If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
No, there are many incredible things/abilities thatoccur in nature that I find utterly astounding, but I dont equte those with overall intelligence. I am not dismissing anything, I just have a different way of defining it.
I just think the general feeling is that people who are unhappy with the way humans conduct themselves, whether through individual experience, or in mass disappointment with the perceived failure of man with regards to other species and the Earth as a whole, are the ones that seem to have a general bias towards humankind and their intelligence.
With all of the wrongs man has committed against itself and its environment, that does not alone make us lesser than other beings. Look around. Look at the sheer marvel of what we have created (regardless of what personal value you may put on those achievements, they are remarkable nonetheless), and how we have been able to elongate the very lifespan of our own species. The development of medical science alone, in my mind, makes it indisputable.
Necessity is the mother of invention! If we had a stable environment and abundance in the resources we need as a species, we wouldn't be seeing the "achievements" that make us the kings of the Earth. It's not about emotion for me, just raw brain potential...in which we probably are the winners, but it's a tighter race than many think.
I agree with you on this! Again like I said before.. The only reason animals never evolved further, is because there was no reason to.
So if that logic stands even semi firm, and ghe animals have mastered evolutionary necessity, then how are they less intelligent? ( although that can be washed out by the argument that every species is constantly evolving..)
So if that logic stands even semi firm, and ghe animals have mastered evolutionary necessity, then how are they less intelligent? ( although that can be washed out by the argument that every species is constantly evolving..)
So if that logic stands even semi firm, and ghe animals have mastered evolutionary necessity, then how are they less intelligent? ( although that can be washed out by the argument that every species is constantly evolving..)
If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
No, there are many incredible things/abilities thatoccur in nature that I find utterly astounding, but I dont equte those with overall intelligence. I am not dismissing anything, I just have a different way of defining it.
I just think the general feeling is that people who are unhappy with the way humans conduct themselves, whether through individual experience, or in mass disappointment with the perceived failure of man with regards to other species and the Earth as a whole, are the ones that seem to have a general bias towards humankind and their intelligence.
With all of the wrongs man has committed against itself and its environment, that does not alone make us lesser than other beings. Look around. Look at the sheer marvel of what we have created (regardless of what personal value you may put on those achievements, they are remarkable nonetheless), and how we have been able to elongate the very lifespan of our own species. The development of medical science alone, in my mind, makes it indisputable.
Necessity is the mother of invention! If we had a stable environment and abundance in the resources we need as a species, we wouldn't be seeing the "achievements" that make us the kings of the Earth. It's not about emotion for me, just raw brain potential...in which we probably are the winners, but it's a tighter race than many think.
I agree with you on this! Again like I said before.. The only reason animals never evolved further, is because there was no reason to.
That's an interesting perspective, W.H.! I like that a lot!
I'm guessing some day we will finally break the Dolphin Code and be able to speak with these sea mammals. If so, and if a researcher were to ask dolphins, "So why didn't you evolve further?" I'm guessing they will answer, "What, and become like you idiots?" Haha!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
No, there are many incredible things/abilities thatoccur in nature that I find utterly astounding, but I dont equte those with overall intelligence. I am not dismissing anything, I just have a different way of defining it.
I just think the general feeling is that people who are unhappy with the way humans conduct themselves, whether through individual experience, or in mass disappointment with the perceived failure of man with regards to other species and the Earth as a whole, are the ones that seem to have a general bias towards humankind and their intelligence.
With all of the wrongs man has committed against itself and its environment, that does not alone make us lesser than other beings. Look around. Look at the sheer marvel of what we have created (regardless of what personal value you may put on those achievements, they are remarkable nonetheless), and how we have been able to elongate the very lifespan of our own species. The development of medical science alone, in my mind, makes it indisputable.
Necessity is the mother of invention! If we had a stable environment and abundance in the resources we need as a species, we wouldn't be seeing the "achievements" that make us the kings of the Earth. It's not about emotion for me, just raw brain potential...in which we probably are the winners, but it's a tighter race than many think.
