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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:

    Major news media would love nothing more than to have a juicy gory new news item everyday. :frowning:

    We can do the innuendo, we can dance and sing
    When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
    We all know that crap is king
    Give us dirty laundry
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,714
    brianlux said:

    Major news media would love nothing more than to have a juicy gory new news item everyday. :frowning:

    nature of 24/7 news cycles. the one "big' event gets speculated to death, the actual truth gets buried in between the lines.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    nature of 24/7 news cycles. the one "big' event gets speculated to death, the actual truth gets buried in between the lines.
    So does this comment from your political guy Mike Huckabee "There's no excuse for killing other people, whether it's happening inside the Planned Parent headquarters, inside their clinics, where many millions of babies die, or whether it's people attacking Planned Parenthood," Huckabee said on CNN's "State of the Union." from this article http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/threats-are-nothing-new-for-planned-parenthood-insiders-say-1.2679350 bury any truth or has this whole domestic terrorism spectacle become political now.
    This shooting is now forgotten and is producing new headlines.
    In a nutshell who is the Huckabee guy? Seems like a dick to me.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,714
    edited November 2015

    So does this comment from your political guy Mike Huckabee "There's no excuse for killing other people, whether it's happening inside the Planned Parent headquarters, inside their clinics, where many millions of babies die, or whether it's people attacking Planned Parenthood," Huckabee said on CNN's "State of the Union." from this article http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/threats-are-nothing-new-for-planned-parenthood-insiders-say-1.2679350 bury any truth or has this whole domestic terrorism spectacle become political now.
    This shooting is now forgotten and is producing new headlines.
    In a nutshell who is the Huckabee guy? Seems like a dick to me.
    Huckabee is a former preacher/govenor of arkansas now running for president. He was one of the "outraged" gop hucksters slamming PP and stood with Kim Davis of county clerk fame in a selfserving political move. He is a fucking douchebag.

    Now he makes this statement while also peddling the idea of sending troops into Syria which would result in killing american soldiers and even more innocents. He would seek to close the borders to any refugee.


    whats now known or been released is the civilian victims. A Mother of 2 and a male Iraqi war veteran. Both said to be there offering support for friends.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    hedonist said:

    PJ, no. I think sick fucks are sick fucks.
    I know, I wasn't talking about you of course. I wasn't talking about anyone here specifically. Was just a general comment about widespread reactions.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    mickeyrat said:

    I would agree with her statement. a muslim killing people HERE would spark outrage and be on everyones lips. She can certainly verify if this is true , but I do believe that is what she referred to. an event IN the US.
    Yes, that is what I meant.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    brianlux said:

    Major news media would love nothing more than to have a juicy gory new news item everyday. :frowning:

    Absolutely. I feel like I can see the glee sparkling in the jounalists' eyes when some terrible event that is cause for blanket breaking news happens. They are practically salivating.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,950
    PJ_Soul said:

    Absolutely. I feel like I can see the glee sparkling in the jounalists' eyes when some terrible event that is cause for blanket breaking news happens. They are practically salivating.
    Absolutely! And the thing is, the more Pavlovian the news, the more people want to eat it up-- devour it even. Thanks to some of these eager beaver journalists (with no offense toward those who try to report news as accurately as possible), an event such as a tragic loss of life through violence becomes a Roman spectacle with thumbs going every which way and the reality of it often gets lost in the hoopla.

    When I was a kid, I remember seeing this tradgic movie called "Ace in the Hole" (they actually called it "The Big Carnival" on TV) about a guy trapped in a mine and the reporters where so eager to keep the story they literally turned it into a circus. That really blew my mind. I wish every kid, when they're old enough for it, would see that one.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    Callen...

    I enjoy every one of your comments on the topics you highlighted. It's when we begin to figure out what to do with these dipshits when I start to get agitated with your comments.

    You wanna scratch their back and massage their feet- I want to throw them off a bridge sooo... we're pretty far apart there LOL!
    Thirty honored when you bring me up in your replies. Just been away for bit and catching up and see you referenced my posting style. All good.

    DP still not defensible. :)
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    Does every single thread in thread in this section have to bring up "Muslims"?

