Is this happening in your City too??

muskydan

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

rr165892

No.Our local media calls out race and usually shows a picture.But I'm told from my Pals who do what you do,that they are almost not wanting to do any extra inquiring of the public on random shit,because everything is being thrown back as a race issue."You only stopped me because I'm a Blue person" or "Your only hassling me because I'm green"etc....
If something goes to court,The lawyers are now using this strategy as well.This is the enviorment that is being created in today's Climate.

hedonist

As far as straight-out descriptions regarding crimes / suspects on our local news, race is typically mentioned along other identifiers such as height, weight, etc.

muskydan

rr165892 said:

No.Our local media calls out race and usually shows a picture.But I'm told from my Pals who do what you do,that they are almost not wanting to do any extra inquiring of the public on random shit,because everything is being thrown back as a race issue."You only stopped me because I'm a Blue person" or "Your only hassling me because I'm green"etc....
If something goes to court,The lawyers are now using this strategy as well.This is the enviorment that is being created in today's Climate.

interesting, same stuff has been happening here in crook country for some time now.

xhausted1

I guess you've never lived in Baton Rouge?

brianlux

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

rr165892

brianlux said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

Bri,I think Dan is touching on a new "walk on eggshells "approach with certain media outlets who want to be PC in describing suspects or people of interest so they are leaving out key identifiers like skin Color in an effort to not offend anyone based on the enviorment of current race issue in his area.The opposite is actually happening, as criminals are not being apprehended quickly because the word getting out to the public is skewed with PC bullshit by the same mammy palsy producers and news crews.

callen

Yes bigots in my city whine when they think a minority caused crime and paper doesn't mention race as they are denied their need for validation of being special.

muskydan

rr165892 said:

brianlux said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

Bri,I think Dan is touching on a new "walk on eggshells "approach with certain media outlets who want to be PC in describing suspects or people of interest so they are leaving out key identifiers like skin Color in an effort to not offend anyone based on the enviorment of current race issue in his area.The opposite is actually happening, as criminals are not being apprehended quickly because the word getting out to the public is skewed with PC bullshit by the same mammy palsy producers and news crews.

Yes, Yes, Yes to eveyone you just wrote rr....you are like my brother from another Mutha ....

Indifference71

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I haven't really noticed that. But then again, I don't watch the news in Chicago very often because it's so goddamn depressing. Shootings, robberies, rapes, etc.. And especially lately with the mayoral race. If this guy Chuy wins, I have picked a perfect time to consider moving to the suburbs.

callen

Indifference71 said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I haven't really noticed that. But then again, I don't watch the news in Chicago very often because it's so goddamn depressing. Shootings, robberies, rapes, etc.. And especially lately with the mayoral race. If this guy Chuy wins, I have picked a perfect time to consider moving to the suburbs.

Some love local news seeing all the havoc I coloreds cause. They then talk about all the guns they have and waitin on one to get on their property. They skip all the white crime but alas.....,.

Humans. Silly humans.

muskydan

brianlux said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

Yes, it is frustrating. Especially when you write a report w/ specific indentifiers from a legit victim and the media refuses to give out those specific identifiers. The General public has a right to know who to look out for and a description always starts with ethnicity.

I definately think those discussions are dishonest. Nobody will touch this issue w/ a 10 foot pole since nobody in politics want's to be categorized a racist. That's what those honest discussions will lead you too...always does. Let's just start w/ the hands up don't shoot nonsence that turned out to big a massive lie and go from there...

I woujd love for the media to report just the NEWS, that's why I only can handle watching FOX News and the sexiest news caster Ever.....Miss Megan Kelly...hubba hubba..lol

callen

muskydan said:

brianlux said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

Yes, it is frustrating. Especially when you write a report w/ specific indentifiers from a legit victim and the media refuses to give out those specific identifiers. The General public has a right to know who to look out for and a description always starts with ethnicity.

I definately think those discussions are dishonest. Nobody will touch this issue w/ a 10 foot pole since nobody in politics want's to be categorized a racist. That's what those honest discussions will lead you too...always does. Let's just start w/ the hands up don't shoot nonsence that turned out to big a massive lie and go from there...

