Polygamy and Sister Wives ?
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Yeah!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
This is actually a good perspective.
I mean... why be a suicide bomber to get yourself 1000 virgins when you can be a polygamist and do it without maiming anyone?
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HAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHA OHHHHHHSNAP !!! now that was funny !Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
This is actually a good perspective.
I mean... why be a suicide bomber to get yourself 1000 virgins when you can be a polygamist and do it without maiming anyone?
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I actually watched a season or two of the show (in the train wreck sense), and it doesn't really work for them at all. They were literally driven out of them home by state law, had to uproot their children, the wives are constantly have issues with jealousy and all this shit.... While the wive try to insist that it works great for them, at least one of them are always on the brink of a mental breakdown at any given time. They struggle with profound money problems because they have to maintain 4 separate households (which the husband rotates through on a schedule). Their kids struggle with the whole thing pretty continuously. It's completely ridiculous, and I'm surprised anyone can watch the show and walk away saying that hey, this seems to work for this family so it can't be all that bad. To me, it looks like a little slice of hell for the most part.amethgr8 said:I have watched less then one episode because I can't watch anymore. It frustrates me to see women live like that, my interpretation, they are not seeing their true potential. However in their view, they all fully believe they are carrying out purpose and are okay with it. Bully for them, it's not for me.
In VERY general terms our western civilized brains really function better doing one thing at a a time. Relationships are different they are intimate. I estimate that even tho there is a fair divorce rate, as realationships deepen either mono or poly, it's easier on the brain to only have to process one partners actions, reactions, family issues, work schedule, etc. and vice verse. While there maybe poly relations out there, working, I believe they are the exception to the long term rule. Others just fooling around or limiting their partners and keepin it light and not religious, to me are not ready for more deep relationships and really just learning who they are and what they want out of a partner.
I'm not saying a poly relation cannot be deep it certainly can, but I estaime not as deep as every single day, day in and out only one person (of course to qualify there is no dysfunction in said example relationship). I think ultimately one would pick the person that fulfills them the most for what their specific needs are. There are people that don't want to share all that of themselves with another, ever, and that's ok too.
As it relates to insurance of your spouse, where is that line drawn? Are you allowed to have 5 husbands or wives and 15 children on your insurance? Why would anyone divorce?
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The Earth is stressed out more than it has before, but as far as humans go, most evidence shows that things are better.polaris_x said:
that's what people think about diseases too ... that reporting and diagnoses is so much better now ... it's an illusion to the reality ... our evolvement has definitely brought about much things we can deem positive but in many respects it's gotten worse ...0 -
sure if you want to talk about smartphones and self-flushing toilets ... i'm talking about societies ... we've gone backwards in many of those areas ...Go Beavers said:
The Earth is stressed out more than it has before, but as far as humans go, most evidence shows that things are better.0 -
See world were there is no marriage and kids don't care how other kids family structure is formed as long as they have emotional support.
Word "fanatical" not needed preceding word "religion". Redundant and any parent threatening their children with eternal damnation and make believe characters is child abuse.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, but human beings pick their battles, and there is nothing wrong with that. Sure we're all born into a lifestyle that has a social construct. The question is how bad for a person or group of people is that social construct in relative terms? I would argue that a polygamous community is VERY VERY bad for girls to be born into. Others are much worse than the norm too. Like kids born into white supremacist communities or fanatical militaristic sects, or any fanatical religious sect, and so on. It is okay to qualify lifestyles. Some of the them are very obviously less healthy than others.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
Not all people of religion are fanatics.callen said:See world were there is no marriage and kids don't care how other kids family structure is formed as long as they have emotional support.
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I'm not referring to inventions of convenience. What are you using to measure that we've gone backward? And when was our peak?polaris_x said:
sure if you want to talk about smartphones and self-flushing toilets ... i'm talking about societies ... we've gone backwards in many of those areas ...0 -
I think it's far from perfect... but it's getting better all the time.Go Beavers said:
I'm not referring to inventions of convenience. What are you using to measure that we've gone backward? And when was our peak?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
i'm talking about human rights violations; the power of coporations; the corruption of gov't; bullying; respect for life; racism; discrimination ...Go Beavers said:
I'm not referring to inventions of convenience. What are you using to measure that we've gone backward? And when was our peak?0 -
I think polygamy is just wrong and disturbed. :peace:0
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That's greatGodfather. said:
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" I'm surprised anyone can watch the show and walk away saying that hey, this seems to work for this family so it can't be all that bad. To me, it looks like a little slice of hell for the most part.'
I didn't mean for it to come off like that. It's not okay for me. I don't know how accurate the TV show is, as there is a community out there. On the surface and for most people I don't think it's a healthy structure, for anyone.Amy The Great #74594
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If you go back in time... you'll find much worse.polaris_x said:
i'm talking about human rights violations; the power of coporations; the corruption of gov't; bullying; respect for life; racism; discrimination ...
As I said, it's far from perfect... but I think it's glacier-like getting better."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
You won't find the power of corporations to be much worse in the past. Not even close. But of course, generally, racism, respect for life, discrimination and whatnot was much MUCH MUCH worse even in the recent past, let alone the more distant past. Despite hiccups now, like NC, the sliding backwards of rights around women's health in some states, etc, for the most part, things have improved by leaps and bounds, especially for minorities, women, and gay people. I always find it weird when people talk about, say, the 1950s as the glory days, where everything was just so nice, and there was no violence, etc etc. It tells me that they both have no idea what the statistics were on crime back then, and also must be white males.
But yes, I feel like corporations are becoming more and more sinister by the day..... government too.... if you're talking about the USA.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I don't quite get this stuff. I wish I could find just one person to stick around long enough for something meaningful to develop. People out there with multiple wives and husbands, cheaters, etc, and still not happy with what they have... Meanwhile I go home to myself every night. I just don't fucking get it.
And to make tv shows about it and glorify it sickens me even more.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
hate self flushing toilets... they freak me out... especially when they flush when im not done.polaris_x said:
sure if you want to talk about smartphones and self-flushing toilets ... i'm talking about societies ... we've gone backwards in many of those areas ...
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I agree... just do it if you must... but do it privately.HesCalledDyer said:I don't quite get this stuff. I wish I could find just one person to stick around long enough for something meaningful to develop. People out there with multiple wives and husbands, cheaters, etc, and still not happy with what they have... Meanwhile I go home to myself every night. I just don't fucking get it.
And to make tv shows about it and glorify it sickens me even more.
tho as you know we live in such a voyeuristic society that EVERYTHING is fodder for so called reality tv. and as we know reality tv is the most unrealistic thing on tv.
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Honestly not bothered about poly marriages. Love who you love, including quantities.
What I'm slightly bothered by is what seems to be the common practice of one family having like 20 kids. Our planet is way too over populated as it is.NYC 06/24/08-Auckland 11/27/09-Chch 11/29/09-Newark 05/18/10-Atlanta 09/22/12-Chicago 07/19/13-Brooklyn 10/18/13 & 10/19/13-Hartford 10/25/13-Baltimore 10/27/13-Auckland 1/17/14-GC 1/19/14-Melbourne 1/24/14-Sydney 1/26/14-Amsterdam 6/16/14 & 6/17/14-Milan 6/20/14-Berlin 6/26/14-Leeds 7/8/14-Milton Keynes 7/11/14-St. Louis 10/3/14-NYC 9/26/15
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