In This Country Is There Fear Of Black People?
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Hey G.Im not rascist,nor am I afraid of people with color.but you and I both know we wouldn't walk down Tamarind ave here in the 561 at anytime of the evening.What does that say?0
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It says 'let down your guard and take some chances'... RR.rr165892 said:Hey G.Im not rascist,nor am I afraid of people with color.but you and I both know we wouldn't walk down Tamarind ave here in the 561 at anytime of the evening.What does that say?
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More like get shanked and robbed 300
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Yes you would right about Tamarind Ave at anytime near dark.....just not my part of town. However, I might have and I say MIGHT have less difficulty traversing that part of town. I seem to have a knack in being able to engage all sorts of people through sports or music.rr165892 said:Hey G.Im not rascist,nor am I afraid of people with color.but you and I both know we wouldn't walk down Tamarind ave here in the 561 at anytime of the evening.What does that say?
When I first came down to Florida in 2006 I was told by my Palm Beach island client whatever you do don't get caught or go to Riveria Beach after dark. I remember wondering what kind of place was that.....I found out in time.
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Palm Beach County is an interesting cross section of the melting pot. I moved from Palm Beach Gardens last year. The division of wealth and opportunity in PBG compared to Tamarind Ave. is staggering.
I remember being spit on (literally) by a black girl who was hanging out in front of a store while in West Palm. She told me that white people don't belong in her neighborhood.
Since we moved to Ormond Beach, the black families on my street are the only ones who talk to us. Go figure.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
Dude,I grew up in Gardens,Went to Gardens HS and spent most my life in Jupiter and the north end.It really is night and day between the "upscale and affluent 95% white(Tiger ,Williams Sisters and MJ dont count)areas of the north end and the desperation,crime and blight of Rivera Beach and Inner city West Palm?We still have multiple murders every single night in those areas.People from those areas count for over 70% of all violent crime in the county.
G,I was a football coach for a few years.I also have no problem talking and schmoozing in lower income areas.I just know it dosent matter.People there are angry and frustrated.Im a target no matter how nice I am.0 -
I think there is some confusion here about g asking if there is fear of black people as opposed to a white person feeling fear when going into a non-white neighborhood. For example, I do not have a fear of non-whites but when visiting my cousin in Brooklyn back in the mid to late 80's we were taking the subway to go visit the Cloisters and cousin M. got us off at the wrong stop and we found ourselves in the not-yet gentrified Harlem district. Back then, that was just not a good place for a white guy to show his face so, yeah, I was a bit nervous. M. said, "Because I'm half Armenian and have darker skin and curly black hair I'm probably less of a target but as long as you just keep your cool and be aware of what is going on all around you but don't look like you're looking all around you you'll be fine. So I got to see a little of Harlem and it was cool.
Anyway, hopefully you get the poiint about the difference between the two subjects."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I think any reasonable person has some fear going into any neighborhood where there is a lot of crime and violence... Surely people aren't saying they won't go into these areas just because they are full of black people???Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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I get the difference, B. Spoke to both points initially made.0
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And yeah, nope! I don't think that's been the gist of the comments, unless I've misread...?PJ_Soul said:I think any reasonable person has some fear going into any neighborhood where there is a lot of crime and violence... Surely people aren't saying they won't go into these areas just ease they are full of black people???
Common sense, not color sense?0 -
Your cousin's subway error impresses me.brianlux said:I think there is some confusion here about g asking if there is fear of black people as opposed to a white person feeling fear when going into a non-white neighborhood. For example, I do not have a fear of non-whites but when visiting my cousin in Brooklyn back in the mid to late 80's we were taking the subway to go visit the Cloisters and cousin M. got us off at the wrong stop and we found ourselves in the not-yet gentrified Harlem district. Back then, that was just not a good place for a white guy to show his face so, yeah, I was a bit nervous. M. said, "Because I'm half Armenian and have darker skin and curly black hair I'm probably less of a target but as long as you just keep your cool and be aware of what is going on all around you but don't look like you're looking all around you you'll be fine. So I got to see a little of Harlem and it was cool.
