Is this happening in your City too??

Whatever the inferred intent was in the OP, it can give way to constructive discussion. It usually does in this place - one of the aspects I enjoy. Not big on team X and Y...just more divisiveness.

(mentioning race doesn't make one a racist, by the way!)

Team Conservative.I like that Cal.Your on a roll lately.
But it does open up the question of what those who are not so called "team conservative" should be called? I have a few ideas myself but I'm open to input.

Hedo,thank you for recognizing that talking about the current status of race relations in this country does not make one a rascist.I for one subscribe to "if someone is an asshole,then they are an asshole.If someone is a good person then they are good people.that simple.Color has nothing to do with it.
For those liberal elitist do gooders types,(not that there's anything wrong with that) who hypocritically jump to conclusions,maybe we should hold back on the judgement a bit since you really don't know shit about the posters you assume are being rascist.

hedonist said:

Whatever the inferred intent was in the OP, it can give way to constructive discussion. It usually does in this place - one of the aspects I enjoy. Not big on team X and Y...just more divisiveness.

(mentioning race doesn't make one a racist, by the way!)

Eh many times it does though.

Yes I pulled back on this post. For civility.

callen said:

hedonist said:

Whatever the inferred intent was in the OP, it can give way to constructive discussion. It usually does in this place - one of the aspects I enjoy. Not big on team X and Y...just more divisiveness.

(mentioning race doesn't make one a racist, by the way!)

Eh many times it does though.

Yes I pulled back on this post. For civility.

Curious how what I said would elicit a response that required this delayed edit...

Anyway, simply noticing or referring to race is far from racism to me. I look more toward context and actions.

What's happening in my city is a rash of random sexual assaults. And not all by the same person. Several unrelated men seem to be going around sexually assaulting women on the street (and one in her own home in the middle of the day, but neighbors came (too late to stop a brutal rape unfortunately) and caught the guy and held him until cops arrived). This is a disturbing pattern to say the least.

Also, as an aside re how fucked up shit is, get this: I saw a poster ad on the train the other day. It was advertising not doing "honour" killings. We need commercials to try and convince people to not murder women who don't "behave" now, apparently.

PJ_Soul said:

What's happening in my city is a rash of random sexual assaults. And not all by the same person. Several unrelated men seem to be going around sexually assaulting women on the street (and one in her own home in the middle of the day, but neighbors came (too late to stop a brutal rape unfortunately) and caught the guy and held him until cops arrived). This is a disturbing pattern to say the least.

Also, as an aside re how fucked up shit is, get this: I saw a poster ad on the train the other day. It was advertising not doing "honour" killings. We need commercials to try and convince people to not murder women who don't "behave" now, apparently.

Wtf is that PJ.Honor Killings? Is that related to strict sharia law stuff or some weird fundamentalist wacko shit?

rr165892 said:

PJ_Soul said:

What's happening in my city is a rash of random sexual assaults. And not all by the same person. Several unrelated men seem to be going around sexually assaulting women on the street (and one in her own home in the middle of the day, but neighbors came (too late to stop a brutal rape unfortunately) and caught the guy and held him until cops arrived). This is a disturbing pattern to say the least.

Also, as an aside re how fucked up shit is, get this: I saw a poster ad on the train the other day. It was advertising not doing "honour" killings. We need commercials to try and convince people to not murder women who don't "behave" now, apparently.

Wtf is that PJ.Honor Killings? Is that related to strict sharia law stuff or some weird fundamentalist wacko shit?

Yeah, it's the murders (or attempted murders, whihc are more common in the end) committed by families (usually at least one male family member, sometimes more, and sometimes a female family member is in on it, usually the woman's mother-in-law apparently) when they think a family member (invariably a woman) has shamed the family by doing x, y, or z (usually related to who they love or who they might or might not have fucked). Killing them is the only way to restore honour to the family. Yes, this is practiced by some fundamentalist Sharias and other fundamentalist religious groups that place women below men (which is a big problem in the world still), but the practice isn't limited to those who practice Sharia law.... it does seem limited to Muslims and, more rarely, Sikhs, but that could just be because of the specific population in metro Vancouver. It seems to me that it's much more about disgusting views towards women than it is real religion. These men never come off as super religious guys. They come off as revolting pigs who are using religion/tradition as an excuse to be evil and dominate a woman in their life. I mean, the only difference between these kinds of killings and other murders committed by whoever (murderous joe schmoe who killed his girlfriend for cheating on him, which we all know happens pretty regularly) is that these particular scum bags drag religion into it. So isolating the religious "wackos" here doesn't seem fair at all.

