Canadian Politics Redux

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  • PJ_Soul said:

    Spread them amongst all the bigger cities losted there and no one old even know the dfference. 25,000 people is not very many people for Canada, which is huge.

    Why the need to spread them out?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680

    PJ_Soul said:

    Spread them amongst all the bigger cities listed there and no one woud even know the dfference. 25,000 people is not very many people for Canada, which is huge.

    Why the need to spread them out?
    So as not to suddenly inundate schools, the job market, and the housing market in one place, obviously.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited October 2015
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Spread them amongst all the bigger cities listed there and no one woud even know the dfference. 25,000 people is not very many people for Canada, which is huge.

    Why the need to spread them out?
    So as not to suddenly inundate schools, the job market, and the housing market in one place, obviously.
    But they are coming to Vancouver.
    So I guess this won't happen then.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited October 2015

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Spread them amongst all the bigger cities listed there and no one woud even know the dfference. 25,000 people is not very many people for Canada, which is huge.

    Why the need to spread them out?
    So as not to suddenly inundate schools, the job market, and the housing market in one place, obviously.
    But they are coming to Vancouver.
    So I guess this won't happen then.
    They said BC, which is huge and has 4.5 million people, and that metro Vancouver is preparing, and metro Van has 2.5 million people and is made up of several cities and municipalities. No prob handling 25,000 in terms entire province of BC. It would make more sense to spread it out a bit to encourage integration rather than all settling in the same area of the province, but whatever, I'd be fine either way.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
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    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Spread them amongst all the bigger cities listed there and no one woud even know the dfference. 25,000 people is not very many people for Canada, which is huge.

    Why the need to spread them out?
    So as not to suddenly inundate schools, the job market, and the housing market in one place, obviously.
    But they are coming to Vancouver.
    So I guess this won't happen then.
    They said BC, which is huge and has 4.5 million people, and that metro Vancouver is preparing, and metro Van has 2.5 million people and is made up of several cities and municipalities. No prob handling 25,000 in terms entire province of BC. It would make more sense to spread it out a bit to encourage integration rather than all settling in the same area of the province, but whatever, I'd be fine either way.
    PJSoul, you say "metro Vancouver is preparing"; what's been the coverage on this? I'm out of the country so haven't seen any specific news on it.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Spread them amongst all the bigger cities listed there and no one woud even know the dfference. 25,000 people is not very many people for Canada, which is huge.

    Why the need to spread them out?
    So as not to suddenly inundate schools, the job market, and the housing market in one place, obviously.
    But they are coming to Vancouver.
    So I guess this won't happen then.
    They said BC, which is huge and has 4.5 million people, and that metro Vancouver is preparing, and metro Van has 2.5 million people and is made up of several cities and municipalities. No prob handling 25,000 in terms entire province of BC. It would make more sense to spread it out a bit to encourage integration rather than all settling in the same area of the province, but whatever, I'd be fine either way.
    PJSoul, you say "metro Vancouver is preparing"; what's been the coverage on this? I'm out of the country so haven't seen any specific news on it.
    I'm referring to the vancouver sun article that PJFan posted some posts ago. :)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    Has pot been legalized yet? I can't wait to grow some plants in the garden rite next to my conservative cop neighbor.
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    TalonTedd said:

    Has pot been legalized yet? I can't wait to grow some plants in the garden rite next to my conservative cop neighbor.

    Haha
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    Thanks dignin. In all seriousness though, its about time we got ourselves a progressive and compassionate leader. This country, indeed the world at large, is governed by some old money dogma and outdated delusional belief structures, that need to be laid to rest for good and all. Pot, is mind, body and soul medicine. It is of the earth and so are we. It expands the mind and relaxes the nerves and I can't wait to cultivate this miraculous plant free from the bullshit laws of powers that were.
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    It's going to take a while I guess... I support legalization obviously, namely fo the economy impact, which will be massive. I used to also support it because it would make it ease to get without having to find street dealers, but since that problem is already taken care of in Vancouver, that part of my support has become moot, which leads to me to worry about the prices. Right now I can go into a store and buy it for normal prices. $10 a gram, $35 for an 1/8, $50 for a gram of budder, etc. But once it's legalized I assume those prices will skyrocket like they did in Washington. I've been told an 1/8 now runs from $50 - $80 there now!!! That is insane. So yeah, a lot of reasons to support legalization... but it is going to kill one of the most important aspects of the substance, which is affordability. So yeah, I might consider growing my own... though I've heard that is much easier said than done if you want to grow good quality, so i don't know about that.
    Which brings us to a problematic point.... Once weed becomes way more expensive and many people can't afford it or don't think it's worth the price, will a lot of people turn to other still-illegal and affordable drugs as a replacement for recreational use? I think yes. I bet there will be a big boom in stuff like shrooms, E, maybe acid, etc.... Then what?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:

