The plague of neighborhood solicitors and other neighborhood observations.

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  • deadendp said:

    RKCNDY said:

    I for one can't and don't tolerate people knocking on my door to sell me their religion - the price is outrageous.

    I do though remember my parents making me go door to door selling chocolate santas, almonds, bars etc to raise money for my upcoming field trips in school.

    Most of my elementary and high school trips were free for me (parents did not pay)
    It was hard work getting doors slammed in my face but the next door alleviated my frustration on those winter nights after being out for 4 hours or more hoping someone would buy that last box of almonds then I would be able to go on that field trip like everyone else.

    It taught me the value of a dollar and that it does not grow on trees. Many, many hours were spent canvassing neighbourhoods peddling my wares in the name of honest work.

    Fast forward 20yrs later I make my own fundraise door to door and watching them do it as I follow behind them makes me smile on the inside. All I say is "if you want to go on that trip all you have to do is sell x amount of chocolates" If they come up short a few bucks of course I give it them but the life skills learned are unfathomable - counting change, personal interaction, rejection, kindness, math, inventory tracking, processing orders, patience, cold, hot and the list goes on. I have been told that I repeat my self too often sometimes, maybe that comes from having to say "Hello my name is ------- would you like to purchase a box of chocolate almonds to support me in my goal to attend a field trip to -------", over a thousand times yearly for 9 yrs.

    So it pisses me off when I see parents have their kids stand outside of stores asking for change to fundraise - get your kids out and work for it.

    I always purchase from "kids" who show up peddling chocolates, cookie dough etc. It takes balls for a person that age to knock on a strangers door and initiate a conversation.

    Girl scouts are no longer allowed to go door to door due to safety concerns-at least in my area. So they are now parked out at the grocery and hardware stores. I always buy the cookies because I used to be a GS going door to door and getting told 'no' because my neighborhood was saturated with Girl Scouts.

    Had to sell those damned magazines and tapes door to door to for school. Fuck I hated that!

    Oh...is it ironic that the letter the JW sent was under the name 'K Gibler' and all I could think of was 'Kimmie Giblets? Like from that Bob saget sitcom?'
    I understand that it teaches her the value of rejection, but I also don't want the neighbors to dread her visiting their doorstep.
    Venture out to other neighbourhoods to avoid situations that make you feel that way. Kids don't have adult feelings and will appreciate discovering more than a square block radius growing up.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    imalive said:

    RKCNDY said:

    imalive said:

    in the name of thread integrity....

    years ago, I rented a house with two other guys and a girl....it was degenerate-palooza most of the time, but that's not the point....the point is, we had one roommate we nicknamed "slug", because he was one....never had any money, always mooching beer, food, weed, etc.

    one day when only slug was at home, a girl came to the door selling magazines. slug, of course, didn't have any money for magazines but he did make a deposit....if you catch my drift.

    so he left a slug trail...
    Funny and gross.
    need something as gross? when slug moved out, we found boogers all over the wall next to his mattress :tired_face:

    Back to neighbor solicitors!

    Ok sorry. Last off topic post. Too good not to share.
    When I was a teenager we let this quiet kid named C.J. stay in our flop house. He slept on a futon in a spare room. When he moved out there was a hole in the futon. My roommate for some reason stuck his finger in the hole to find a nice mixture of lotion and old "slug juice". After that, C.J. became known as Couch Jammer. Sometimes I wonder if he's still out there, forcing himself on unsuspecting furniture.
    Talk about funny and gross.

    If we're talking solicitors, I'd ask that those who approach me in front of the local supermarkets realize that most of us who are there during the lunch hour...are on our lunch hour. Give me literature I can peruse later, but don't cuss me out because I'm not sure your D.A.R.E. campaign is actually legit.

    Or that I don't want to blindly sign a petition while being rushed through the details of it.

    (that felt good :relieved:)
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    RKCNDY said:

    I for one can't and don't tolerate people knocking on my door to sell me their religion - the price is outrageous.

    I do though remember my parents making me go door to door selling chocolate santas, almonds, bars etc to raise money for my upcoming field trips in school.