    The first time I heard about this story, "planned parenthood, attacked" didn't even register as an actual shooting. There's been so much going on lately, with those videos and the lady in charge being questioned before the Senate committee or whatever the hell that was, the clinics being forced to close in Texas and Missouri, and the regular daily protests outside clinic doors. Planned parenthood has been under attack so long and so much lately that honestly it's a wonder we don't get mass shootings at planned parenthood clinics more often. Though, really, I suspect the dwindling number of clinics might be a factor in that.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,950
    ldent42 said:

    Does every single thread in thread in this section have to bring up "Muslims"?

    The first time I heard about this story, "planned parenthood, attacked" didn't even register as an actual shooting. There's been so much going on lately, with those videos and the lady in charge being questioned before the Senate committee or whatever the hell that was, the clinics being forced to close in Texas and Missouri, and the regular daily protests outside clinic doors. Planned parenthood has been under attack so long and so much lately that honestly it's a wonder we don't get mass shootings at planned parenthood clinics more often. Though, really, I suspect the dwindling number of clinics might be a factor in that.

    We bumped up our support for Planned Parenthood this year. I get so tired of the abuse of this most helpful organization. A bunch of fundamentalist Christian yahoos have taken to gathering downtown with their anti-abortion posters. It's their right to assemble and I respect that but I don't respect their yelling their slogans at me and waving their Bibles at me every time I walk or drive by. Last time I drove by them and they yelled at me I yelled back, "Dinosaurs!" and just happened to have a Dinosaur Jr CD on and cranked it up a bit.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,506
    just imagine if the shooter's name was "Mohammed"....
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,950
    ldent42 said:

    Does every single thread in thread in this section have to bring up "Muslims"?

    The first time I heard about this story, "planned parenthood, attacked" didn't even register as an actual shooting. There's been so much going on lately, with those videos and the lady in charge being questioned before the Senate committee or whatever the hell that was, the clinics being forced to close in Texas and Missouri, and the regular daily protests outside clinic doors. Planned parenthood has been under attack so long and so much lately that honestly it's a wonder we don't get mass shootings at planned parenthood clinics more often. Though, really, I suspect the dwindling number of clinics might be a factor in that.

    just imagine if the shooter's name was "Mohammed"....

    Ah huh.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,506
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,950
    Haha! Yes, funny Onion stuff as always but sad too because there's just that little hint of reality in the satire.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    This one isn't a humorous article unfortunately, but it gives examples of previous attacks. I'm addressing (and thus retracting) my comment earlier in which I expressed surprise PP clinics aren't violently attacked more often. Turns out they are, but not to this extent, and without as much coverage. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/565c83b4e4b08e945febc888?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,950
    ldent42 said:

    This one isn't a humorous article unfortunately, but it gives examples of previous attacks. I'm addressing (and thus retracting) my comment earlier in which I expressed surprise PP clinics aren't violently attacked more often. Turns out they are, but not to this extent, and without as much coverage. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/565c83b4e4b08e945febc888?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

    I know I've told this story before but one more time: My sister used to drive by a PP clinic on her way to work and one day she saw protesters aggressively harassing the employees attempting to go to work. She got out of her car and told them, "I'm going to go in there and write them a check for $100 and I'll do this every time I see you out here bullying these employees". Sure enough, the next day she wrote a check and the next and the next. I'm not sure how much she gave to this clinic but I know it was a lot. Eventually it worked and the protesters finally left for good. I was so proud of my sister!
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    brianlux said:

    I know I've told this story before but one more time: My sister used to drive by a PP clinic on her way to work and one day she saw protesters aggressively harassing the employees attempting to go to work. She got out of her car and told them, "I'm going to go in there and write them a check for $100 and I'll do this every time I see you out here bullying these employees". Sure enough, the next day she wrote a check and the next and the next. I'm not sure how much she gave to this clinic but I know it was a lot. Eventually it worked and the protesters finally left for good. I was so proud of my sister!
    That's really cool B-lux. Best part of it is, regardless of the actual amount of money she donated, the ultimate gift of getting those protesters to fuck off is in fact priceless. Good on her.

    When I first learned about "clinic escorts" I wanted to volunteer to be one, but there isn't really a need for that around here. If for some god forsaken reason I end up living someplace where clinic escorts are necessary, I'll def sign up.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,950
    ldent42 said:

    That's really cool B-lux. Best part of it is, regardless of the actual amount of money she donated, the ultimate gift of getting those protesters to fuck off is in fact priceless. Good on her.

