Police shooting in North Charleston

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    callen said:

    Haha like the sarcasm.

    See I still think the two should be mutually exclusive. Running and resisting should not be trigger points to death.

    So the guys action of running away took all threat to officer away ironically. So your point is mute in this case. Totally mute.

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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    edited April 2015
    A question I would like to see answered is would the cop have pulled this guy over with the busted tail light if he knew the driver was white? That would answer many of the racial questions being asked. Obviously, there's no way that will ever be answered honestly, IMO.

    I still haven't learned why they were almost 2 blocks away from the car when the shooting occured. I've heard unconfirmed reports that Scott had a warrant out on him and he took off.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Last-12-Exit said:

    A question I would like to see answered is would the cop have pulled this guy over with the busted tail light if he knew the driver was white? That would answer many of the racial questions being asked. Obviously, there's no way that will ever be answered honestly, IMO.

    I still haven't learned why they were almost 2 blocks away from the car when the shooting occured. I've heard unconfirmed reports that Scott had a warrant out on him and he took off.

    I read an article quoting one of his family members that yes, he was scared he'd go to jail for unpaid child support. but again, that is just another media outlet, possibly misquoting or misrepresenting facts. we won't know the facts for a while.

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  • FoxyRedLa
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    Last-12-Exit said:

    A question I would like to see answered is would the cop have pulled this guy over with the busted tail light if he knew the driver was white? That would answer many of the racial questions being asked. Obviously, there's no way that will ever be answered honestly, IMO.

    I still haven't learned why they were almost 2 blocks away from the car when the shooting occured. I've heard unconfirmed reports that Scott had a warrant out on him and he took off.

    I just in general asked earlier - does the police not run anymore? I guess I wasn't paying attention - apparently this cop did chase the man. I wonder why he didn't just continue to chase him? Wouldn't the man already have been weak and slow anyway if he had been tazered?
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    edited April 2015
    FoxyRedLa said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    A question I would like to see answered is would the cop have pulled this guy over with the busted tail light if he knew the driver was white? That would answer many of the racial questions being asked. Obviously, there's no way that will ever be answered honestly, IMO.

    I still haven't learned why they were almost 2 blocks away from the car when the shooting occured. I've heard unconfirmed reports that Scott had a warrant out on him and he took off.

    I just in general asked earlier - does the police not run anymore? I guess I wasn't paying attention - apparently this cop did chase the man. I wonder why he didn't just continue to chase him? Wouldn't the man already have been weak and slow anyway if he had been tazered?
    He wasn't running all that fast before he was getting shot. It looks as if he was still hurting/tired from whatever happened before the video started.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    I have heard that he was tazered earlier too. If that is the case how did he get up? Again no defense of the cops actions, but I would like to know what happened after the car was pulled over and how they got into the field.
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  • bootlegger10
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    edited April 2015
    callen said:

    Haha like the sarcasm.

    See I still think the two should be mutually exclusive. Running and resisting should not be trigger points to death.

    So the guys action of running away took all threat to officer away ironically. So your point is mute in this case. Totally mute.

    I used the sarcasm because it is absolutely ridiculous that you are arguing that resisting arrest and running from a police officer wouldn't increase your chance of bodily harm from a police officer (regardless of justified or not).

    You say that my point is moot, but my point is that not running may have increased his chances of not being killed. He ran and got killed (wrongly killed by the way). So I don't think my point is moot that running increases your chance of being harmed because in this case he did run and he was harmed.

    That we are even arguing this point is ridiculous. We both think the cop should be guilty of murder. I don't see how we both can't agree that it would make sense not to provoke or not listen to instructions from police officers either. This board is incredible sometimes. Extreme lines of thinking. Nothing in the middle.



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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited April 2015
    bootlegger10 said:

    callen said:

    Haha like the sarcasm.

    See I still think the two should be mutually exclusive. Running and resisting should not be trigger points to death.

    So the guys action of running away took all threat to officer away ironically. So your point is mute in this case. Totally mute.

    I used the sarcasm because it is absolutely ridiculous that you are arguing that resisting arrest and running from a police officer wouldn't increase your chance of bodily harm from a police officer (regardless of justified or not).

    You say that my point is moot, but my point is that not running may have increased his chances of not being killed. He ran and got killed (wrongly killed by the way). So I don't think my point is moot that running increases your chance of being harmed because in this case he did run and he was harmed.

    That we are even arguing this point is ridiculous. We both think the cop should be guilty of murder. I don't see how we both can't agree that it would make sense not to provoke or not listen to instructions from police officers either. This board is incredible sometimes. Extreme lines of thinking. Nothing in the middle.



    I agree completely that it increases chance but it shouldn't. That's my point.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
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    Civil lawsuit being prepared

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/family-walter-scott-shot-dead-preparing-lawsuit-article-1.2179020

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  • dignin
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    edited April 2015
    Walter Scott shooting: Michael Slager subject of prior excessive force complaint
    Officer accused of Tasering unarmed man in 2013 but police report said he was 'exonerated'


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/walter-scott-shooting-michael-slager-subject-of-prior-excessive-force-complaint-1.3026054

    More evidence of a systematic problem.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    dignin said:

    Walter Scott shooting: Michael Slager subject of prior excessive force complaint
    Officer accused of Tasering unarmed man in 2013 but police report said he was 'exonerated'


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/walter-scott-shooting-michael-slager-subject-of-prior-excessive-force-complaint-1.3026054

    More evidence of a systematic problem.

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  • backseatLover12
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    Last-12-Exit said:

    FoxyRedLa said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    A question I would like to see answered is would the cop have pulled this guy over with the busted tail light if he knew the driver was white? That would answer many of the racial questions being asked. Obviously, there's no way that will ever be answered honestly, IMO.

