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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    All fasist-rasist-nazi parties support Brexit
    Thats tell u exactly what was the right call to do when u go to vote

    And

    Nigel Farage (leader if political party who support Brexit )at tv interview a couple of hours after result
    They ask him...
    Q :Now uk leaves the 350 millions per week we give to.europe will go to health system.right??..
    ANSWER..:no i cant quarantee that....
    Q:But that was the promise.
    A:..No.. it was mistake
    Q..but that was the propaganda to leave europe..
    again answer..no was mistake...
    And u say that after 17 millions people vote to leave????
    No answer....

    I rest my case..another exable of people go to vote and believe in magicians and miracles and think will be saved and will be rich or have better life.
    Yeah right..


    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    my2hands said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    igotid88 said:

    Him resigining was predicted if the vote was to leave

    Honestly, this story has barely been on the radar for me until 2 days ago. I don't live under a rock, so I am pretty sure there has just been very little news coverage about it here until a day or two before the vote happened, so while i know some about the wider implications to Britain and the EU (and Canada), i know basically nothing about the internal politics surrounding the whole thing. I only learned yesterday that Cameron lead the charge to stay in fact. I can only assume that the Canadian media decided that there wasn't a big story to report until an decision was made, I don't know.
    I'm no expert but we already have a trade agreement with the EU, so getting a trade agreement with the U.K. should happen, but who cares if we get a free trade agreement with the U.K., not like these trade agreements have benefited the little guy ... To me democracy won the day, the world needs less politicians, less governmemrnt and less bureacrats...
    I am not in favour of these trade agreements. None of them seem to benefit Canada.
    International trade agreements are not designed or intended to benefit the working class... they are 100% purely for the benefit of the ruling elite business class

    That's not conspiracy, that's not a stretch, that's just obvious
    Jason P said:

    Are they implying that they voted to leave? These are not bright people if so.

    Shawshank said:

    Wait...so now some of you are concerned about big banks and corporations taking a hit because of this? Am I understanding that correctly? That's rich...especially for this board.

    So they took a gamble on the people wanting/accepting globalization and they lost. Oh well. It's a stupid idea that was born out of a utopian mindset not based in reality. It's not how humans work. That's why you may care about your neighbors and will go out of your way to help them whenever the need arises...and even put other people before yourself...but you don't want them just walking into your house at night unannounced and plop down on your couch.

    Individual families are a microcosm of the world as a whole. As a species we are naturally separated into smaller units and always have been. This idea that we will one day live in this giant, free roaming, borderless world is not even in the realm of possibility. The ones that really push for that are those wanting power and money...i.e. the same ones losing billions right now. Wait until other countries follow Britain's lead. It's only a matter of time.

    Very well said ... I do not know if it's been mentioned here or not, but was wondering if the elite were so opposed to the Brexit because they realize that Britain will be just fine and that more people will wake up and realize globalization is complete bullshit.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    dimitrispearljam said:

    Spags said:

    Division is never the right course.

    Thats exactly what referendum always do!!
    Put hate and blame eachother in the mind of people
    Referendum is a true form of democracy ... Elected dictators who we change every few years is not democracy, the people spoke ... This is what they want.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    dimitrispearljam said:

    All fasist-rasist-nazi parties support Brexit
    Thats tell u exactly what was the right call to do when u go to vote

    And

    Nigel Farage (leader if political party who support Brexit )at tv interview a couple of hours after result
    They ask him...
    Q :Now uk leaves the 350 millions per week we give to.europe will go to health system.right??..
    ANSWER..:no i cant quarantee that....
    Q:But that was the promise.
    A:..No.. it was mistake
    Q..but that was the propaganda to leave europe..
    again answer..no was mistake...
    And u say that after 17 millions people vote to leave????
    No answer....

    I rest my case..another exable of people go to vote and believe in magicians and miracles and think will be saved and will be rich or have better life.
    Yeah right..


    But that 350 million stays in Britain ... It gives the British 350 more dollars a week and likely some of that will make its way to health care.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    lukin2006 said:

    dimitrispearljam said:

    Spags said:

    Division is never the right course.

