What if Humans Aren’t the Most Intelligent Creatures on the Planet?

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,507
    I feel awful, looking back about 5 years, that I took my daughter to a circus, and we rode an elephant together. I can't imagine how awful it is for that animal to be paraded around in circles with kids on its back all day. Elch. If I ever ran for office, I'd outlaw zoos and circuses (and any kind of animal entertainment) in my area.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,507
    brianlux said:

    "Ecologically speaking, we are without a doubt the most stupid of all the species. One day I was arguing with a Norwegian whaler who said to me, "Watson, how can you say that whales are more intelligent than people?" I replied, "Well, I measure the intelligence of species based on its ability to live in harmony with the natural world, and according that that criterion, whales are more intelligent than humans. To which he replied, "But if that is the criterion, beetles are more intelligent than we are." So I said to him, "George, you are beginning to understand what I'm trying to tell you. The big concern is that ecology is a matter of survival, and so we cannot maintain the same level of stupidity much longer."

    -Paul Watson in Interview With a Pirate, Captain Paul Watson, Lamya Essemlali with Paul Watson, page 45

    I can see that. It's just that I see that as a different type of intelligence than I was originally thinking. something like "ecologically intellectually superior". there are different types of intelligence that we are already discovering within our own species; emotional intelligence, for instance.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited February 2016
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I feel awful, looking back about 5 years, that I took my daughter to a circus, and we rode an elephant together. I can't imagine how awful it is for that animal to be paraded around in circles with kids on its back all day. Elch. If I ever ran for office, I'd outlaw zoos and circuses (and any kind of animal entertainment) in my area.

    I'm torn on zoo's and have had incredible experiences visiting them. They do good work and keep species alive. Now quality of life is horrible. But biggest problem is human reproduction and taking of species habitats. And fk the church for promoting it.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    An interesting article that talks about the brain power of cetaceans:

    http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/human-intelligence-versus-whales-and-dolphins/

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    -Roberto Benigni

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