    It's going to take a while I guess... I support legalization obviously, namely fo the economy impact, which will be massive. I used to also support it because it would make it ease to get without having to find street dealers, but since that problem is already taken care of in Vancouver, that part of my support has become moot, which leads to me to worry about the prices. Right now I can go into a store and buy it for normal prices. $10 a gram, $35 for an 1/8, $50 for a gram of budder, etc. But once it's legalized I assume those prices will skyrocket like they did in Washington. I've been told an 1/8 now runs from $50 - $80 there now!!! That is insane. So yeah, a lot of reasons to support legalization... but it is going to kill one of the most important aspects of the substance, which is affordability. So yeah, I might consider growing my own... though I've heard that is much easier said than done if you want to grow good quality, so i don't know about that.
    Which brings us to a problematic point.... Once weed becomes way more expensive and many people can't afford it or don't think it's worth the price, will a lot of people turn to other still-illegal and affordable drugs as a replacement for recreational use? I think yes. I bet there will be a big boom in stuff like shrooms, E, maybe acid, etc.... Then what?

    In Colorado it has come down to less than 150$ for an ounce of primo.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    Really? That's good news! You said it came down. How high did it get?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:

    Really? That's good news! You said it came down. How high did it get?

    I don't know if it went up for a bit first, or just went down, I only know that it is pretty Damn cheap now.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    PJ_Soul said:

    It's going to take a while I guess... I support legalization obviously, namely fo the economy impact, which will be massive. I used to also support it because it would make it ease to get without having to find street dealers, but since that problem is already taken care of in Vancouver, that part of my support has become moot, which leads to me to worry about the prices. Right now I can go into a store and buy it for normal prices. $10 a gram, $35 for an 1/8, $50 for a gram of budder, etc. But once it's legalized I assume those prices will skyrocket like they did in Washington. I've been told an 1/8 now runs from $50 - $80 there now!!! That is insane. So yeah, a lot of reasons to support legalization... but it is going to kill one of the most important aspects of the substance, which is affordability. So yeah, I might consider growing my own... though I've heard that is much easier said than done if you want to grow good quality, so i don't know about that.
    Which brings us to a problematic point.... Once weed becomes way more expensive and many people can't afford it or don't think it's worth the price, will a lot of people turn to other still-illegal and affordable drugs as a replacement for recreational use? I think yes. I bet there will be a big boom in stuff like shrooms, E, maybe acid, etc.... Then what?

    I really doubt anyone is going to go take a hallucinogen that lasts 8 hours and gets you 50x as fucked up if they can't afford weed. They'd just go back to the black market.
    And....growing your own isn't that hard (and quite rewarding, from what I've heard :wink: )....just a matter of either making an investment of a lot of time and a little money (DIY garden), or a little time and more money (closet grow kit/tent/box/whatever)....there is a ton of info out there to show how it's done. And in the long run, the savings would be significant.

    This article is pretty much on point:
    http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2015/10/20/seven-key-things-trudeaus-legalization-must-include/
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited October 2015

    PJ_Soul said:

    It's going to take a while I guess... I support legalization obviously, namely fo the economy impact, which will be massive. I used to also support it because it would make it ease to get without having to find street dealers, but since that problem is already taken care of in Vancouver, that part of my support has become moot, which leads to me to worry about the prices. Right now I can go into a store and buy it for normal prices. $10 a gram, $35 for an 1/8, $50 for a gram of budder, etc. But once it's legalized I assume those prices will skyrocket like they did in Washington. I've been told an 1/8 now runs from $50 - $80 there now!!! That is insane. So yeah, a lot of reasons to support legalization... but it is going to kill one of the most important aspects of the substance, which is affordability. So yeah, I might consider growing my own... though I've heard that is much easier said than done if you want to grow good quality, so i don't know about that.
    Which brings us to a problematic point.... Once weed becomes way more expensive and many people can't afford it or don't think it's worth the price, will a lot of people turn to other still-illegal and affordable drugs as a replacement for recreational use? I think yes. I bet there will be a big boom in stuff like shrooms, E, maybe acid, etc.... Then what?

