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  • callen said:

    Two separate analogies. Read my reply to Anna.

    In rabbit hole, car accidents are accidents. Choosing to win a gun and increasing g chance of death is not. But separate subject matter.
    I know they are two separate analogies: one works one way for you and the other works a different way for you- but they are the same premise.

    I agree that we cannot overreact. I'd also say measures need to be taken. Exactly what those measures are... I'm not sure, but if I'm living in Europe right now, I don't think I could escape the feeling that another ticking time bomb is counting down. This wasn't the last event of this nature.

    If I ever became directly affected, I'd have much stronger feelings towards the subject.

    If we could control-alt-delete the current world situation and have everybody leave everybody else alone... I would spend more time in the 'Other Music' thread and every 5 years or so some time in the 'Show Review' thread.
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    callen said:

    Of course not. Pointing out we need to keep real threat in perspective so we don't over react and make matters worse. Add our fear mongering politicians using these spectacular events to drum up votes and appetite for war and it's spoils.
    You DONT want to diminish terrorist attacks?
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    mickeyrat said:

    You DONT want to diminish terrorist attacks?
    I'm guessing Callen doesn't want to diminish the significance of terror attacks. Hopefully we'd all like to diminish terrorist attacks.
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    Annafalk said:

    Ok I understand, I really hope peace in Syria is coming soon.
    Me as well.

    Always good to get your and other Europeans thoughts on these subjects.
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    benjs said:

    There's also the third option that a god doesn't intervene. Omniscience does not necessitate interventionism. Though maybe those were a few problems with Bush: he loved his god, thought himself omniscient and made in his god's image, and therefore was in favour of interventionism!
    not intervening = not giving a shit
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    not intervening = not giving a shit
    Yup. God must be a real asshat. He either causes this shit, or lets it happen. So if "he" exists, he should be ashamed of himself.
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    mickeyrat said:

    You DONT want to diminish terrorist attacks?
    Hell no. So much wrong as a supposedly civilized mammal to be killing each other. It's the patriotism and war mongering and over reaction of hate. Per my earlier thoughts to Anna.

    It's the evil doer drilling for fear thing.
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  • jeffbr said:

    Yup. God must be a real asshat. He either causes this shit, or lets it happen. So if "he" exists, he should be ashamed of himself.
    It's comical the arguments you get from bible thumpers about such an assertion: free will and choice has been given to us.

    You'd think that if we were God's creation... he'd have a bit more of an investment in us than what he displays. I'm not saying completely 'hands on' like Mark Cuban... but like maybe an appearance or two... or maybe even a miracle or something people could re-establish their faith with.

    He just sits there and watches everyone? Boring.

    * And if he's sitting there watching everyone... when does he find time to chill out with all the souls in Heaven?
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    Steeling this material mostly. but imagine living eternally. Even in heaven, torturous. There are relatives I don't want to see again. And going to hell to be with the devil? Well you're one of his, he wont torture you and he'll have all the hookers and blow. After living 2000 years you will need drugs and alcohol. And rock n roll. Think god will let you listen to PJ in heaven? Hell no.
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  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    jeffbr said:

    Yup. God must be a real asshat. He either causes this shit, or lets it happen. So if "he" exists, he should be ashamed of himself.
    I know there are religions which claim that the lack of intervention isn't for lack of care, but for desiring free will for people so they can make mistakes and learn lessons. Not my personal opinion, but people believe what they want to believe I guess.
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    benjs said:

    I know there are religions which claim that the lack of intervention isn't for lack of care, but for desiring free will for people so they can make mistakes and learn lessons. Not my personal opinion, but people believe what they want to believe I guess.
    Ben if it's nonsensical em think it's imperative to call it out. There is no doubt religion feeds terrorism. Sole cause no. But be great to get rid of this excuse.
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    Jimal... made a response in the Paris thread to a question I asked of JC (which he ducked). I thought it was fair.

    Poor assimilation. These f**king idiots made no connection with the country they were raised in. Call it what you want, but it's mass murder any way you want to look at it. Instead of a barking dog motivating them... a f**ked up ideology did the trick.

    Missed that question? What i duck?
  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,492
    if man created religion then religion is not the problem. man is.
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  • JC29856 said:

    Missed that question? What i duck?
    You said, "8 of 10 terrorists were European citizens."

    I asked what conclusions you drew from that statement.
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  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    callen said:

    Ben if it's nonsensical em think it's imperative to call it out. There is no doubt religion feeds terrorism. Sole cause no. But be great to get rid of this excuse.
    I agree with you. I also worry about the next excuse used to justify horrific actions, but I agree that it would be fantastic to get this one off the table.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,492
    if you ever want to get an interesting perspective on how a non-intervening god works, I shit you not, watch the Simpson's episode called The Genesis Tub. I do not believe in god, but it honestly gave me pause to think about how some people view god's role.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,492
    man creating a religion for a reason to go to war is the same thing as the US and its allies teaching you to hate a religion for a reason to go to war.
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  • if man created religion then religion is not the problem. man is.

    Man is definitely the problem.

    Accentuating the problem for some is religion. It acts like bath salts for some and makes them f**king idiots.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,492
    for all the "we need to do something about the terrorists" folk on here, serious question:

    what is the solution to stopping these attacks?
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,492
    callen said:

    Steeling this material mostly. but imagine living eternally. Even in heaven, torturous. There are relatives I don't want to see again. And going to hell to be with the devil? Well you're one of his, he wont torture you and he'll have all the hookers and blow. After living 2000 years you will need drugs and alcohol. And rock n roll. Think god will let you listen to PJ in heaven? Hell no.
    J Jeffries

    as i imagined it as a child, in heaven there is no hate, there is no grudges, you are souls, not beholden to your past as a human. there is no "ah fuck, I can't stand this guy, how do I get out of this conversation?". only pure love and peace. sounds pretty awesome to me. but again, I don't believe it.

    hell isn't for human-defined "bad things". those things bring you joy, so in hell (again, as I imagined it as a child), you do not get those things.
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