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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    ^^^
    It is clear you don't like Canada having ties to the monarchy.
    Stephen Harper does though - hence designating the "Royal" once again before Canadian Forces
    What is waffle and trudeaus stance on the monarchy?

    Oh dear. There's no-one named "waffle" running in this election. I think you may be confused. Perhaps it was the beating you took last night? You should get that looked into.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • ^^^
    It is clear you don't like Canada having ties to the monarchy.
    Stephen Harper does though - hence designating the "Royal" once again before Canadian Forces
    What is waffle and trudeaus stance on the monarchy?

    Oh dear. There's no-one named "waffle" running in this election. I think you may be confused. Perhaps it was the beating you took last night? You should get that looked into.
    mulcair isn't named a waffle
    he is one
    This election is a formality.


  • PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
  • ^^^
    It is clear you don't like Canada having ties to the monarchy.
    Stephen Harper does though - hence designating the "Royal" once again before Canadian Forces
    What is waffle and trudeaus stance on the monarchy?

    Waffle lol. That's a great nickname
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-niqab-neil-macdonald-1.3246179


    "It's not am I comfortable or not" with women covering their faces, he said. "Makes no difference at all. It's a question of rights and it will be for the court to decide."
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Hard to argue with Neil Macdonalds logic. Unless, of course, you have a problem with our charter of rights and freedom.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I have my doubts that Trudeau would have a clue what he's doing
    All Mulcair does is moan about everyone else. I have no idea what his platform is. I just know what it isn't.
    Harper is a controlling psychopath who needs to leave office.

    I nominate Gord Downie.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I went back and re-read. All that I found was that her head of state-ness being symbolic pisses you off. But why?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited September 2015

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

    The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680

    I went back and re-read. All that I found was that her head of state-ness being symbolic pisses you off. But why?

    Because why in the fuck should I or any Canadian be a servant to the Queen of England, symbolically or otherwise??
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

    The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.
    I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

    The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.
    I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

    I was responding to the first paragraph of your previous post.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    BTW, this is the oath that new Canadians have to swear, and that all Canadians are supposedly beholden to:

    "I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen."

    Ummmmmm NOPE.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

    The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.
    I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

    I was responding to the first paragraph of your previous post.
    fair enough. but why no queen as HOS?

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

    The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.
    I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

    I was responding to the first paragraph of your previous post.
    fair enough. but why no queen as HOS?

    Answered. :)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJ_Soul said:



    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

    I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

    I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

    I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
    Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
    why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

    it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

    for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

    I guess you didn't read what I said either.
    yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

    The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.
    I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

    I was responding to the first paragraph of your previous post.
    fair enough. but why no queen as HOS?

    Answered. :)
    well don't all countries have something similar? if you weren't beholden to the Queen, you'd be to Stephen Harper. :anguished:

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




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