Anyway, hopefully you get the poiint about the difference between the two subjects.
I went to college in Harlem for like a year and a half 2012-2014. The school had shuttle buses to two of the train stations. Theoretically, if you were leaving late at night you could ask security for an escort to the subway. The park behind the school had a bunch of crackheads chillin during the day. The little park next to the subway station was pretty much a target - every couple weeks I'd get the alert that someone got robbed or assaulted there on their way home from the library. The few times I was there passed 10pm I had no problem, I did get yelled at by some crazy dude on 145th once, but it was like 2pm and honestly, who hasn't? I was running late tho so I didn't have time to care. I don't come from a bad neighborhood but I ended up spending a lot of time in "black" neighborhoods and "bad" areas and the pjs as a kid. Never had a problem. The only time some rando tried to force drugs down my throat was actually in a middle class white housing. Ironically enough. Point is I'm not uncomfortable in shitty neighborhoods or around people of color. I will say, that no matter what time of day it is or what neighborhood I'm walking through, if I'm walking by myself and theres a group (as in more than 2-3) of male humans walking towards me, my ass is crossing the street. It ain't cuz I'm afraid of males - it's cuz I'm a fan of self preservation. This basic fact does not change if they are white, black, yellow, or one eyed one horned giant purple people eaters. I mean now that I really think about it I'd probably just plow through a group of hipsters. Cuz fuck those guys.NYC 06/24/08-Auckland 11/27/09-Chch 11/29/09-Newark 05/18/10-Atlanta 09/22/12-Chicago 07/19/13-Brooklyn 10/18/13 & 10/19/13-Hartford 10/25/13-Baltimore 10/27/13-Auckland 1/17/14-GC 1/19/14-Melbourne 1/24/14-Sydney 1/26/14-Amsterdam 6/16/14 & 6/17/14-Milan 6/20/14-Berlin 6/26/14-Leeds 7/8/14-Milton Keynes 7/11/14-St. Louis 10/3/14-NYC 9/26/15
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When I was in Chicago... a coaching colleague and myself rented a car and drove to the United Center. We parked- I think- North West of the venue and walked (about a half mile).
There was a school with what seemed to be 20 foot chain link fences around it and a park that had signage saying 'Drug Offences Carry Twice the Penalty". There was also a y-shaped, red brick residence that featured boarded up windows as well as windows decorated with flower pots.
We experienced something in this area (south west of where we parked- away from the economic sector and large towers) that was scary. I don't wish to get into the details because the story is long and best told over beer, but suffice to say... it was out of my comfort zone and an experience I don't wish to repeat.
Can someone from the area tell me which area we found ourselves in based on my crude description?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I remember my good old rap days when listening to Public Enemy/NWA.
I was in the LA area for a holiday at that time (Disney).
I hopped on a bus and asked how to get to Compton.
I arrived and walked around for an hour or so.
Still to this day I never once thought that I was in a "Black" area.
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This must have been during the day time. I've been there also during the day. Went to Crenshaw and South Central where Boyz n the hood was filmed. Bullet proof glass at the local taco shop, all the stores.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I remember my good old rap days when listening to Public Enemy/NWA.
I was in the LA area for a holiday at that time (Disney).
I hopped on a bus and asked how to get to Compton.
I arrived and walked around for an hour or so.
Still to this day I never once thought that I was in a "Black" area.
All quiet during the day. Try that same area at night. See the helicopters in the sky. We used to watch it a zip code away and could hear the gunshots.
It's always different at night.
You can walk around in Palmdale/Lancaster during the day too but at night it's different…
Far Rockaway/Queens the same thing.
Places are always different at night.
