Scalia dead

Free said:

njnancy said:

JC29856 said:

pickupyourwill said:

I knew nothing about the man, but I think people have a right to be concerned if there was foul play involved in the death of man who holds such a powerful position in this country. After my dad's so-called "heart attack", I will never look at death the same way again. I believe there are many forces at work in this world--more than we can fathom.

Wooooow! Where is the foul play coming from?

Right wing radio has brought up a conspiracy theory that Obama had Scalia killed. He was going to kill Trump next and then Ron Paul. He probably used his friends in Isis, since he really is a secret Muslim warrior, to do the hit. Bangs head on wall.

I heard that too. Boy, people will believe anything they hear, or want to believe. That's where uninformed voters come from.

jeffbr said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJPOWER said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJPOWER said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

rgambs said:

PJPOWER said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i have a hobby lobby a half mile from my house. since the SC decision in the hobby lobby case i have had a couple thousand dollars of custom framing done. i went elsewhere. would it be more convenient for me to go to hobby lobby? sure. but i vote with my wallet, and they can go fuck themselves as far as i am concerned.

God bless America and having choices...

Hahaha unless it's liberals making the choices, then we need to take the country back!

absolutely.

damn whiney liberals.

sounds to me it is conservatives doing most of the whining these days.

Seems to me like liberals are [inappropriate quote removed by Admin] to have a free mouth for whining. Or maybe that's just on the PJ forums, lol

oh come on now.

take your country back.

but be sure to cry about it first.

scalia would want it that way.

actually he wouldn't. he would want obama to nominate someone and the senate do it's job. just like the letter of the constitution says.

So now Scalia is a great interpreter of the constitution? Laughable, this has become (in Yota voice). I've stated my piece and am done here. God bless you Gimme.

are people not saying that about scalia? was that not his reputation? is that not his legacy? is that not what he prided himself on?

thanks holy father. keep your hands off the kids.

Scalia's legacy will be that he contributed to a very right leaning court. It will also be that he was a great legal mind. He wrote many opinions I disagreed with as a libertarian. He also wrote important opinions on the protection of defendants rights. He wrote the definitive opinion on the 2nd amendment being an individual right as well. I'm equal opportunity when it comes to protection of individual liberties from overbearing government, so I like all of the Bill of Rights. I don't pick and choose.

I get that people are glad that the court is no longer a conservative court. I'm glad as well. The prospect of revisiting marriage equality or women's reproductive rights in front of a conservative court is something I'd like to see avoided. What I don't get is the vitriol and celebration over the death of someone who was respected by his peers, and performed his role consistently and according to how he read the law. But if his death makes some of you happy, enjoy your celebration, no matter how reprehensible and unseemly it might be. Isn't it funny that when Carter was sick, some of us who didn't see him as a particularly great and competent president could still see the good in the man, and praise his work and the good he's done? A little decorum, maturity and respect might go a long way toward bringing people together, rather than dividing and alienating. We aren't going to get that with our presidential candidates, or our sitting congresscritters, but perhaps we can do it ourselves.

njnancy said:

JC29856 said:

pickupyourwill said:

I knew nothing about the man, but I think people have a right to be concerned if there was foul play involved in the death of man who holds such a powerful position in this country. After my dad's so-called "heart attack", I will never look at death the same way again. I believe there are many forces at work in this world--more than we can fathom.

Wooooow! Where is the foul play coming from?

Right wing radio has brought up a conspiracy theory that Obama had Scalia killed. He was going to kill Trump next and then Ron Paul. He probably used his friends in Isis, since he really is a secret Muslim warrior, to do the hit. Bangs head on wall.

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

njnancy said:

JC29856 said:

pickupyourwill said:

I knew nothing about the man, but I think people have a right to be concerned if there was foul play involved in the death of man who holds such a powerful position in this country. After my dad's so-called "heart attack", I will never look at death the same way again. I believe there are many forces at work in this world--more than we can fathom.

Wooooow! Where is the foul play coming from?

Right wing radio has brought up a conspiracy theory that Obama had Scalia killed. He was going to kill Trump next and then Ron Paul. He probably used his friends in Isis, since he really is a secret Muslim warrior, to do the hit. Bangs head on wall.

the sad part is some people actually believe some of this stuff.

Including donald trump....

Donald Trump Joins the Chorus of Scalia Assassination Conspiracy Theorists
http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/02/donald-trump-joins-chorus-scalia-assassination-conspiracy-theorists

njnancy said:

Some people despised Scalia because of his arrogance in always voting conservatively and showing preferential treatment to lawyers he liked and being openly offensive & snarky to those he did not. Scalia was polarizing - on purpose - and this causes strong feelings in people. That has come out in some not giving a shit about his death and being happy that his influence is gone from the court.

Some people did not like Scalia for the same reasons but have been surprised at how only an hour after we learned of his death, McConnell issued a statement saying that the President should neglect his Constitutional duties. And the chiming in began. Here people have not expressed hatred for the man, have given him props for his place in history and are participating in the guessing game about what will happen next. Strong feelings about the GOP's statements are often expressed.

Some people don't really care that much either way about the whole thing but have a point about something they want to make - no emotions stated about his death either way.

Some are Scalia fans who want his death to be taken more seriously.

Some have lumped every single non conservative into one group and accuse us of dancing on the man's grave while whining about our President carrying out his Constitutional duties I don't know if this is from true convictions.or if they are using supposed outrage just to litigate against Obama because it all comes back to Obama not being held in the same regard as those before him and liberals are just clueless whiners who need to be shown the light.