    Thats exactly what referendum always do!!
    Put hate and blame eachother in the mind of people
    Referendum is a true form of democracy ... Elected dictators who we change every few years is not democracy, the people spoke ... This is what they want.
    Exactly.
    It's pretty simple do you want to separate yes or no?
    The majority said yes. What is so hard to comprehend.?

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    ^^^dimi, what did the EU do for Greece ... Forced you to take on more debt, am I correct? Or you would have been kicked out...correct? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Sorry that's all government and bureaucrats want to do ... In debt their citizens.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited June 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    dimitrispearljam said:

    Spags said:

    Division is never the right course.

    Thats exactly what referendum always do!!
    Put hate and blame eachother in the mind of people
    Referendum is a true form of democracy ... Elected dictators who we change every few years is not democracy, the people spoke ... This is what they want.
    Exactly.
    It's pretty simple do you want to separate yes or no?
    The majority said yes. What is so hard to comprehend.?

    Very simple question, I can now guarantee here in CANADA we will not get a referendum on electoral reform...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    edited June 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    dimitrispearljam said:

    All fasist-rasist-nazi parties support Brexit
    Thats tell u exactly what was the right call to do when u go to vote

    And

    Nigel Farage (leader if political party who support Brexit )at tv interview a couple of hours after result
    They ask him...
    Q :Now uk leaves the 350 millions per week we give to.europe will go to health system.right??..
    ANSWER..:no i cant quarantee that....
    Q:But that was the promise.
    A:..No.. it was mistake
    Q..but that was the propaganda to leave europe..
    again answer..no was mistake...
    And u say that after 17 millions people vote to leave????
    No answer....

    I rest my case..another exable of people go to vote and believe in magicians and miracles and think will be saved and will be rich or have better life.
    Yeah right..


    But that 350 million stays in Britain ... It gives the British 350 more dollars a week and likely some of that will make its way to health care.
    Lol..do u think they give this money with out get anything in return??they get trades of fruits..or farm.product..oil..milk.from the south of europe.in low prices..no taxis.they have tons of benefits..all european countries gived money
    For exable a euripean citizen from spain travel.in greece..and has an accident..all is covered..is like has incurance in greece cos he is european..he can find a job here like he is greek wuth same benefits and so on...
    Post edited by dimitrispearljam on
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    edited June 2016
    Guys things are simple
    Half uk will blame the other half..its how it goes
    And somwthing else
    Uk is 4 countries together
    England-scotland-wales-north ireland
    So the other 3 countries..scitland -wales-n.ireland..voter to stay in europe!!!
    How about that??they want europe..buy english are more abd vote leave...now scotland will have a vote to be free from uk!!
    So scotland-wales-n.ireland wants to be in europe..lets see how it goes
    Post edited by dimitrispearljam on
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    dimitrispearljam said:

    Guys things are simple
    Half uk will blame the other half..its how it goes
    And somwthing else
    Uk is 4 countries together
    England-scotland-wales-north ireland
    So the other 3 countries..scitland -wales-n.ireland..voter to stay in europe!!!
    How about that??they want europe..buy english are more abd vote leave...now scotland will have a vote to be free from uk!!
    So scotland-wales-n.ireland wants to be in europe..lets see how it goes

    England did not vote to leave Europe ... it appears that 52 % of the people were wise and decided they had enough of the bureaucracy of the EU and decided to take their country back ... and i Say good for them for raising a middle finger at the politicians and their corporate and elite masters, well done.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    Wales wanted out...it's them and England that brought this on the UK...not the cities of course. Just saying.
    Nature drunk and High
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Rex Murphy: Results of the Brexit referendum is a rebuke to Western elites

    http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/rex-murphy-results-of-the-brexit-referendum-is-a-rebuke-to-western-elites
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    Rex Murphy: Results of the Brexit referendum is a rebuke to Western elites

    http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/rex-murphy-results-of-the-brexit-referendum-is-a-rebuke-to-western-elites

    I am so glad that he is still around. Rex is an outstanding columnist.
    This article is heavy and will take awhile for a few to soak it in.
    Especially the Trump parts.