Places I've been or lived. A different world sometimes...0 -
Great story! And re. bolded text, wize thinking, Inden! Stay safe!ldent42 said:
Your cousin's subway error impresses me.
I went to college in Harlem for like a year and a half 2012-2014. The school had shuttle buses to two of the train stations. Theoretically, if you were leaving late at night you could ask security for an escort to the subway. The park behind the school had a bunch of crackheads chillin during the day. The little park next to the subway station was pretty much a target - every couple weeks I'd get the alert that someone got robbed or assaulted there on their way home from the library. The few times I was there passed 10pm I had no problem, I did get yelled at by some crazy dude on 145th once, but it was like 2pm and honestly, who hasn't? I was running late tho so I didn't have time to care. I don't come from a bad neighborhood but I ended up spending a lot of time in "black" neighborhoods and "bad" areas and the pjs as a kid. Never had a problem. The only time some rando tried to force drugs down my throat was actually in a middle class white housing. Ironically enough. Point is I'm not uncomfortable in shitty neighborhoods or around people of color. I will say, that no matter what time of day it is or what neighborhood I'm walking through, if I'm walking by myself and theres a group (as in more than 2-3) of male humans walking towards me, my ass is crossing the street. It ain't cuz I'm afraid of males - it's cuz I'm a fan of self preservation. This basic fact does not change if they are white, black, yellow, or one eyed one horned giant purple people eaters. I mean now that I really think about it I'd probably just plow through a group of hipsters. Cuz fuck those guys.
Post edited by brianlux on"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Now I'm not suggesting just anybody should do this, but I think a lot can be gained by a certain kind of person exploring dangerous places or seemingly dangerous places. Here are a couple examples:
From my own experience, one that was a bit haphazard and unplanned. I was in Cabo San Lucas in 1989- my first ex footed the bill and so hey, why not? I had a few margaritas in an American Baja hipster bar (not my choice, the simple cantina or the thatched cerveceria would have been more my speed). Anyway, there must be something juju in that tequila down there because I just kind of floated out of that place on a bummer knowing that hanging with the ex was a really down idea. So I went for a walk and walked long and deep into the poor side of town and it was my only real experience in a real place with real people down there. It felt good to just walk around in that poor neighborhood. Simple, unpretentious, and very basic. The rest of Cabo was condos, white money bars, touristas and self-indulgent hipsters. My ex finally found me after driving around awhile looking for me and chewed me out big time telling me I could get hurt in that neighborhood! But no, it was cool. It was real. Fuck it.
Now someone who really does this shit for real is Henry Rollins. Some of his stories from his Dull Roar/Preferred Blur/Mad Dash/Grim Detail quartet tell of Mr. Rollins walking into some very, very poor neighborhoods in some very, very poor third world countries. What he offers in those stories are glimpses into another reality. He's building those first strands of a bridge and its good.
Being safe is smartest. Being open is good. Being afraid without real reason is a waste of time.
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Had the fortunate experience of being asked to manage retail store at MLK and Belfort in Houston. Many don't go to this area. Predominantly black with no whites. None. Worked this location for two years. Met the nicest hard working people. Realized there are good and bad people everywhere. sure as hell respect minorities and their plight and realize how chicken shit and insecure many whites are. But we are all herd animals and stick to our packs. Go Trump!
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Cabrini Green?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:When I was in Chicago... a coaching colleague and myself rented a car and drove to the United Center. We parked- I think- North West of the venue and walked (about a half mile).
There was a school with what seemed to be 20 foot chain link fences around it and a park that had signage saying 'Drug Offences Carry Twice the Penalty". There was also a y-shaped, red brick residence that featured boarded up windows as well as windows decorated with flower pots.
We experienced something in this area (south west of where we parked- away from the economic sector and large towers) that was scary. I don't wish to get into the details because the story is long and best told over beer, but suffice to say... it was out of my comfort zone and an experience I don't wish to repeat.
Can someone from the area tell me which area we found ourselves in based on my crude description?0
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