I agree with you on this! Again like I said before.. The only reason animals never evolved further, is because there was no reason to.
That's an interesting perspective, W.H.! I like that a lot!
I'm guessing some day we will finally break the Dolphin Code and be able to speak with these sea mammals. If so, and if a researcher were to ask dolphins, "So why didn't you evolve further?" I'm guessing they will answer, "What, and become like you idiots?" Haha!
I'm pretty sure they have and to varying degrees. For example... the polar bear from the bear family is white to blend in with its environment. This was an evolutionary event.
I'm not super pleased with the human race in general, but I have to agree with the sentiments that express we were gifted with superior intelligence and advantages (the opposable thumb for example).
I wonder about whales and dolphins though. I think we cannot begin to truly understand the depths of their intelligence. Their communication methods are incomprehensible to us. Their social structures are interesting. Their brains are large. And we fail miserably in their environment making any comparisons challenging to say the least.
I wonder about whales and dolphins though. I think we cannot begin to truly understand the depths of their intelligence. Their communication methods are incomprehensible to us. Their social structures are interesting. Their brains are large. And we fail miserably in their environment making any comparisons challenging to say the least.
Have you ever seen a pod of killer whales hunt?
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First, I never have seen that but imagine they're brutal and succinct in action.
And, agreed about those two (as well as monkeys and apes). My gut tells me there is SO much to them, their thoughts and their instincts.
I'm pretty sure they have and to varying degrees. For example... the polar bear from the bear family is white to blend in with its environment. This was an evolutionary event.
I'm not super pleased with the human race in general, but I have to agree with the sentiments that express we were gifted with superior intelligence and advantages (the opposable thumb for example).
I wonder about whales and dolphins though. I think we cannot begin to truly understand the depths of their intelligence. Their communication methods are incomprehensible to us. Their social structures are interesting. Their brains are large. And we fail miserably in their environment making any comparisons challenging to say the least.
Have you ever seen a pod of killer whales hunt?
Actually, it gets even better than that TBU! Polar bears are actually black skinned covered in a double coat of clear hair.
And I never said they QUIT evolving. I just stated they haven't evolved any further than necessity incurred. Does that mean any of us are through evolving, nope. We're just at a stable point now where the evolutionary process has plataued a bit.
And I never said they QUIT evolving. I just stated they haven't evolved any further than necessity incurred. Does that mean any of us are through evolving, nope. We're just at a stable point now where the evolutionary process has plataued a bit.
And I never said they QUIT evolving. I just stated they haven't evolved any further than necessity incurred. Does that mean any of us are through evolving, nope. We're just at a stable point now where the evolutionary process has plataued a bit.
But there's a lot that remains to be seen. Staying with the most recent examples, the disappearing habitat of the polar bear will likely yield some interesting evolutionary changes borne out of necessity. We won't be around to see them though- these things take time (or the animal becomes extinct failing to adapt).
If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
Have thought about this many times. Some seriously high IQ people I've met can't use hammer and nail. Different types of intelligence and can see how whales and other mammals could have intelligence we'll never comprehend.
Also it would be a big problem for our psyche if we found out all those cows that we slaughter and eat had high intelligence on another level.
Again, given what I know about the animal kingdom, in ALL regional aspects, I cannot say humans are the most intelligent creature on earth. But I will give you all this: We are the most intelligent creature in our environment. And this has just been blowing my mind all day since the collective findings got turned in last night, and the responses started rolling in this morning. We are still learning more and more about the human/dog relativity factor over the initial human/wolf relativity factor. So far the conclusion is that in evolutionary strides the fog has surpassed the chimps and other primates in it's ability to understand visual communication, pointing, hand gestures etc! However, the are able to learn sign language... But in all actuality, it has to be taught to them. And even when instructed, they can't infer what the meanings are.. But we're finding that dogs can. Very interesting.. My mind has been blown for hours talking to the primate specialists about the differences!
And I never said they QUIT evolving. I just stated they haven't evolved any further than necessity incurred. Does that mean any of us are through evolving, nope. We're just at a stable point now where the evolutionary process has plataued a bit.
