Should the US institute a ban on assault weapons.

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    Yes
    mcgruff10 said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Free said:

    There are 2 uses for assault weapons.

    1. Target practice
    2. To kill

    If you're not going to the shooting range why would one own an assault weapon?

    You just contradicted your own vote...target practice is enough of a reason


    And how many people with "collections" actually go to target practice?
    I do Twice a month. The 200 yard range is fun. I also shoot skeet a few times a year and go shoot my handgun every few months.
    Are they assault weapons?

    And do you fear the govt is "coming to take your guns?"
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    edited June 2016
    Yes
    link to story in Tuesday's Philadelphia Inquirer - 7 fucking minutes to by an AR-15. disgusting

    http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/helen_ubinas/20160614_Ubinas__I_bought_an_AR-15_semi-automatic_rifle_in_Philly_in_7_minutes.html
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    No
    Free said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Free said:

    There are 2 uses for assault weapons.

    1. Target practice
    2. To kill

    If you're not going to the shooting range why would one own an assault weapon?

    You just contradicted your own vote...target practice is enough of a reason


    And how many people with "collections" actually go to target practice?
    I do Twice a month. The 200 yard range is fun. I also shoot skeet a few times a year and go shoot my handgun every few months.
    Are they assault weapons?

    And do you fear the govt is "coming to take your guns?"
    Yes one rifle is an "assault weapon" and the majority of my other rifles were issued during ww2. I then have a couple .22 lr semi autos and bolt action 30.06 that i use for hunting.

    I do not fear the govt is coming to take my guns.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    other
    jeffbr said:

    rgambs said:

    We need to focus more on the specific appointments and features than the specific weapons that package them.

    Essentially that would be a ban on assault rifles, but it would avoid the trifling arguments of the hobbyists.

    I don't consider myself a hobbyist at this point. I don't have any desire to purchase a high capacity, large caliber, semi-auto sporting rifle at this point in my life. But the laws and regulations need to be written clearly because we've all seen gov't create unintended consequences for new initiatives. I just want to make sure that we aren't legislating against the look of a firearm, while allowing something more dangerous and less scary looking past, and vice versa. A .22 caliber scary looking semi auto doesn't concern me, but would that be covered in the assault weapons ban? A normal looking Ruger 10/22 .22 caliber rifle would clearly not be prohibited. What happens when someone changes out the stock/grip/magazine? Essentially the same rifle, same firing mechanism, same caliber, but now is scary looking. Is it now an assault weapon?
    I'm asking these questions not as a nitpicking hobbyist, but to make sure that when people are making proposals on prohibitions, we are crystal clear what is allowed and what is not. That is the only way we'll be able to enforce it.

    Legal under this ban?
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    Same gun. Still legal under the ban?
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    I like rgambs solution. Quit talking about the gun itself (AR-15 or whatever gun you don't like), and talk about those aspects or features that convert it from ordinary sporting use.
    Research our previous "assault" ban and all those things you'd like to have done were.
    California also had an extensive ban.
    Basically if it looked cool it got banned.
    I think the 22 was the only thing spared in that bill.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Yes
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Force Of Nature said:

    What is stopping a ban on guns in the US? Or at least stricter laws?

    If the president of the us wanted more laws, couldn't he just enforce them? Is it a public vote and less than 50% want change?
    (Yes I'm ignorant to how US laws come into practice)

    There will never be a ban on guns in the U.S.

    Basically laws have to get through congress before going to the president.

    He could, I think, do an executive order, but all hell would break loose.
    Plus you have that thing called the 2nd amendment
    an outdated poorly written article needs to rewritten, or even repealed.
    Outdated is a good term for it.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Yes
    absolutely
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Yes
    Absofuckinlutely
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Yes
    Absofukinlutelyloo

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Free said:

    There are 2 uses for assault weapons.

    1. Target practice
    2. To kill

    If you're not going to the shooting range why would one own an assault weapon?