I woujd love for the media to report just the NEWS, that's why I only can handle watching FOX News and the sexiest news caster Ever.....Miss Megan Kelly...hubba hubba..lol

Come on the reason you really brought this up is it's the latest rallying cry of the white conservative am radio crowd.

rr165892

Do people still listen to am radio?

rr165892

muskydan said:

rr165892 said:

brianlux said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

Bri,I think Dan is touching on a new "walk on eggshells "approach with certain media outlets who want to be PC in describing suspects or people of interest so they are leaving out key identifiers like skin Color in an effort to not offend anyone based on the enviorment of current race issue in his area.The opposite is actually happening, as criminals are not being apprehended quickly because the word getting out to the public is skewed with PC bullshit by the same mammy palsy producers and news crews.

Yes, Yes, Yes to eveyone you just wrote rr....you are like my brother from another Mutha ....

Common sense Dan-O.
I brought this up to a State Trooper Det buddy I work out with at the gym
.First thing out of his mouth,was Fuck that.Its beginning to not be worth the bullshit that comes along with it.We risk our lives to get shit on.You don't want to go the extra mile anymore,No good comes of it.

rr165892

callen said:

Yes bigots in my city whine when they think a minority caused crime and paper doesn't mention race as they are denied their need for validation of being special.

I think you missed the point Cal.
If your looking for community help finding a suspect,just give them all the details.Dont be affraid of racial backlash from community leaders.No rascist shit,just keep it real.If black,white,Latino,Indian makes no dif.Just report the facts.When we start to sensor the news bad things happen.

callen

rr165892 said:

callen said:

Yes bigots in my city whine when they think a minority caused crime and paper doesn't mention race as they are denied their need for validation of being special.

I think you missed the point Cal.
If your looking for community help finding a suspect,just give them all the details.Dont be affraid of racial backlash from community leaders.No rascist shit,just keep it real.If black,white,Latino,Indian makes no dif.Just report the facts.When we start to sensor the news bad things happen.

No didn't miss the point. I very much understand motivation of this thread and what drove it. Have watched this movement blossom and driven by team Conservative.

callen

rr165892 said:

Do people still listen to am radio?

Oh yes. Just incredible hate spewed. Add some religious am radio and it will entertain on long road trip. This not describing black perps is popular at the moment.

lolobugg

muskydan said:

brianlux said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

Yes, it is frustrating. Especially when you write a report w/ specific indentifiers from a legit victim and the media refuses to give out those specific identifiers. The General public has a right to know who to look out for and a description always starts with ethnicity.

I definately think those discussions are dishonest. Nobody will touch this issue w/ a 10 foot pole since nobody in politics want's to be categorized a racist. That's what those honest discussions will lead you too...always does. Let's just start w/ the hands up don't shoot nonsence that turned out to big a massive lie and go from there...

I woujd love for the media to report just the NEWS, that's why I only can handle watching FOX News and the sexiest news caster Ever.....Miss Megan Kelly...hubba hubba..lol

seriously hope that you are kidding

backseatLover12

Team Conservative have pretty much taken over these forums.

backseatLover12

callen said:

rr165892 said:

Do people still listen to am radio?

Oh yes. Just incredible hate spewed. Add some religious am radio and it will entertain on long road trip. This not describing black perps is popular at the moment.

So they pretend that they're not racist. Like the rest of the world is fooled.

hedonist

Whatever the inferred intent was in the OP, it can give way to constructive discussion. It usually does in this place - one of the aspects I enjoy. Not big on team X and Y...just more divisiveness.

(mentioning race doesn't make one a racist, by the way!)

backseatLover12

OP, rather than merely walking on eggshells, how about just spitting out what you're trying to say?

rr165892

Team Conservative.I like that Cal.Your on a roll lately.
But it does open up the question of what those who are not so called "team conservative" should be called? I have a few ideas myself but I'm open to input.