    I still haven't learned why they were almost 2 blocks away from the car when the shooting occured. I've heard unconfirmed reports that Scott had a warrant out on him and he took off.

    I just in general asked earlier - does the police not run anymore? I guess I wasn't paying attention - apparently this cop did chase the man. I wonder why he didn't just continue to chase him? Wouldn't the man already have been weak and slow anyway if he had been tazered?
    He wasn't running all that fast before he was getting shot. It looks as if he was still hurting/tired from whatever happened before the video started.
    Then the cop could have easily chased him down rather than stand there and shoot him 8 times. Did he even yell "Stop!"? I don't recall. Did he yell, "Stop or I'll shoot!"? Was there even a warning of what was about to come to the man? No, I don't believe so. If anything, that video almost looks fake, it was so hastily executed (pun). It almost doesn't look real, with the guy stumbling off and the cop resorting only to shooting the daylights out of him, then slaps handcuffs on him not caring to see if he was alive or dead.
  • hedonist
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    dignin said:

    Walter Scott shooting: Michael Slager subject of prior excessive force complaint
    Officer accused of Tasering unarmed man in 2013 but police report said he was 'exonerated'


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/walter-scott-shooting-michael-slager-subject-of-prior-excessive-force-complaint-1.3026054

    More evidence of a systematic problem.

    Yeah, read about this a bit ago - not too surprising given his actions in this case.

  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    callen said:



    See I still think the two should be mutually exclusive. Running and resisting should not be trigger points to death.

    So the guys action of running away took all threat to officer away ironically. So your point is mute in this case. Totally mute.

    This was my point throughout the Wisconsin thread. That regardless of resisting or running or even both, it does not equate "shooting to death".
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    FoxyRedLa said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    A question I would like to see answered is would the cop have pulled this guy over with the busted tail light if he knew the driver was white? That would answer many of the racial questions being asked. Obviously, there's no way that will ever be answered honestly, IMO.

    I still haven't learned why they were almost 2 blocks away from the car when the shooting occured. I've heard unconfirmed reports that Scott had a warrant out on him and he took off.

    I just in general asked earlier - does the police not run anymore? I guess I wasn't paying attention - apparently this cop did chase the man. I wonder why he didn't just continue to chase him? Wouldn't the man already have been weak and slow anyway if he had been tazered?
    He wasn't running all that fast before he was getting shot. It looks as if he was still hurting/tired from whatever happened before the video started.
    Then the cop could have easily chased him down rather than stand there and shoot him 8 times. Did he even yell "Stop!"? I don't recall. Did he yell, "Stop or I'll shoot!"? Was there even a warning of what was about to come to the man? No, I don't believe so. If anything, that video almost looks fake, it was so hastily executed (pun). It almost doesn't look real, with the guy stumbling off and the cop resorting only to shooting the daylights out of him, then slaps handcuffs on him not caring to see if he was alive or dead.
    That's my point. For all we know the cop was to tired to keep chasing him and thought fuck it, I'm just gonna shoot the bastard.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    Here is some prior dashcam footage

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/walter-scott-shooting-dashcam-video-shows-him-run-away-after-traffic-stop-1.3027165
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Here is some prior dashcam footage

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/walter-scott-shooting-dashcam-video-shows-him-run-away-after-traffic-stop-1.3027165

    Eerie watching that video clip knowing what the future held in store.

    Why the decision to bolt? How can that possibly go well for a guy?

    I'm also curious as to how a cop can go from performing very professionally at the stop- especially since Scott had no registration or insurance- to a guy bent on killing someone that truly never resembled a threat of any sort?

    I think, given today's climate, it would be most prudent for all people to be very obediant and cooperative when being detained. Sort things out at the station if things begin to get out of control. I'm not saying this to give police absolute power... I'm saying this so one doesn't find themselves in a situation like some others have in recent times after a conflict of some form manifests itself.

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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Apparently this guy owed somewhere around $18,000 in child support. He had a warrant out and he knew it. So he takes off. Obviously 5 bullets to the back is not warranted.

    I think after seeing this dash cam video this incident goes from a racially motivated, police brutality incident to a cop who was doing his job and made the worst decision of his life. That's not defending him. I don't know him,MI don't know if he's a racist. He's going to sit in jail for a long time, but I think his lawyer can shoot for manslaughter instead of first degree murder.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,781
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Apparently this guy owed somewhere around $18,000 in child support. He had a warrant out and he knew it. So he takes off. Obviously 5 bullets to the back is not warranted.

    I think after seeing this dash cam video this incident goes from a racially motivated, police brutality incident to a cop who was doing his job and made the worst decision of his life. That's not defending him. I don't know him,MI don't know if he's a racist. He's going to sit in jail for a long time, but I think his lawyer can shoot for manslaughter instead of first degree murder.

    Agreed , him running from the vehicle puts a different spin on things like bootlegger10 stated if he didn't run he most likely would still be alive in jail but alive I'm sorry but he made the wrong choice , not to excuse 5 shots to the back maybe shoot at his buttocks but still why run ....
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  • rgambs
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    josevolution said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Apparently this guy owed somewhere around $18,000 in child support. He had a warrant out and he knew it. So he takes off. Obviously 5 bullets to the back is not warranted.

    I think after seeing this dash cam video this incident goes from a racially motivated, police brutality incident to a cop who was doing his job and made the worst decision of his life. That's not defending him. I don't know him,MI don't know if he's a racist. He's going to sit in jail for a long time, but I think his lawyer can shoot for manslaughter instead of first degree murder.

    Agreed , him running from the vehicle puts a different spin on things like bootlegger10 stated if he didn't run he most likely would still be alive in jail but alive I'm sorry but he made the wrong choice , not to excuse 5 shots to the back maybe shoot at his buttocks but still why run ....
    But still why shoot?...
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