But there's a lot that remains to be seen. Staying with the most recent examples, the disappearing habitat of the polar bear will likely yield some interesting evolutionary changes borne out of necessity. We won't be around to see them though- these things take time (or the animal becomes extinct failing to adapt).
If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
Have thought about this many times. Some seriously high IQ people I've met can't use hammer and nail. Different types of intelligence and can see how whales and other mammals could have intelligence we'll never comprehend.
Also it would be a big problem for our psyche if we found out all those cows that we slaughter and eat had high intelligence on another level.
I like this thought line, but it made me laugh, cause having been around cattle for at least half my working life, I'd cry with surprises laughter if this ever came to pass.. But a very interesting point indeed.
Let me find my favorite, where the pod teaches their young to hint as a collective group.
By the way hunting as a collective unit is a rarity shared by only a few species! The list includes Killer whales, Dolphins, Wolves, Lions, and meerkats.
If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
Have thought about this many times. Some seriously high IQ people I've met can't use hammer and nail. Different types of intelligence and can see how whales and other mammals could have intelligence we'll never comprehend.
Also it would be a big problem for our psyche if we found out all those cows that we slaughter and eat had high intelligence on another level.
I like this thought line, but it made me laugh, cause having been around cattle for at least half my working life, I'd cry with surprises laughter if this ever came to pass.. But a very interesting point indeed.
Yes I did pick extreme example and have cows living next to me so haven't observed any intelligence. But as with horses look into their eyes and do wonder. Also the calves are inquisitive and playful.
This wasn't the clip I was looking for, but it shows them in the hunt. The whales organize themselves into chasers that chase the prey into other whales that wait for them (surrounding them in a way):
I could add more- they hunt birds... and they wash seals off ice by creating waves. They have so many different techniques that work for the specific prey they intend to eat. As the guy in the second clip said, it's cultural.
If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
Have thought about this many times. Some seriously high IQ people I've met can't use hammer and nail. Different types of intelligence and can see how whales and other mammals could have intelligence we'll never comprehend.
Also it would be a big problem for our psyche if we found out all those cows that we slaughter and eat had high intelligence on another level.
I like this thought line, but it made me laugh, cause having been around cattle for at least half my working life, I'd cry with surprises laughter if this ever came to pass.. But a very interesting point indeed.
Yes I did pick extreme example and have cows living next to me so haven't observed any intelligence. But as with horses look into their eyes and do wonder. Also the calves are inquisitive and playful.
And honestly, they aren't dumb. They can be trained. They just has no interior intelligence. ( meaning without trainingnof any sort, they just muddle along).. Like sheep, cows can get 'lost' in a fence corner. It's not until they see an older cow turn out of it that they learn to 'escape'. The worst part is.. Often there are no older cows that have had to escape this scenario. I've seen cows starve to death in a corner!
If we weren't the most intelligent animals on the planet, we wouldn't be on top of the food chain. Luckily dinosaurs aren't around anymore.
I haven't read the article yet. But it looks interesting.
The dumb kids regularly beats up the smart kid.
that's not really an accurate summary of what Last 12 was trying to say, in my view.
Sure, if we think of intelligence outside the box as being in harmony with nature and our overall surroundings, one could argue that humanity is actually less intelligent than in years past (as the article also mentions-like untouched tribes). But then we have to redefine intelligence. I think intelligence is seperate from action. Sure, many humans destroy the earth, litter, kill each other, leave the lights on when they aren't home, etc, etc, but that doesn't mean that COLLECTIVELY the human race is less intelligent than a whale or a dolphin.
many humans are pleasantly ignorant of their negative surroundings, completely happy, do nothing but good, but does that make them more intelligent than someone with a higher IQ? I don't know about that.
I don't consider that intelligent, in the traditional sense of the word. Intelligent to me is brain capacity. Emotional intelligence is differentiated for a reason. there is emotional, and there is cranial.