Anyway, the fact that there are ads on trains trying to convince these pigs not to consider such acts is pretty fucked up IMO. I dunno, doesn't it suggest that those who created the ad think these fucks are reasonable people who would otherwise be good people? And that they really don't know any better? I take exception to that idea. It's almost like in the attempt to try and get people off the idea, it normalizes the concept, and almost admits that somehow murder justified by religion is different from murder justified by plain old evil fuckery. So that's messed up on more than one level. It brews and stirs up stereotypes that are prevalent locally (yes, there were photos of men obviously from India and the middle east on the poster, so we knew exactly who it was meant for), while making it seem like it's a lesser crime than "regular" murders all at the same time.

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

rr165892 said:

PJ_Soul said:

What's happening in my city is a rash of random sexual assaults. And not all by the same person. Several unrelated men seem to be going around sexually assaulting women on the street (and one in her own home in the middle of the day, but neighbors came (too late to stop a brutal rape unfortunately) and caught the guy and held him until cops arrived). This is a disturbing pattern to say the least.

Also, as an aside re how fucked up shit is, get this: I saw a poster ad on the train the other day. It was advertising not doing "honour" killings. We need commercials to try and convince people to not murder women who don't "behave" now, apparently.

Wtf is that PJ.Honor Killings? Is that related to strict sharia law stuff or some weird fundamentalist wacko shit?

Yeah, it's the murders (or attempted murders, whihc are more common in the end) committed by families (usually at least one male family member, sometimes more, and sometimes a female family member is in on it, usually the woman's mother-in-law apparently) when they think a family member (invariably a woman) has shamed the family by doing x, y, or z (usually related to who they love or who they might or might not have fucked). Killing them is the only way to restore honour to the family. Yes, this is practiced by some fundamentalist Sharias and other fundamentalist religious groups that place women below men (whihc is a big problem in the world still), but the practice isn't limited to those who practice Sharia law.... it does seem limited to Muslims and, more rarely, Sikhs, but that could just be because of the specific population in metro Vancouver. It seems to me that it's much more about disgusting views towards women than it is real religion. These men never come off as super religious guys. They come off as revolting pigs who are using religion/tradition as an excuse to be evil and dominate a woman in their life. I mean, the onlybdifference between these kinds of killings and other murders committed by whoever (mirderous joe schmoe who killed his girlfroend for cheating on him, which we all know happems pretty regularly) is thst these particular scum bags drag religion into it. So isolating the religious "wackos" here.doesn't seem fair at all.

Anyway, the fact that there are ads on trains trying to convince these pigs not to consider such acts is pretty fucked up IMO. I dunno, doesn't it suggest that those who created the ad think these fucks are reasonable people who would otherwise be good people? And that they really don't know asshole by better? I take exception to that idea. It's almost like in the attempt to try and get people off the idea, it normalizes the concept, and almost admits that somehow murder justified by religion is different from murder justified by plain old evil fuckery. So that's messed up on more than one level. It brews and stirs up stereotypes obviously (yes, there were photos of men obviously from India and the middle east on the poster, so we knew exactly who it was meant for), while making it seem like it's a lesser crime than "regular" murders all at the same time.

Adds for honor killings in canada? Damn, I didn't even know it was a problem up there. You'd think the media would be all over this being that they're Muslim.

You mean being that they are murdering women?

Never even knew about those, but I saw a completely different kind of ad, and I'm pretty sure it was made within BC. It was about how honour killings are against the law, like an FYI. There was a photo of a cop on it (a female cop). The point was to explain to men considering it that they should reconsider since they'll get in trouble.