    You just contradicted your own vote...target practice is enough of a reason


    And how many people with "collections" actually go to target practice?
    I would think almost everyone. I have a gun collection and have only ever used any of them for target practice/sport. Same with everyone I know who owns a gun, And with the exception of those in military or law enforcement, target practice is just for fun and not any sort of tactical training. I don't know anyone with a gun collection who doesn't go out and shoot them every once in a while, except maybe those who inherited a couple 100 year old family relics and wouldn't even know how to shoot them, but that's hardly a gun collection in my opinion.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Free said:

    There are 2 uses for assault weapons.

    1. Target practice
    2. To kill

    If you're not going to the shooting range why would one own an assault weapon?

    Small penis along with insecurities. Oh oh and being selfish as fk.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    mcgruff10 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Force Of Nature said:

    What is stopping a ban on guns in the US? Or at least stricter laws?

    If the president of the us wanted more laws, couldn't he just enforce them? Is it a public vote and less than 50% want change?
    (Yes I'm ignorant to how US laws come into practice)

    There will never be a ban on guns in the U.S.

    Basically laws have to get through congress before going to the president.

    He could, I think, do an executive order, but all hell would break loose.
    Plus you have that thing called the 2nd amendment
    It's an Amendment.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    mace1229 said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Free said:

    There are 2 uses for assault weapons.

    1. Target practice
    2. To kill

    If you're not going to the shooting range why would one own an assault weapon?

    You just contradicted your own vote...target practice is enough of a reason


    And how many people with "collections" actually go to target practice?
    I would think almost everyone. I have a gun collection and have only ever used any of them for target practice/sport. Same with everyone I know who owns a gun, And with the exception of those in military or law enforcement, target practice is just for fun and not any sort of tactical training. I don't know anyone with a gun collection who doesn't go out and shoot them every once in a while, except maybe those who inherited a couple 100 year old family relics and wouldn't even know how to shoot them, but that's hardly a gun collection in my opinion.
    So your little thrill of a Hobby kills thousands. But fk it you have rights. Fuck everyone else.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Yes
    I also have the right not to be killed by your guns. The unalienable right to life. That trumps your second amendment.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    No
    Degeneratefk said:

    I also have the right not to be killed by your guns. The unalienable right to life. That trumps your second amendment.

    nothing trumps our 2nd amendment stop being paranoid.

    Godfather.

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    They are called assault weapons, not defend weapons. Anyone who wants one should go through the same level of scrutiny that a person goes through to obtain an automatic gun.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    No
    disagree, I agree there should be some laws and back ground checks but have you done the home work to get a fully automatic gun ??? pretty spendy.

    Godfather.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    Yes
    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    I also have the right not to be killed by your guns. The unalienable right to life. That trumps your second amendment.

    nothing trumps our 2nd amendment stop being paranoid.

    Godfather.

    Lol you called this poster paranoid ga ha that's the funniest thing you've posted , aren't you afraid of all the brown folks coming over the border to ruin your way of life and the government coming to your house to take your guns ...
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    Godfather. said:

    disagree, I agree there should be some laws and back ground checks but have you done the home work to get a fully automatic gun ??? pretty spendy.

    Godfather.

    And how many mass shootings have occurred due to an automatic gun?????????

    ????????

    ????????????
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Yes
    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    I also have the right not to be killed by your guns. The unalienable right to life. That trumps your second amendment.

    nothing trumps our 2nd amendment stop being paranoid.

    Godfather.

    Actually, my right to not die does trump your second amendment. There are many exceptions that Trump many amendments.
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    No
    Jason P said:

    Godfather. said:

    disagree, I agree there should be some laws and back ground checks but have you done the home work to get a fully automatic gun ??? pretty spendy.

    Godfather.

    And how many mass shootings have occurred due to an automatic gun?????????

    ????????

    ????????????
    automatic weapons are already illegal to own unless you do a mountain of paper work and a huge fee not to mention an additional back ground check but that aside mass killing don't happen due to automatic weapons they occur do to people and if a nut case wants to kill he/she will find a way, a little history should tell you that....on top of all that I think this auto gun show is a bunch of bullshit used as a distraction by the government and the media.

    Godfather.

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