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igotid88 · June 2016

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:
I think Shaq is overrated. Call me a homer. But I'll put Ewing over him.
Patrick Ewing was the absolute best at one thing - traveling EVERY time he got the ball and NEVER getting called for it. Now everyone takes 3 steps and switches their pivot foot and don't get called for it. Ewing changed the rules of the game; albeit for worse. I guess you could say he was a pioneer of sorts.
Jordan as well. He got away with a lot.
Lol. Ewing shouldn't have even been on the dream team. He was so bad.

What do you mean so bad? If Ewing got to play with Kobe and Wade during their primes. His numbers might be even better. Especially assists

HesCalledDyer · June 2016

Wobbie said:
I agree with Tony Kornheiser that Draymond got suspended so the NBA and TV could get a seven game series. I was rooting for Cleveland but I think the Finals deserve an *.

Yep!

cutz · June 2016

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:
I agree with Tony Kornheiser that Draymond got suspended so the NBA and TV could get a seven game series. I was rooting for Cleveland but I think the Finals deserve an *.
Yep!

He's a dirty player and no * for the Finals. Like others have noted, he should've been suspended in the OKC series. So, i guess a * should be given to the Warriors for beating OKC?> Ridiculous.

He did it again in game 7 : http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/draymond-green-kicked-kyrie-irving-in-final-moments-of-game-7-062116

mrussel1 · June 2016

cutz said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:
I agree with Tony Kornheiser that Draymond got suspended so the NBA and TV could get a seven game series. I was rooting for Cleveland but I think the Finals deserve an *.
Yep!
He's a dirty player and no * for the Finals. Like others have noted, he should've been suspended in the OKC series. So, i guess a * should be given to the Warriors for beating OKC?> Ridiculous.

He did it again in game 7 : http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/draymond-green-kicked-kyrie-irving-in-final-moments-of-game-7-062116

No shit. Another unnatural movement.

HesCalledDyer · June 2016

He should've been suspended in the Houston series. To wait until Game 5 of the Finals to suspend him without warrant, and then hide behind the skirt of "pattern of behavior" is a money grab. Why wasn't James suspended for stepping over him? At the very least, why wasn't James given a technical?

Ledbetterman10 · June 2016

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:
I think Shaq is overrated. Call me a homer. But I'll put Ewing over him.
Patrick Ewing was the absolute best at one thing - traveling EVERY time he got the ball and NEVER getting called for it. Now everyone takes 3 steps and switches their pivot foot and don't get called for it. Ewing changed the rules of the game; albeit for worse. I guess you could say he was a pioneer of sorts.
Jordan as well. He got away with a lot.
Lol. Ewing shouldn't have even been on the dream team. He was so bad.
What do you mean so bad? If Ewing got to play with Kobe and Wade during their primes. His numbers might be even better. Especially assists

Ewing was good but nowhere near the same league as Shaq or Olajuwon. Or even David Robinson for that matter.

Ledbetterman10 · June 2016

HesCalledDyer said:
He should've been suspended in the Houston series. To wait until Game 5 of the Finals to suspend him without warrant, and then hide behind the skirt of "pattern of behavior" is a money grab. Why wasn't James suspended for stepping over him? At the very least, why wasn't James given a technical?

Maybe I can see a technical for James stepping over him. But come on, if someone steps over you like a dick, get up and push him (or punch him) like a man. Don't fucking slap him in the dick. Draymond totally deserved his suspension. Shots to the privates, spitting, biting, or eye-gouging is a lowest form of "dirty play" in sports.

tempo_n_groove · June 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:
I think Shaq is overrated. Call me a homer. But I'll put Ewing over him.
Patrick Ewing was the absolute best at one thing - traveling EVERY time he got the ball and NEVER getting called for it. Now everyone takes 3 steps and switches their pivot foot and don't get called for it. Ewing changed the rules of the game; albeit for worse. I guess you could say he was a pioneer of sorts.
Jordan as well. He got away with a lot.
Lol. Ewing shouldn't have even been on the dream team. He was so bad.
What do you mean so bad? If Ewing got to play with Kobe and Wade during their primes. His numbers might be even better. Especially assists
Ewing was good but nowhere near the same league as Shaq or Olajuwon. Or even David Robinson for that matter.

Man Ewing carried that team forever. His second best player on his team was John Starks. Need I say more?