I quoted this one, but my response to you is more to the body of your posts in this thread. Even if intelligence is brain capacity alone, you are dismissing some serious brain capacities. The power of "echo location" is a brain capacity that is very impressive, and many ocean dwellers have spatial memory that far surpasses our own. There is much to be considered in defining intelligence, for instanceLeBron James is one of the most intelligent men on the planet in a particular fashion... It takes serious neural firing to perform such athletic feats. A vast majority of the brain is connected to the visual system, and we don't even have particularly good vision.
Have thought about this many times. Some seriously high IQ people I've met can't use hammer and nail. Different types of intelligence and can see how whales and other mammals could have intelligence we'll never comprehend.
Also it would be a big problem for our psyche if we found out all those cows that we slaughter and eat had high intelligence on another level.
That's an interesting perspective, Callen, the idea that intelligence and our manual dexterity don't always coincide. Some very smart people are good with their hands, but some of the very smartest not so. I have a friend who received a PhD from M.I.T. in his early twenties. His IQ is somewhere in the high 150's. He literally has a hard time tying his shoes and brushing his hair. Which leads me to wonder- why couldn't some sea mammals be more intelligent than us? Surely not because they can't perform heart surgery or paint the Sistine Chapel. I'm led to consider that manual dexterity may not at all reflect greater intelligence. And those videos are fascinating and might indicate the same thing.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Obviously most think that production/technology/science = demonstrably most intelligent by far. I tend to disagree. I think we just use our intelligence in a different way. A way that people consider superior.
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Obviously most think that production/technology/science = demonstrably most intelligent by far. I tend to disagree. I think we just use our intelligence in a different way. A way that people consider superior.
We do so many things that betray any level of intelligence we might boast about as well. I mean, look at your decision to scrap the U2 show in your backyard.
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And, this continues to be a fascinating thread.
I'm guessing some day we will finally break the Dolphin Code and be able to speak with these sea mammals. If so, and if a researcher were to ask dolphins, "So why didn't you evolve further?" I'm guessing they will answer, "What, and become like you idiots?" Haha!
I'm pretty sure they have and to varying degrees. For example... the polar bear from the bear family is white to blend in with its environment. This was an evolutionary event.
I'm not super pleased with the human race in general, but I have to agree with the sentiments that express we were gifted with superior intelligence and advantages (the opposable thumb for example).
I wonder about whales and dolphins though. I think we cannot begin to truly understand the depths of their intelligence. Their communication methods are incomprehensible to us. Their social structures are interesting. Their brains are large. And we fail miserably in their environment making any comparisons challenging to say the least.
Have you ever seen a pod of killer whales hunt?
First, I never have seen that but imagine they're brutal and succinct in action.
And, agreed about those two (as well as monkeys and apes). My gut tells me there is SO much to them, their thoughts and their instincts.
Also it would be a big problem for our psyche if we found out all those cows that we slaughter and eat had high intelligence on another level.
But I will give you all this:
We are the most intelligent creature in our environment.
And this has just been blowing my mind all day since the collective findings got turned in last night, and the responses started rolling in this morning. We are still learning more and more about the human/dog relativity factor over the initial human/wolf relativity factor. So far the conclusion is that in evolutionary strides the fog has surpassed the chimps and other primates in it's ability to understand visual communication, pointing, hand gestures etc! However, the are able to learn sign language... But in all actuality, it has to be taught to them. And even when instructed, they can't infer what the meanings are.. But we're finding that dogs can. Very interesting.. My mind has been blown for hours talking to the primate specialists about the differences!
By the way hunting as a collective unit is a rarity shared by only a few species! The list includes Killer whales, Dolphins, Wolves, Lions, and meerkats.
This is crazy smart!
I could add more- they hunt birds... and they wash seals off ice by creating waves. They have so many different techniques that work for the specific prey they intend to eat. As the guy in the second clip said, it's cultural.
I'm going to have to watch the others from home (work doesn't "like" when we stream videos. pffft!)
I tend to disagree. I think we just use our intelligence in a different way. A way that people consider superior.
(kidding)