

    Young 'uns should familiarize themselves with these two elections, and then realize Trump would be much, much worse than the candidate that won either of them:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot_presidential_campaign,_1992

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader_presidential_campaign,_2000

    Trump would certainly be worse than Perot or Nader, by a long shot. Trump would be slightly worse than HRC. In fact, Trump would be worse than me as president and I would totally suck at being president.

    Stein on the other hand... :plus_one:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    How could Trump be worse than you as president?
    Trump never changes his mind on candidates.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    How could Trump be worse than you as president?
    Trump never changes his mind on candidates.

    Irrelevant. I haven't changed my mind so much as the cards on the table changed. Bernie is out of it, Stein is in. Make sense, right?

    Also, re your comment on Ayn Rand (can't find it again)- not a fan. She had strong biases against Native Americans. Nothing missing in my education there.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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