    Most of my elementary and high school trips were free for me (parents did not pay)
    It was hard work getting doors slammed in my face but the next door alleviated my frustration on those winter nights after being out for 4 hours or more hoping someone would buy that last box of almonds then I would be able to go on that field trip like everyone else.

    It taught me the value of a dollar and that it does not grow on trees. Many, many hours were spent canvassing neighbourhoods peddling my wares in the name of honest work.

    Fast forward 20yrs later I make my own fundraise door to door and watching them do it as I follow behind them makes me smile on the inside. All I say is "if you want to go on that trip all you have to do is sell x amount of chocolates" If they come up short a few bucks of course I give it them but the life skills learned are unfathomable - counting change, personal interaction, rejection, kindness, math, inventory tracking, processing orders, patience, cold, hot and the list goes on. I have been told that I repeat my self too often sometimes, maybe that comes from having to say "Hello my name is ------- would you like to purchase a box of chocolate almonds to support me in my goal to attend a field trip to -------", over a thousand times yearly for 9 yrs.

    So it pisses me off when I see parents have their kids stand outside of stores asking for change to fundraise - get your kids out and work for it.

    I always purchase from "kids" who show up peddling chocolates, cookie dough etc. It takes balls for a person that age to knock on a strangers door and initiate a conversation.



    Girl scouts are no longer allowed to go door to door due to safety concerns-at least in my area. So they are now parked out at the grocery and hardware stores. I always buy the cookies because I used to be a GS going door to door and getting told 'no' because my neighborhood was saturated with Girl Scouts.

    Had to sell those damned magazines and tapes door to door to for school. Fuck I hated that!

    Oh...is it ironic that the letter the JW sent was under the name 'K Gibler' and all I could think of was 'Kimmie Giblets? Like from that Bob saget sitcom?'
    Not being allowed to go door to door because of "safety concerns" is completely ridiculous (I'm not calling you ridiculous RKCNDY, just this policy), especially when those kids would have a parent, older sibling or friend with them. Just part of the relentless drive to convince us that kids are always in danger and need to be constantly monitored and restricted.

    My daughter was in Girl Guides from age 5 (Sparks) through age 13 (Pathfinders). She got a lot of value from the program and one of the things that guiding requires the girls to do is sell 2 cases of cookies twice a year (spring and fall). They are encouraged to go door to door in an appropriate fashion (with a parent, or for the older ones in a group). We ranged over a wide area in the years she sold cookies and she learned a lot about talking to strangers, presenting information clearly, dealing with money, and following through on a job, just like PJFan said. Even when she was 5 she had to do the talking and I stayed back. Sure, lots of people didn't buy, but we never encountered a single rude person. We also always respected the "no soliciting" signs. Kids and cookies are a great combination, though I agree that adults pushing religion are a different kettle of fish.
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  • On topic. I don't trust anyone who knocks on my door selling wares or ideas. When I was young there was more than one of my fellow little leaguers who made fake raffle tickets and threw on their two year old uniforms to peddle them. Little hustlers. That's all I can ever think of when I see door to door people.

    Anybody who lives outside of town ever have a "meat guy" show up with a freezer on the back of a pickup truck? If you buy all the steak, you get the freezer free!
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    On topic. I don't trust anyone who knocks on my door selling wares or ideas. When I was young there was more than one of my fellow little leaguers who made fake raffle tickets and threw on their two year old uniforms to peddle them. Little hustlers. That's all I can ever think of when I see door to door people.

    Anybody who lives outside of town ever have a "meat guy" show up with a freezer on the back of a pickup truck? If you buy all the steak, you get the freezer free!

    That sounds like a degenerate-a-palooza tailgate to me.
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  • Wobbie
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    On topic. I don't trust anyone who knocks on my door selling wares or ideas. When I was young there was more than one of my fellow little leaguers who made fake raffle tickets and threw on their two year old uniforms to peddle them. Little hustlers. That's all I can ever think of when I see door to door people.

    Anybody who lives outside of town ever have a "meat guy" show up with a freezer on the back of a pickup truck? If you buy all the steak, you get the freezer free!

    You're late to the party on "meat guy"....I already brought him up.....always has some phony reason why he has his extra steaks.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    edited April 2015
    Well I can cross this door to door campaign off the list yobraisevtravel
    Monies!! Damn! ( totally kidding!)

