9 Dead in Charleston, South Carolina Church Shooting and Hate Crime

brianlux said:

Earlier, I made comments that seem to defend the Black Panthers. Doing a little checking this morning, I find we may be talking about two different groups: the original sixties west coast BP's and the New Black Panther Movement. Here's a description from the Southern Poverty Law Center's web site (SPL tracks ALL hate groups and works toward the goal of ending hatred):

"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers. Founded in Dallas, the group today is especially active on the East Coast, from Boston to Jacksonville, Fla. The group portrays itself as a militant, modern-day expression of the black power movement (it frequently engages in armed protests of alleged police brutality and the like), but principals of the original Black Panther Party of the 1960s and 1970s— a militant, but non-racist, left-wing organization — have rejected the new Panthers as a "black racist hate group" and contested their hijacking of the Panther name and symbol."

g under p said:

brianlux said:

Earlier, I made comments that seem to defend the Black Panthers. Doing a little checking this morning, I find we may be talking about two different groups: the original sixties west coast BP's and the New Black Panther Movement. Here's a description from the Southern Poverty Law Center's web site (SPL tracks ALL hate groups and works toward the goal of ending hatred):

"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers. Founded in Dallas, the group today is especially active on the East Coast, from Boston to Jacksonville, Fla. The group portrays itself as a militant, modern-day expression of the black power movement (it frequently engages in armed protests of alleged police brutality and the like), but principals of the original Black Panther Party of the 1960s and 1970s— a militant, but non-racist, left-wing organization — have rejected the new Panthers as a "black racist hate group" and contested their hijacking of the Panther name and symbol."

That is correct Brian, the NBPP did hijack the original here's an image of their flag and you may see this....



Peace

usamamasan1 said:

State Rep. Bill Chumley, a Republican who represents Spartanburg, told CNN on Tuesday that "We need to be focusing on the nine families that are left and see that this doesn't happen again. These people sat in there and waited their turn to be shot. That's sad that somebody in there with the means of self-defense could have stopped this."

hedonist said:

usamamasan1 said:

State Rep. Bill Chumley, a Republican who represents Spartanburg, told CNN on Tuesday that "We need to be focusing on the nine families that are left and see that this doesn't happen again. These people sat in there and waited their turn to be shot. That's sad that somebody in there with the means of self-defense could have stopped this."

"Waited their turn"?

Also, even if a law had been in place allowing people to legally carry, doesn't mean they would have chosen to do so. It's a moot point, no?

The flag is its own issue and for me, separate from the horror that occurred last week. That kid's fuck-upped-ness had little if anything to do with any flag but moreso with hate and ignorance.

In public discussions, black children often morph into potentially menacing adults after they’ve been victimized, while white mass shooters are portrayed as children, even if they’re well into their 20s. Media reports and police statements repeatedly referred to Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old boy shot by police in Cleveland while playing with a toy gun last year, as a “young man.” But James Holmes, who was 25 when he shot dozens at an Aurora, Colo., movie theater, was frequently defined by his youth in media profiles, which described him as “a normal kid,” a “typical American kid” and “a smart kid.”


Roof is getting the same treatment. In an interview with CNN on Thursday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) insisted that the 21-year-old is just “one of these whacked-out kids.” Since Roof’s arrest on nine counts of murder, the Wall Street Journal and other major news outlets have called him “a loner” in headlines.