    When I first learned about "clinic escorts" I wanted to volunteer to be one, but there isn't really a need for that around here. If for some god forsaken reason I end up living someplace where clinic escorts are necessary, I'll def sign up.
    Very cool! I didn't know about that.

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    A new PP clinic is opening here in West Hollywood and it's all over the news. I can't imagine any kind of protests, let alone crime (two minutes from the Sheriff's Department), happening there. Yet the newsfolks are pre-emptively wringing their hands.

    Jesus!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,714
    hedonist said:

    A new PP clinic is opening here in West Hollywood and it's all over the news. I can't imagine any kind of protests, let alone crime (two minutes from the Sheriff's Department), happening there. Yet the newsfolks are pre-emptively wringing their hands.

    Jesus!

    In a lot of ways the media are vampires and enemies to the common good.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,117
    brianlux said:

    I know I've told this story before but one more time: My sister used to drive by a PP clinic on her way to work and one day she saw protesters aggressively harassing the employees attempting to go to work. She got out of her car and told them, "I'm going to go in there and write them a check for $100 and I'll do this every time I see you out here bullying these employees". Sure enough, the next day she wrote a check and the next and the next. I'm not sure how much she gave to this clinic but I know it was a lot. Eventually it worked and the protesters finally left for good. I was so proud of my sister!
    Good for her. Certainly you should be allowed to protest but definitely not harrass.
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    brianlux said:

    Absolutely! And the thing is, the more Pavlovian the news, the more people want to eat it up-- devour it even. Thanks to some of these eager beaver journalists (with no offense toward those who try to report news as accurately as possible), an event such as a tragic loss of life through violence becomes a Roman spectacle with thumbs going every which way and the reality of it often gets lost in the hoopla.

    When I was a kid, I remember seeing this tradgic movie called "Ace in the Hole" (they actually called it "The Big Carnival" on TV) about a guy trapped in a mine and the reporters where so eager to keep the story they literally turned it into a circus. That really blew my mind. I wish every kid, when they're old enough for it, would see that one.
    mickeyrat said:

    In a lot of ways the media are vampires and enemies to the common good.
    Journalist (well, ex-journalist) backs out of thread before getting drawn and quartered by rapacious pitchfork-wielding know-it-alls (one of whom got that way by watching a movie).
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    dankind said:

    Journalist (well, ex-journalist) backs out of thread before getting drawn and quartered by rapacious pitchfork-wielding know-it-alls (one of whom got that way by watching a movie).
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,714
    dankind said:

    Journalist (well, ex-journalist) backs out of thread before getting drawn and quartered by rapacious pitchfork-wielding know-it-alls (one of whom got that way by watching a movie).
    Can you show me instances of journalistic integrity related to PP, this incident and the like?
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,457

    I give this story until Wednesday to disappear from the headlines. (Paris is virtually gone now)
    It will be replaced by another terrorist act abroad or domestically.
    It made good headlines and we got to see a mugshot of some crazy motherfucker who defines the mold for the DP.

    That's what gets me. Stuff like this seems to get swept under the rug so quickly. Yet Nancy Grace spends 8 months talking about one child being killed by her mother.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    edited December 2015
    Journalists and the news media have probs, but let's also remember that it's freedom of the press that is probably most responsible for keeping western politicians in some kind of check. We NEED journalists.
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited December 2015
    Mickey, I could, but I think that you, PJ_Soul, Brian and Hedo are all smart enough to separate the wheat (journalism) from the chaff (infotainment). I assume that you and Hedo were talking about the latter, since you used the catch-all term "media" and it seemed as though Hedo was taking about the local TV news. PJ_Soul and Brian used the term "journalists," though, and that is a disservice to a noble, honorable, important profession without which our world would be much worse off than it is already.

    (If you honestly don't know where to find news that is reported with integrity, I'll pm you some links. I didn't want to insult your intelligence by taking you seriously when it seemed as though you were being sarcastic.)
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    DK, definitely local news. I just want to know what's going on my area as I start the day (and they do toss in tiny slices of national and world news), but they're mostly a fucking vapid unprofessional lot.

    As to your integrity, I know you've got it :)
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