I fall into the second group, and do not begrudge anyone else their opinion, unless they have shown an inability to be civil to those who have different opinions or values. You can't be neutral on a moving train, but you shouldn't be demeaning. Like our great ex President GWB said yesterday, labels are for soup cans.

gimmesometruth27 said:

njnancy said:

JC29856 said:

pickupyourwill said:

I knew nothing about the man, but I think people have a right to be concerned if there was foul play involved in the death of man who holds such a powerful position in this country. After my dad's so-called "heart attack", I will never look at death the same way again. I believe there are many forces at work in this world--more than we can fathom.

Wooooow! Where is the foul play coming from?

Right wing radio has brought up a conspiracy theory that Obama had Scalia killed. He was going to kill Trump next and then Ron Paul. He probably used his friends in Isis, since he really is a secret Muslim warrior, to do the hit. Bangs head on wall.

the sad part is some people actually believe some of this stuff.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

njnancy said:

Some people despised Scalia because of his arrogance in always voting conservatively and showing preferential treatment to lawyers he liked and being openly offensive & snarky to those he did not. Scalia was polarizing - on purpose - and this causes strong feelings in people. That has come out in some not giving a shit about his death and being happy that his influence is gone from the court.

Some people did not like Scalia for the same reasons but have been surprised at how only an hour after we learned of his death, McConnell issued a statement saying that the President should neglect his Constitutional duties. And the chiming in began. Here people have not expressed hatred for the man, have given him props for his place in history and are participating in the guessing game about what will happen next. Strong feelings about the GOP's statements are often expressed.

Some people don't really care that much either way about the whole thing but have a point about something they want to make - no emotions stated about his death either way.

Some are Scalia fans who want his death to be taken more seriously.

Some have lumped every single non conservative into one group and accuse us of dancing on the man's grave while whining about our President carrying out his Constitutional duties I don't know if this is from true convictions.or if they are using supposed outrage just to litigate against Obama because it all comes back to Obama not being held in the same regard as those before him and liberals are just clueless whiners who need to be shown the light.

I fall into the second group, and do not begrudge anyone else their opinion, unless they have shown an inability to be civil to those who have different opinions or values. You can't be neutral on a moving train, but you shouldn't be demeaning. Like our great ex President GWB said yesterday, labels are for soup cans.

Great ex president GWB?

Great?

Seriously?

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

I am not surprised his death is being cheered on the Train. Some of you continue to have blinders on and just do not see how full of hate you are and completely intolerant of others opinions. The guy doesn't get to the supreme court and be respected by the most liberal judges on the court (even great friends with and travel companions) by being a bigot. He just interprets the constitution from his viewpoint and others view it differently. He still respected his peers on the court and they respected him, but on the Train it is the epitome of "My way or the highway" per usual. Cheering death for anyone you disagree with.

I do not cheer for death of people just because I disagree with them. I cheer for the death of people who I think are rotten human beings who cause harm to the world. Scalia applies.

PS - couldn't care less if you think being glad he's dead is bad taste. That guy was a motherfucker as far as I'm concerned and I am pleased as punch that his voice is gone from the US supreme court. Death was the only thing that would shut the fucker up.

Classy.

Oh please.

rgambs said:

bootlegger10 said:

njnancy said:

tempo_n_groove said:

myoung321 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

give it 50 years. scalia's rulings will be judged by history to be as backwards as the dred scott decision and separate but equal.

No different than the rest of the Conservatives throughout our history

Conservatives opposed the American Revolution
Conservatives opposed freeing the slaves
Conservatives opposed women’s suffrage
Conservatives opposed public school
Conservatives opposed fighting fascism in Europe
Conservatives opposed minimum wage and child labor laws, the 8-hour work day, weekends, sick leave… etc.
Conservatives opposed humane treatment of animals
Conservatives opposed the Social Security Act
Conservatives opposed the Farm Act
Conservatives opposed the Interstate Highway System
Conservatives oppose clean air and water
Conservatives opposed the Civil Right’s Act
Conservatives opposed the G.I. Bill
Conservatives opposed Medicare
Conservatives oppose Equal Protection Under the Law
.....etc...etc..etc..

the list is endless......!!!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the conservatives were the complete opposite of what they are now!!

Also Scalia was just slightly out of touch with the world,no?!?

Republicans used to be more moderate and tolerant - ie - Lincoln and slavery. Then Southern Democrats - Dixiecrats - split with Democrats and went to Republicans and the moral majority and conservatism in social issues became a large part of the Republican party platform and Democrats became more socially liberal. Conservatism is an ideology in the Republican party.

Scalia was very comfortable in his view of the world. It's just that it was not in touch with the change in attitudes of most Americans. Hence - the cry to 'take our country back'. I always want someone to finish the sentence with who they are taking it back from.

Taking it back from people who do not allow a non-liberal/progressive viewpoint. For example, Mozilla CEO being fired because he gave a $1,000 to the wrong PAC due to a few whiny people on social media.

Hahaha awww poor baby! He will probably only be rich for the rest of his life

That's how the free market works, people vote with their wallets. It's all fine and good for him to donate money to actively deny rights to American citizens, but not ok for American citizens to say "Bullshit" and refuse to do business with said bigot? It seems like you are biased towards those who try to make bigots own their words. Strange.