    I really doubt anyone is going to go take a hallucinogen that lasts 8 hours and gets you 50x as fucked up if they can't afford weed. They'd just go back to the black market.
    And....growing your own isn't that hard (and quite rewarding, from what I've heard :wink: )....just a matter of either making an investment of a lot of time and a little money (DIY garden), or a little time and more money (closet grow kit/tent/box/whatever)....there is a ton of info out there to show how it's done. And in the long run, the savings would be significant.

    This article is pretty much on point:
    http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2015/10/20/seven-key-things-trudeaus-legalization-must-include/
    Yeah, there are plenty of options and info about growing.... but doing that in a one bedroom apartment isn't necessarily a good option in any case. If I can just grow a plant in the corner out on my balcony, great. If I have to have a setup indoors, absolutely not.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    TalonTedd said:

    Has pot been legalized yet? I can't wait to grow some plants in the garden rite next to my conservative cop neighbor.

    :lol:
    A close friend of mine and her old man have been living in a similar situation for years....except the cop is actually pretty cool about it all; not a con drug warrior douche...CBC made a doc partially about that situation:
    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/cannabiz-secret-economy-marijuana/
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It's going to take a while I guess... I support legalization obviously, namely fo the economy impact, which will be massive. I used to also support it because it would make it ease to get without having to find street dealers, but since that problem is already taken care of in Vancouver, that part of my support has become moot, which leads to me to worry about the prices. Right now I can go into a store and buy it for normal prices. $10 a gram, $35 for an 1/8, $50 for a gram of budder, etc. But once it's legalized I assume those prices will skyrocket like they did in Washington. I've been told an 1/8 now runs from $50 - $80 there now!!! That is insane. So yeah, a lot of reasons to support legalization... but it is going to kill one of the most important aspects of the substance, which is affordability. So yeah, I might consider growing my own... though I've heard that is much easier said than done if you want to grow good quality, so i don't know about that.
    Which brings us to a problematic point.... Once weed becomes way more expensive and many people can't afford it or don't think it's worth the price, will a lot of people turn to other still-illegal and affordable drugs as a replacement for recreational use? I think yes. I bet there will be a big boom in stuff like shrooms, E, maybe acid, etc.... Then what?

    I really doubt anyone is going to go take a hallucinogen that lasts 8 hours and gets you 50x as fucked up if they can't afford weed. They'd just go back to the black market.
    And....growing your own isn't that hard (and quite rewarding, from what I've heard :wink: )....just a matter of either making an investment of a lot of time and a little money (DIY garden), or a little time and more money (closet grow kit/tent/box/whatever)....there is a ton of info out there to show how it's done. And in the long run, the savings would be significant.

    This article is pretty much on point:
    http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2015/10/20/seven-key-things-trudeaus-legalization-must-include/
    Yeah, there are plenty of options and info about growing.... but doing that in a one bedroom apartment isn't necessarily a good option in any case. If I can just grow it out on my balcony, great. If I have to have a setup indoors, absolutely not.
    Personally, I'd make space for a 3' x 3' x 5' grow box if it meant a steady, free (once costs are recouped) supply. The fridge can go, or my clothes could hang on a rack outside the closet :lol: Either way, I hope there comes a time we can post our own pics on AET, comparing setups, mediums, strains, etc. Crazy to imagine, and likely to be reality soon enough. Just hope they don't fuck it up in the way they legislate it.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    TalonTedd said:

    Thanks dignin. In all seriousness though, its about time we got ourselves a progressive and compassionate leader. This country, indeed the world at large, is governed by some old money dogma and outdated delusional belief structures, that need to be laid to rest for good and all. Pot, is mind, body and soul medicine. It is of the earth and so are we. It expands the mind and relaxes the nerves and I can't wait to cultivate this miraculous plant free from the bullshit laws of powers that were.

    Not arguing about the merits of legalisation of pot, but the idea that something is positive because it is "of the earth" is just plain wrong headed. There are plenty of dangerous things that are of the earth, some of them routinely fatal.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • TalonTedd said:

    Thanks dignin. In all seriousness though, its about time we got ourselves a progressive and compassionate leader. This country, indeed the world at large, is governed by some old money dogma and outdated delusional belief structures, that need to be laid to rest for good and all. Pot, is mind, body and soul medicine. It is of the earth and so are we. It expands the mind and relaxes the nerves and I can't wait to cultivate this miraculous plant free from the bullshit laws of powers that were.

    Not arguing about the merits of legalisation of pot, but the idea that something is positive because it is "of the earth" is just plain wrong headed. There are plenty of dangerous things that are of the earth, some of them routinely fatal.
    And this is why turdos pothead ideas are now questioned.
    It is a clusterfuck to say I will legalize pot when running for pm but when sober the realization of your pot headedness hits you.
    Fucking potheads.