Ledbetterman10 · June 2016

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:
I think Shaq is overrated. Call me a homer. But I'll put Ewing over him.
Patrick Ewing was the absolute best at one thing - traveling EVERY time he got the ball and NEVER getting called for it. Now everyone takes 3 steps and switches their pivot foot and don't get called for it. Ewing changed the rules of the game; albeit for worse. I guess you could say he was a pioneer of sorts.
Jordan as well. He got away with a lot.
Lol. Ewing shouldn't have even been on the dream team. He was so bad.
What do you mean so bad? If Ewing got to play with Kobe and Wade during their primes. His numbers might be even better. Especially assists
Ewing was good but nowhere near the same league as Shaq or Olajuwon. Or even David Robinson for that matter.
Man Ewing carried that team forever. His second best player on his team was John Starks. Need I say more?

Okay....so that's why I said he was good.

HesCalledDyer · June 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:
He should've been suspended in the Houston series. To wait until Game 5 of the Finals to suspend him without warrant, and then hide behind the skirt of "pattern of behavior" is a money grab. Why wasn't James suspended for stepping over him? At the very least, why wasn't James given a technical?
Maybe I can see a technical for James stepping over him. But come on, if someone steps over you like a dick, get up and push him (or punch him) like a man. Don't fucking slap him in the dick. Draymond totally deserved his suspension. Shots to the privates, spitting, biting, or eye-gouging is a lowest form of "dirty play" in sports.

I don't disagree with ya. My thing is he was doing this all throughout the playoffs. Why wait until the Cavs are down 3-1 with Game 5 at Oracle to suspend him?

igotid88 · June 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:
I think Shaq is overrated. Call me a homer. But I'll put Ewing over him.
Patrick Ewing was the absolute best at one thing - traveling EVERY time he got the ball and NEVER getting called for it. Now everyone takes 3 steps and switches their pivot foot and don't get called for it. Ewing changed the rules of the game; albeit for worse. I guess you could say he was a pioneer of sorts.
Jordan as well. He got away with a lot.
Lol. Ewing shouldn't have even been on the dream team. He was so bad.
What do you mean so bad? If Ewing got to play with Kobe and Wade during their primes. His numbers might be even better. Especially assists
Ewing was good but nowhere near the same league as Shaq or Olajuwon. Or even David Robinson for that matter.

I give Olajuwon. But Shaq was basically a dunker who was 100lbs heavier than all other centers

Ledbetterman10 · June 2016

HesCalledDyer said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:
He should've been suspended in the Houston series. To wait until Game 5 of the Finals to suspend him without warrant, and then hide behind the skirt of "pattern of behavior" is a money grab. Why wasn't James suspended for stepping over him? At the very least, why wasn't James given a technical?
Maybe I can see a technical for James stepping over him. But come on, if someone steps over you like a dick, get up and push him (or punch him) like a man. Don't fucking slap him in the dick. Draymond totally deserved his suspension. Shots to the privates, spitting, biting, or eye-gouging is a lowest form of "dirty play" in sports.
I don't disagree with ya. My thing is he was doing this all throughout the playoffs. Why wait until the Cavs are down 3-1 with Game 5 at Oracle to suspend him?

It was a culmination of his four flagrant fouls. You get one point for a flagrant 1 and two points for a flagrant 2. Four points mean a one-game suspension. So it wasn't a situation of the NBA saying "Let's get him NOW because the series is 3-1." Here's an explanation from NBA.com:

"Under league rules, any player who accumulates four flagrant foul points over the course of the playoffs will be automatically suspended for one game, and every additional flagrant foul will result in either a one-game suspension (for a Flagrant Foul 1) or a two-game suspension (for a Flagrant Foul 2).

"The cumulative points system is designed to deter flagrant fouls in our game" said Kiki VanDeWeghe, Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations. "While Draymond Green's actions in Game 4 do not merit a suspension as a standalone act, the number of flagrant points he has earned triggers a suspension for Game 5.""

The entire article: http://www.nba.com/2016/news/06/12/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-nba-finals-game-5-suspension/

Lebron was actually assessed a technical after the game. Seems meaningless but it's actually the fourth time in the past two playoffs that that's happened. I guess because technical can add up to a suspension as well.

igotid88 · June 2016

But if they had called the flagrant on Green during the game. It might've changed the outcome. I think the Cavs were down 8? If he hit both free throws. That's 6. Then the Cavs get the ball back.