    I so remember having to go door to door selling weird crap for school. I am a terrible salesperson. Probably even more so than now, I was terrified of people I didn't know.. And they'd slam the door in my face, I'd cry. Get over it, go to the next house, cry.., and so on.. It took me forever to sell ONE thing!! Although one year we were selling these cool ceramic bells. They were Christmas Ornaments. And I of course couldn't find a sales buddy, so
    I ended up alone. I was also the ONLY kid that year to seek all 50 of my boxes!! All because i
    Made it into this hermit lady's yard to knock on her door, while her two 'vicious' Rotties licked my face! She answered the door frantic.. Saw the dogs, and her face turned to shock!! Then one of my fellow students opened the gate, and I saw why. Those dogs went from adorable pets to demonic forces!! The kid at the gate, ( Jimmy Swane) turned white as this screen!! And shut that gate really quickly!! Like REALLY quickly. That lady bought all 50 boxes of Ornaments !!! I sat and talked to her and played with her dogs for hours Til the other kids were ready and the parent chaperone picked us up. Only time I ever sold a thing going door to door as a kid.
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  • imalive said:

    On topic. I don't trust anyone who knocks on my door selling wares or ideas. When I was young there was more than one of my fellow little leaguers who made fake raffle tickets and threw on their two year old uniforms to peddle them. Little hustlers. That's all I can ever think of when I see door to door people.

    Anybody who lives outside of town ever have a "meat guy" show up with a freezer on the back of a pickup truck? If you buy all the steak, you get the freezer free!

    You're late to the party on "meat guy"....I already brought him up.....always has some phony reason why he has his extra steaks.
    Ahh yes. Didn't read the whole thread before posting. My bad. Didn't Ray Romano make a movie about being a meat guy?
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    A Day late, and a Chuck short hahahaha!!!
    Sorry, yeah.. I
    Did that...
    :giggle:
  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013



    Not being allowed to go door to door because of "safety concerns" is completely ridiculous (I'm not calling you ridiculous RKCNDY, just this policy), especially when those kids would have a parent, older sibling or friend with them. Just part of the relentless drive to convince us that kids are always in danger and need to be constantly monitored and restricted.

    My daughter was in Girl Guides from age 5 (Sparks) through age 13 (Pathfinders). She got a lot of value from the program and one of the things that guiding requires the girls to do is sell 2 cases of cookies twice a year (spring and fall). They are encouraged to go door to door in an appropriate fashion (with a parent, or for the older ones in a group). We ranged over a wide area in the years she sold cookies and she learned a lot about talking to strangers, presenting information clearly, dealing with money, and following through on a job, just like PJFan said. Even when she was 5 she had to do the talking and I stayed back. Sure, lots of people didn't buy, but we never encountered a single rude person. We also always respected the "no soliciting" signs. Kids and cookies are a great combination, though I agree that adults pushing religion are a different kettle of fish.

    I get it, it was hard going door to door. My parent would buy cookies from people at work then refuse to ask people to buy cookies for me at work, so I had to try harder.

    The 'safety' thing applies to all door to door sales, the city wants you to have a permit. Not exactly sure what that is supposed to accomplish, maybe if you don't show a permit, people can call the cops about a 'suspicious person'...

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  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    Oh, had a friend that sold the meat "hey we got a surplus". He was so desperate to make his quota he sold the biggest case he had for his cost-they can barter the price with you.

    They were alright steaks...for being frozen.
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    The meat thing is a story that goes to my brother. Someone bought the drive-by freezer steaks to celebrate my brother's birthday. Didn't tell him that's where they were from. He ended up so incredibly ill from them that they basically had to "reset" his digestive system starting with baby food. It was only after that the guy admitted where he bought them. Yuck.

    My husband encountered one of those guys at the end of our driveway last year. He really didn't want to leave. Wanted my husband to buy something. Um, no. :sick:
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  • OMGkatwoman
    OMGkatwoman Posts: 3,230
    deadendp said:

    The meat thing is a story that goes to my brother. Someone bought the drive-by freezer steaks to celebrate my brother's birthday. Didn't tell him that's where they were from. He ended up so incredibly ill from them that they basically had to "reset" his digestive system starting with baby food. It was only after that the guy admitted where he bought them. Yuck.