Hedo,thank you for recognizing that talking about the current status of race relations in this country does not make one a rascist.I for one subscribe to "if someone is an asshole,then they are an asshole.If someone is a good person then they are good people.that simple.Color has nothing to do with it.
For those liberal elitist do gooders types,(not that there's anything wrong with that) who hypocritically jump to conclusions,maybe we should hold back on the judgement a bit since you really don't know shit about the posters you assume are being rascist.

rr165892

backseatLover12 said:

OP, rather than merely walking on eggshells, how about just spitting out what you're trying to say?

I thought Dan was perfectly clear with what he was saying.Dont read more into it then needed.this convo is about the media being to PC.

callen

hedonist said:

Whatever the inferred intent was in the OP, it can give way to constructive discussion. It usually does in this place - one of the aspects I enjoy. Not big on team X and Y...just more divisiveness.

(mentioning race doesn't make one a racist, by the way!)

Eh many times it does though.

Yes I pulled back on this post. For civility.

callen

rr165892 said:

backseatLover12 said:

OP, rather than merely walking on eggshells, how about just spitting out what you're trying to say?

I thought Dan was perfectly clear with what he was saying.Dont read more into it then needed.this convo is about the media being to PC.

Yeah he was being very clear. Literal no.

Now have to come up with team names. HA.

This is a debating forum. Soooo if one gets panties in a wad? Taking to seriously but it's great to have strong opinions and rebuttle. Oh ok back to a name.

Pinko liberal sympathizers?? HA.

hedonist

callen said:

hedonist said:

Whatever the inferred intent was in the OP, it can give way to constructive discussion. It usually does in this place - one of the aspects I enjoy. Not big on team X and Y...just more divisiveness.

(mentioning race doesn't make one a racist, by the way!)

Eh many times it does though.

Yes I pulled back on this post. For civility.

Curious how what I said would elicit a response that required this delayed edit...

Anyway, simply noticing or referring to race is far from racism to me. I look more toward context and actions.

rr165892

Cal,Waaaaay too many on here are un wadding panties daily.lol
It's part of what makes visiting here so fun.
I think team Whiny militant Liberals has a nice ring to it.

badbrains

lolobugg said:

muskydan said:

brianlux said:

muskydan said:

Tis the season for armed Robberies and typical hooligans with the warming weather, but is anyone else noticing the media in your town refusing to print or report the most significant factor in identifying a offender??? How are people concerned for their own and families safety supposed to keep an eye out for such individuals when the only description you get now is as general as " a young Person wearing a white-T and blue jeans" or a "male between the ages of 18-30" . Perhaps it's just the media in my Shitty, but I am just curious to see if this is going on in other big cities as well. I feel the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall needs to start with the Media....not many people trust the Police anymore so that's out.

I guess we're fairly fortunate in these parts in that the local news generally reports things pretty much straight up.

But I'm a bit confused about a few things here, muskydan.

You use the work "feel" but don't say what the feeling is- anger? Frustration?

You mention "the honest discussions about race that was all the rage last fall". By "rage" are you being facetious or implying that the discussion was dishonest? Or has the discussion in general just dropped off?

Also, I'm wondering- do you believe it is the job of the media to instigate discussion rather than simply report the news?

Yes, it is frustrating. Especially when you write a report w/ specific indentifiers from a legit victim and the media refuses to give out those specific identifiers. The General public has a right to know who to look out for and a description always starts with ethnicity.

I definately think those discussions are dishonest. Nobody will touch this issue w/ a 10 foot pole since nobody in politics want's to be categorized a racist. That's what those honest discussions will lead you too...always does. Let's just start w/ the hands up don't shoot nonsence that turned out to big a massive lie and go from there...

I woujd love for the media to report just the NEWS, that's why I only can handle watching FOX News and the sexiest news caster Ever.....Miss Megan Kelly...hubba hubba..lol

seriously hope that you are kidding

Unfortunately not

BS44325

backseatLover12 said:

Team Conservative have pretty much taken over these forums.

Ha. This says it all.