Degeneratefk · June 2016

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:
I think Shaq is overrated. Call me a homer. But I'll put Ewing over him.
Patrick Ewing was the absolute best at one thing - traveling EVERY time he got the ball and NEVER getting called for it. Now everyone takes 3 steps and switches their pivot foot and don't get called for it. Ewing changed the rules of the game; albeit for worse. I guess you could say he was a pioneer of sorts.
Jordan as well. He got away with a lot.
Lol. Ewing shouldn't have even been on the dream team. He was so bad.
What do you mean so bad? If Ewing got to play with Kobe and Wade during their primes. His numbers might be even better. Especially assists

I mean he was over rated. He could never carry a team. He wasn't nearly as good as the other top centers of the 90s. He played

HesCalledDyer · June 2016

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:
I think Shaq is overrated. Call me a homer. But I'll put Ewing over him.
Patrick Ewing was the absolute best at one thing - traveling EVERY time he got the ball and NEVER getting called for it. Now everyone takes 3 steps and switches their pivot foot and don't get called for it. Ewing changed the rules of the game; albeit for worse. I guess you could say he was a pioneer of sorts.
Jordan as well. He got away with a lot.
Lol. Ewing shouldn't have even been on the dream team. He was so bad.
What do you mean so bad? If Ewing got to play with Kobe and Wade during their primes. His numbers might be even better. Especially assists
Ewing was good but nowhere near the same league as Shaq or Olajuwon. Or even David Robinson for that matter.
Man Ewing carried that team forever. His second best player on his team was John Starks. Need I say more?

Mark Jackson, Anthony Mason, Allan Houston, Larry Johnson.

Ledbetterman10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:
He should've been suspended in the Houston series. To wait until Game 5 of the Finals to suspend him without warrant, and then hide behind the skirt of "pattern of behavior" is a money grab. Why wasn't James suspended for stepping over him? At the very least, why wasn't James given a technical?
Maybe I can see a technical for James stepping over him. But come on, if someone steps over you like a dick, get up and push him (or punch him) like a man. Don't fucking slap him in the dick. Draymond totally deserved his suspension. Shots to the privates, spitting, biting, or eye-gouging is a lowest form of "dirty play" in sports.
I don't disagree with ya. My thing is he was doing this all throughout the playoffs. Why wait until the Cavs are down 3-1 with Game 5 at Oracle to suspend him?
It was a culmination of his four flagrant fouls. You get one point for a flagrant 1 and two points for a flagrant 2. Four points mean a one-game suspension. So it wasn't a situation of the NBA saying "Let's get him NOW because the series is 3-1." Here's an explanation from NBA.com:

"Under league rules, any player who accumulates four flagrant foul points over the course of the playoffs will be automatically suspended for one game, and every additional flagrant foul will result in either a one-game suspension (for a Flagrant Foul 1) or a two-game suspension (for a Flagrant Foul 2).

"The cumulative points system is designed to deter flagrant fouls in our game" said Kiki VanDeWeghe, Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations. "While Draymond Green's actions in Game 4 do not merit a suspension as a standalone act, the number of flagrant points he has earned triggers a suspension for Game 5.""

The entire article: http://www.nba.com/2016/news/06/12/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-nba-finals-game-5-suspension/

Lebron was actually assessed a technical after the game. Seems meaningless but it's actually the fourth time in the past two playoffs that that's happened. I guess because technical can add up to a suspension as well.

And it's still a judgment call over what a flagrant foul is. Again, why wait until AFTER the game to assess the flagrant (a very poor judgment in my opinion) and suspend him?

Since we're speaking of track records and culminations, the NBA seems to annually be under fire for fixing games. It has already been proven before that league officials have made intentional calls to affect the outcome of games. If not for this, I wouldn't be so skeptical.

Look, I'm not saying Lebron & the Cavs wouldn't have done it anyway. And Golden State had plenty of opportunities to put game 7 away and they didn't. But the game 5 decision reeks of foul play.

seanwon · June 2016

HesCalledDyer said:

I don't disagree with ya. My thing is he was doing this all throughout the playoffs. Why wait until the Cavs are down 3-1 with Game 5 at Oracle to suspend him?

Because it was game 4 that he slapped Lebron in the balls? They suspended him for the next game. What else were they supposed to do, suspend him for game 6 or 7?

Jason P · June 2016

The Knicks haven't been worth a poop since Ewing left them.

igotid88 · June 2016

All I can say is if Curry or Klay was attempting those 3 pt shots Starks was. Ewing would have a championship

g under p · June 2016

This is too funny....

http://youtu.be/UEtBwuEEfDs

Is it true that for the parade JR is shirtless and is in his game shorts?

Peace

Jason P · June 2016

I think the entire state of Ohio showed up for todays parade ...

cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/06/cavs_nba_championship_parade_2.html

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