    My husband encountered one of those guys at the end of our driveway last year. He really didn't want to leave. Wanted my husband to buy something. Um, no. :sick:

    Yep, those "steaks" are so gross, my sister bought some one time and they had a weird mealy texture and tasted kinda gamey.
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Was away from this place for a few days and I come back and this thread has something like 80 new posts. I thought, man, how bad can neighborhood solicitors be! Should have known it was mostly degenerate whining. :tongue:

    I've never heard about meat trucks. I feel like I've missed out on something. Maybe they don't show up much in Texas cause steaks are already pretty cheap. Hell, you can just go out and shoot one of your steers if you want one that bad.
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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527

    Was away from this place for a few days and I come back and this thread has something like 80 new posts. I thought, man, how bad can neighborhood solicitors be! Should have known it was mostly degenerate whining. :tongue:

    I've never heard about meat trucks. I feel like I've missed out on something. Maybe they don't show up much in Texas cause steaks are already pretty cheap. Hell, you can just go out and shoot one of your steers if you want one that bad.

    Lol very very true!
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    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Welcome back by the way!
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Here's another neighborhood observation. No solicitors this time. I have a pain in the ass neighbor who claims that a chunk of my property is his. Now, I suppose that if I had hundreds of acres, this would be no big deal. My lot is 40' x 120'. Every spring, he questions me about the property line. Last year, Mark was out there with me.

    "So, I have a question to ask." I knew what it was.

    "Where is the property line?"

    "You are standing on it."

    "I mean, just WHERE is it at?"

    "You are standing on it."

    "Where precisely is it?"

    "Oh my God, Mike-- YOU ARE STANDING ON IT!"

    "But I don't see any property pins."

    "That's because your railroad ties are on top."

    He decides he's going to put up a fence. He did it next to his house, on the other neighbor's property, which he claims is his because he's convinced that Mr. K's garage is on HIS property. Never once has he had a survey.

    You know what? We did. I know where our property line is. Does he?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Let us know if you need a degenerate-a-occupation ala Bundy Ranch style.
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  • SD48277
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    deadendp said:

    Here's another neighborhood observation. No solicitors this time. I have a pain in the ass neighbor who claims that a chunk of my property is his. Now, I suppose that if I had hundreds of acres, this would be no big deal. My lot is 40' x 120'. Every spring, he questions me about the property line. Last year, Mark was out there with me.

    "So, I have a question to ask." I knew what it was.

    "Where is the property line?"

    "You are standing on it."

    "I mean, just WHERE is it at?"

    "You are standing on it."

    "Where precisely is it?"

    "Oh my God, Mike-- YOU ARE STANDING ON IT!"

    "But I don't see any property pins."

    "That's because your railroad ties are on top."

    He decides he's going to put up a fence. He did it next to his house, on the other neighbor's property, which he claims is his because he's convinced that Mr. K's garage is on HIS property. Never once has he had a survey.

    You know what? We did. I know where our property line is. Does he?

    It sounds as if he has his own version of Groundhog Day going on there.
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Oh, he is something special. He keeps asking me about the property line every year, in multiple toddler-like fashion, figuring that he's going to wear me out. Um, he's not. He keeps telling everyone that this three foot strip of land between my driveway and his flower bed is his. I had a retired city engineer and a current city engineer do the survey before we put our fence up. He knew that we had that done because we didn't want anyone to say we were on their property. What's funny is that this strip of land he insists is his is something that his mother-in-law brought up that he has never attempted to maintain anyhow. (She was the previous owner of the house and told me that the property line is exactly where the surveyors said it was.)

    He's just out there to bully us and even though I'm not the tallest or biggest chick out there, I'll take him. He used to be a cop, but when the department that he worked for combined with another, they did not choose to keep him on. It took him 4 years to get security work at a satellite ER. The police department didn't take him with them because he was well known to be "bad cop."

    He is just a prize that I can't even fully explain to you. I love his wife, though. She is truly a saint. Won't leave him, though she has tried. He threatened to take their daughter. Nice.
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