    Barack Obama shocked a great slice of the American public with his executive order (since suspended by the Supreme Court) — a pure fiat from the Oval Office — to exempt five million illegal aliens, what Time magazine described as “the largest single immigration action in modern American history.” He did this with a wave of his imperious pen. It was a decree less fit for a president than an emperor, a clear flight of that “Caesarism” which all good Obamaphiles prefer to see only in demon Trump.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    ^^^people are getting tired of the elites ... unfortunately not fast enough ... and Trump is an elitist as well ... in Canada it appears that elitist in politics and our over bloated bureaucracy is doing quite well, especially in Onterrible.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited June 2016
    dimitrispearljam said:

    Guys things are simple
    Half uk will blame the other half..its how it goes
    And somwthing else
    Uk is 4 countries together
    England-scotland-wales-north ireland
    So the other 3 countries..scitland -wales-n.ireland..voter to stay in europe!!!
    How about that??they want europe..buy english are more abd vote leave...now scotland will have a vote to be free from uk!!
    So scotland-wales-n.ireland wants to be in europe..lets see how it goes

    the 3 smaller economies voted to stay and the large economy decided to leave... I think it is really as simple as that... the way a lot of people see it, in general terms, Northern Europe is subsidizing southern Europe, while losing jobs to eastern European immigrants... right or wrong that is the perception and may very well be the reality... so bam, the brits vote to get out and call their own shots... I'm not really shocked

    I think we may see a move towards this pattern... it will definitely gain traction in some political parties in the stronger economic countries of western & northern europe
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    my2hands said:

    dimitrispearljam said:

    Guys things are simple
    Half uk will blame the other half..its how it goes
    And somwthing else
    Uk is 4 countries together
    England-scotland-wales-north ireland
    So the other 3 countries..scitland -wales-n.ireland..voter to stay in europe!!!
    How about that??they want europe..buy english are more abd vote leave...now scotland will have a vote to be free from uk!!
    So scotland-wales-n.ireland wants to be in europe..lets see how it goes

    the 3 smaller economies voted to stay and the large economy decided to leave... I think it is really as simple as that... the way a lot of people see it, in general terms, Northern Europe is subsidizing southern Europe, while losing jobs to eastern European immigrants... right or wrong that is the perception and may very well be the reality... so bam, the brits vote to get out and call their own shots... I'm not really shocked

    I think we may see a move towards this pattern... it will definitely gain traction in some political parties in the stronger economic countries of western & northern europe
    Young people
    The ones need jobs want to stay in europe
    Old people voted to.stay out..
    Fear won..propaganda won....not eastern european people that work.in uk was the problem
    Peoplr think now....they will have jobs..and money and no immigrants
    Well..ill tell u this..ive been to uk like 5-6 times and 70% foreigners are from pakistan and india at uk and they work everywhere ..running almost all small business..from fast foods...restautant..7/11..coffee shops..at transfer of city.metro-bus...u wonder whete is the people from england working??
    For sure wasnt polland or from ukraine people working at uk
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    Approx. 70% of those under-25s who actually voted, voted for Remain. Unfortunately, 55% of 18-24 year olds (inc. 75% of 18 year olds) didn't vote at all. So they only have themselves to blame if their voice hasn't been heard.
    Nature drunk and High
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    Just curious why we think the young are so smart? Big deal that the young voted to stay. Does that make it the better decision for some reason? I'm in my 30's by the way so not saying I'm old.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    I think everyone thought there would be pain economically after a Brexit, but that doesn't mean it was the wrong decision. We make right decisions all the time that go against our short term interest but are correct for the long run. For example, a married couple could stay together with the kids when they no longer like each other, but choose to divorce even though those first few months/years after the divorce may be tougher than the routine but unsatisfying life prior to divorce.

    The world is moving in a direction where everyone will be the same (one world government, everyone using the same technology, everyone reading the same news, etc...). The UK at least decided to tap the breaks on that.

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